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On September 01 2015 05:20 Lhewoo wrote:
I watch alot of SC2 but i don't usually post on the forums. I have a question though. Anyone know the stats between Inno and sOs. I mean who won the most in this match up. I don't think I've ever seen Inno best sOs. And i mean in a BO3, BO5 or even BO7, not in a Kespa team match.
Thank you
//Lhewoo
sOs has won 3 out of 10 series vs Innovation according to Aligulac http://aligulac.com/inference/match/?bo=1&ps=110,48
Press Show match history to see.
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Thank you v much DJHelium.
BTW nice nick.
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On September 01 2015 05:20 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2015 05:17 stuchiu wrote:On September 01 2015 05:15 sharkie wrote:On September 01 2015 05:13 stuchiu wrote:
Uh, most Kespa teams dont give a fuck about their players individual results. The only ones I can think of that care were Samshung and Jin Air. CJ always has let herO go for his tournaments though they also banned every CJ player from qualifying for GSL for a season. They then didnt use one of the best team league players of all time in playoffs, a player so good, KT tried to drop a booth on him from beating the player of the year in 2014 and he still won. On top of my head, Bbyong also got to go to some foreign events while he never showed good results there, and they also let other players play in qualifiers for foreign tournaments (didn't Hydra and Sora go to some Redbull thingy last year?). The GSL ban thing was a one-time thing in the face of bad results, and was a decision which ultimately proved to be good.
GSL qualifier ban is retarded the good player (ones that play in proleague) are already have seeds.
The decision didn't help them and was quietly reverted.
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On September 01 2015 05:22 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2015 05:20 Diabolique wrote:On September 01 2015 05:18 HellHound wrote:On September 01 2015 05:18 Diabolique wrote:On September 01 2015 05:13 stuchiu wrote:
Uh, most Kespa teams dont give a fuck about their players individual results. The only ones I can think of that care were Samshung and Jin Air. sOs was playing so badly recently in Korea, that Jin Air coaches understood that he needs a new impulse ... look at Curious what winning Dreamhack made with him ... and it seems, their idea was correct ... It made him lose to prime? He was losing to everyone ... and playing really bad ... it seems, this is changing ... He lost to a prime player today rofl Also he made gsl ro4 HOW IS THAT BAD
The GSL RO4 was an exception ... but even when he got there, his play was not the usual brilliance ... he was just defending the aggression of the opponents ... he was not playing his brilliant mind, he was just a tired machine ... for me, the only nice play from sOs was the group where he has beaten Stork and some Terran, there he was active again ... therefore I wanted to see as many sOs games on this tournament as possible ... but MSI denied it ...
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On September 01 2015 05:25 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2015 05:22 HellHound wrote:On September 01 2015 05:20 Diabolique wrote:On September 01 2015 05:18 HellHound wrote:On September 01 2015 05:18 Diabolique wrote:On September 01 2015 05:13 stuchiu wrote:
Uh, most Kespa teams dont give a fuck about their players individual results. The only ones I can think of that care were Samshung and Jin Air. sOs was playing so badly recently in Korea, that Jin Air coaches understood that he needs a new impulse ... look at Curious what winning Dreamhack made with him ... and it seems, their idea was correct ... It made him lose to prime? He was losing to everyone ... and playing really bad ... it seems, this is changing ... He lost to a prime player today rofl Also he made gsl ro4 HOW IS THAT BAD The GSL RO4 was an exception ... but even when he got there, his play was not the usual brilliance ... he was just defending the aggression of the opponents ... he was not playing his brilliant mind, he was just a tired machine ... for me, the only nice play from sOs was the group where he has beaten Stork and some Terran, there he was active again ... therefore I wanted to see as many sOs games on this tournament as possible ... but MSI denied it ...
He made that ro4 and won DH both on the back of his monstrous ZvZ
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On September 01 2015 05:20 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2015 05:17 stuchiu wrote:On September 01 2015 05:15 sharkie wrote:On September 01 2015 05:13 stuchiu wrote:
Uh, most Kespa teams dont give a fuck about their players individual results. The only ones I can think of that care were Samshung and Jin Air. CJ always has let herO go for his tournaments though they also banned every CJ player from qualifying for GSL for a season. They then didnt use one of the best team league players of all time in playoffs, a player so good, KT tried to drop a booth on him from beating the player of the year in 2014 and he still won. On top of my head, Bbyong also got to go to some foreign events while he never showed good results there, and they also let other players play in qualifiers for foreign tournaments (didn't Hydra and Sora go to some Redbull thingy last year?). The GSL ban thing was a one-time thing in the face of bad results, and was a decision which ultimately proved to be good.
I dont think anyone can conclusively say that banning their players from qualifying actually helped anyone since their two star players were already in Code S (Bbyong/herO).
Compare that to teams with weaker lineups like MVP (pre-Choya), MVP post Choya, Khan now. They all had much weaker rosters, but still performed very well without sacrificing their players individual chances.
As for IEM, I think every Korean team lets their players travel if they pass the IEM Quals.
