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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-31 20:23:17
August 31 2015 20:22 GMT
#981
On September 01 2015 05:20 Lhewoo wrote:
I watch alot of SC2 but i don't usually post on the forums. I have a question though. Anyone know the stats between Inno and sOs. I mean who won the most in this match up. I don't think I've ever seen Inno best sOs. And i mean in a BO3, BO5 or even BO7, not in a Kespa team match.

Thank you
//Lhewoo


sOs has won 3 out of 10 series vs Innovation according to Aligulac http://aligulac.com/inference/match/?bo=1&ps=110,48

Press Show match history to see.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Lhewoo
Profile Joined November 2014
7 Posts
August 31 2015 20:23 GMT
#982
Thank you v much DJHelium.
BTW nice nick.
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
August 31 2015 20:24 GMT
#983
On September 01 2015 05:20 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:15 sharkie wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:13 stuchiu wrote:
Uh, most Kespa teams dont give a fuck about their players individual results. The only ones I can think of that care were Samshung and Jin Air.


CJ always has let herO go for his tournaments though


they also banned every CJ player from qualifying for GSL for a season.

They then didnt use one of the best team league players of all time in playoffs, a player so good, KT tried to drop a booth on him from beating the player of the year in 2014 and he still won.

On top of my head, Bbyong also got to go to some foreign events while he never showed good results there, and they also let other players play in qualifiers for foreign tournaments (didn't Hydra and Sora go to some Redbull thingy last year?). The GSL ban thing was a one-time thing in the face of bad results, and was a decision which ultimately proved to be good.

GSL qualifier ban is retarded the good player (ones that play in proleague) are already have seeds.
The decision didn't help them and was quietly reverted.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
August 31 2015 20:25 GMT
#984
On September 01 2015 05:22 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 05:20 Diabolique wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:18 HellHound wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:18 Diabolique wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:13 stuchiu wrote:
Uh, most Kespa teams dont give a fuck about their players individual results. The only ones I can think of that care were Samshung and Jin Air.

sOs was playing so badly recently in Korea, that Jin Air coaches understood that he needs a new impulse ... look at Curious what winning Dreamhack made with him ... and it seems, their idea was correct ...

It made him lose to prime?

He was losing to everyone ... and playing really bad ... it seems, this is changing ...

He lost to a prime player today rofl
Also he made gsl ro4 HOW IS THAT BAD

The GSL RO4 was an exception ... but even when he got there, his play was not the usual brilliance ... he was just defending the aggression of the opponents ... he was not playing his brilliant mind, he was just a tired machine ... for me, the only nice play from sOs was the group where he has beaten Stork and some Terran, there he was active again ... therefore I wanted to see as many sOs games on this tournament as possible ... but MSI denied it ...
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 31 2015 20:26 GMT
#985
On September 01 2015 05:25 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 05:22 HellHound wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:20 Diabolique wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:18 HellHound wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:18 Diabolique wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:13 stuchiu wrote:
Uh, most Kespa teams dont give a fuck about their players individual results. The only ones I can think of that care were Samshung and Jin Air.

sOs was playing so badly recently in Korea, that Jin Air coaches understood that he needs a new impulse ... look at Curious what winning Dreamhack made with him ... and it seems, their idea was correct ...

It made him lose to prime?

He was losing to everyone ... and playing really bad ... it seems, this is changing ...

He lost to a prime player today rofl
Also he made gsl ro4 HOW IS THAT BAD

The GSL RO4 was an exception ... but even when he got there, his play was not the usual brilliance ... he was just defending the aggression of the opponents ... he was not playing his brilliant mind, he was just a tired machine ... for me, the only nice play from sOs was the group where he has beaten Stork and some Terran, there he was active again ... therefore I wanted to see as many sOs games on this tournament as possible ... but MSI denied it ...

He made that ro4 and won DH both on the back of his monstrous ZvZ
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 31 2015 20:26 GMT
#986
On September 01 2015 05:20 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:15 sharkie wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:13 stuchiu wrote:
Uh, most Kespa teams dont give a fuck about their players individual results. The only ones I can think of that care were Samshung and Jin Air.


CJ always has let herO go for his tournaments though


they also banned every CJ player from qualifying for GSL for a season.

They then didnt use one of the best team league players of all time in playoffs, a player so good, KT tried to drop a booth on him from beating the player of the year in 2014 and he still won.

On top of my head, Bbyong also got to go to some foreign events while he never showed good results there, and they also let other players play in qualifiers for foreign tournaments (didn't Hydra and Sora go to some Redbull thingy last year?). The GSL ban thing was a one-time thing in the face of bad results, and was a decision which ultimately proved to be good.