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On September 01 2015 05:25 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2015 05:22 HellHound wrote:On September 01 2015 05:20 Diabolique wrote:On September 01 2015 05:18 HellHound wrote:On September 01 2015 05:18 Diabolique wrote:On September 01 2015 05:13 stuchiu wrote:
Uh, most Kespa teams dont give a fuck about their players individual results. The only ones I can think of that care were Samshung and Jin Air. sOs was playing so badly recently in Korea, that Jin Air coaches understood that he needs a new impulse ... look at Curious what winning Dreamhack made with him ... and it seems, their idea was correct ... It made him lose to prime? He was losing to everyone ... and playing really bad ... it seems, this is changing ... He lost to a prime player today rofl Also he made gsl ro4 HOW IS THAT BAD The GSL RO4 was an exception ... but even when he got there, his play was not the usual brilliance ... he was just defending the aggression of the opponents ... he was not playing his brilliant mind, he was just a tired machine ... for me, the only nice play from sOs was the group where he has beaten Stork and some Terran, there he was active again ... therefore I wanted to see as many sOs games on this tournament as possible ... but MSI denied it ...
There is a misunderstanding I meant Curious not sOs.
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sOs has always been better than Innovation
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Got home from work just in time for the finals! What's the best series/ match that's occurred this far?
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On September 01 2015 05:26 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2015 05:25 Diabolique wrote:On September 01 2015 05:22 HellHound wrote:On September 01 2015 05:20 Diabolique wrote:On September 01 2015 05:18 HellHound wrote:On September 01 2015 05:18 Diabolique wrote:On September 01 2015 05:13 stuchiu wrote:
Uh, most Kespa teams dont give a fuck about their players individual results. The only ones I can think of that care were Samshung and Jin Air. sOs was playing so badly recently in Korea, that Jin Air coaches understood that he needs a new impulse ... look at Curious what winning Dreamhack made with him ... and it seems, their idea was correct ... It made him lose to prime? He was losing to everyone ... and playing really bad ... it seems, this is changing ... He lost to a prime player today rofl Also he made gsl ro4 HOW IS THAT BAD The GSL RO4 was an exception ... but even when he got there, his play was not the usual brilliance ... he was just defending the aggression of the opponents ... he was not playing his brilliant mind, he was just a tired machine ... for me, the only nice play from sOs was the group where he has beaten Stork and some Terran, there he was active again ... therefore I wanted to see as many sOs games on this tournament as possible ... but MSI denied it ... He made that ro4 and won DH both on the back of his monstrous ZvZ
I think we all forgot sOs made the ro4 :D
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On September 01 2015 05:23 Lhewoo wrote:
Thank you v much DJHelium.
BTW nice nick.
Np and thanks! Aligulac is a great site, I use it a ton for stuff like that :p
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On September 01 2015 05:26 swag_bro wrote:
sOs has always been better than Innovation
Was hoping for blizzcon hype
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On September 01 2015 05:27 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Got home from work just in time for the finals! What's the best series/ match that's occurred this far?
Only watched the semifinals but they weren't the best. Some cool stuff but mostly cheese
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On September 01 2015 05:27 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Got home from work just in time for the finals! What's the best series/ match that's occurred this far?
viOlet vs Jaedong game 2 in the group stage
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On September 01 2015 05:26 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2015 05:25 Diabolique wrote:On September 01 2015 05:22 HellHound wrote:On September 01 2015 05:20 Diabolique wrote:On September 01 2015 05:18 HellHound wrote:On September 01 2015 05:18 Diabolique wrote:On September 01 2015 05:13 stuchiu wrote:
Uh, most Kespa teams dont give a fuck about their players individual results. The only ones I can think of that care were Samshung and Jin Air. sOs was playing so badly recently in Korea, that Jin Air coaches understood that he needs a new impulse ... look at Curious what winning Dreamhack made with him ... and it seems, their idea was correct ... It made him lose to prime? He was losing to everyone ... and playing really bad ... it seems, this is changing ... He lost to a prime player today rofl Also he made gsl ro4 HOW IS THAT BAD The GSL RO4 was an exception ... but even when he got there, his play was not the usual brilliance ... he was just defending the aggression of the opponents ... he was not playing his brilliant mind, he was just a tired machine ... for me, the only nice play from sOs was the group where he has beaten Stork and some Terran, there he was active again ... therefore I wanted to see as many sOs games on this tournament as possible ... but MSI denied it ... He made that ro4 and won DH both on the back of his monstrous ZvZ
I meant sOs
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How terribly conventional of sOs
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PartinG and Rain refining 3gate forge 3rd into +2 blink for so long only to have it called "the European style" by Rotterdam :[
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On September 01 2015 05:29 Ej_ wrote:
PartinG and Rain refining 3gate forge 3rd into +2 blink for so long only to have it called "the European style" by Rotterdam :[
Polt is american.
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On September 01 2015 05:29 Ej_ wrote:
PartinG and Rain refining 3gate forge 3rd into +2 blink for so long only to have it called "the European style" by Rotterdam :[
to be fair it's often called "french pvz"
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On September 01 2015 05:31 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2015 05:29 Ej_ wrote:
PartinG and Rain refining 3gate forge 3rd into +2 blink for so long only to have it called "the European style" by Rotterdam :[ to be fair it's often called "french pvz"
that's because they don't know any other build
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