I dont think anyone can conclusively say that banning their players from qualifying actually helped anyone since their two star players were already in Code S (Bbyong/herO).

Compare that to teams with weaker lineups like MVP (pre-Choya), MVP post Choya, Khan now. They all had much weaker rosters, but still performed very well without sacrificing their players individual chances.

As for IEM, I think every Korean team lets their players travel if they pass the IEM Quals.
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HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
August 31 2015 20:26 GMT
#987
On September 01 2015 05:25 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 05:22 HellHound wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:20 Diabolique wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:18 HellHound wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:18 Diabolique wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:13 stuchiu wrote:
Uh, most Kespa teams dont give a fuck about their players individual results. The only ones I can think of that care were Samshung and Jin Air.

sOs was playing so badly recently in Korea, that Jin Air coaches understood that he needs a new impulse ... look at Curious what winning Dreamhack made with him ... and it seems, their idea was correct ...

It made him lose to prime?

He was losing to everyone ... and playing really bad ... it seems, this is changing ...

He lost to a prime player today rofl
Also he made gsl ro4 HOW IS THAT BAD

The GSL RO4 was an exception ... but even when he got there, his play was not the usual brilliance ... he was just defending the aggression of the opponents ... he was not playing his brilliant mind, he was just a tired machine ... for me, the only nice play from sOs was the group where he has beaten Stork and some Terran, there he was active again ... therefore I wanted to see as many sOs games on this tournament as possible ... but MSI denied it ...

There is a misunderstanding I meant Curious not sOs.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
swag_bro
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
Japan782 Posts
August 31 2015 20:26 GMT
#988
sOs has always been better than Innovation
They hate us 'cause they ain't us.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46669 Posts
August 31 2015 20:27 GMT
#989
Got home from work just in time for the finals! What's the best series/ match that's occurred this far?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
August 31 2015 20:27 GMT
#990
On September 01 2015 05:26 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 05:25 Diabolique wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:22 HellHound wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:20 Diabolique wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:18 HellHound wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:18 Diabolique wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:13 stuchiu wrote:
Uh, most Kespa teams dont give a fuck about their players individual results. The only ones I can think of that care were Samshung and Jin Air.

sOs was playing so badly recently in Korea, that Jin Air coaches understood that he needs a new impulse ... look at Curious what winning Dreamhack made with him ... and it seems, their idea was correct ...

It made him lose to prime?

He was losing to everyone ... and playing really bad ... it seems, this is changing ...

He lost to a prime player today rofl
Also he made gsl ro4 HOW IS THAT BAD

The GSL RO4 was an exception ... but even when he got there, his play was not the usual brilliance ... he was just defending the aggression of the opponents ... he was not playing his brilliant mind, he was just a tired machine ... for me, the only nice play from sOs was the group where he has beaten Stork and some Terran, there he was active again ... therefore I wanted to see as many sOs games on this tournament as possible ... but MSI denied it ...

He made that ro4 and won DH both on the back of his monstrous ZvZ

I think we all forgot sOs made the ro4 :D
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 31 2015 20:27 GMT
#991
On September 01 2015 05:23 Lhewoo wrote:
Thank you v much DJHelium.
BTW nice nick.


Np and thanks! Aligulac is a great site, I use it a ton for stuff like that :p
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
August 31 2015 20:27 GMT
#992
On September 01 2015 05:26 swag_bro wrote:
sOs has always been better than Innovation

Was hoping for blizzcon hype
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 31 2015 20:28 GMT
#993
On September 01 2015 05:27 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Got home from work just in time for the finals! What's the best series/ match that's occurred this far?


Only watched the semifinals but they weren't the best. Some cool stuff but mostly cheese
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 31 2015 20:29 GMT
#994
On September 01 2015 05:27 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Got home from work just in time for the finals! What's the best series/ match that's occurred this far?

viOlet vs Jaedong game 2 in the group stage
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
August 31 2015 20:29 GMT
#995
On September 01 2015 05:26 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 05:25 Diabolique wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:22 HellHound wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:20 Diabolique wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:18 HellHound wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:18 Diabolique wrote:
On September 01 2015 05:13 stuchiu wrote:
Uh, most Kespa teams dont give a fuck about their players individual results. The only ones I can think of that care were Samshung and Jin Air.

sOs was playing so badly recently in Korea, that Jin Air coaches understood that he needs a new impulse ... look at Curious what winning Dreamhack made with him ... and it seems, their idea was correct ...

It made him lose to prime?

He was losing to everyone ... and playing really bad ... it seems, this is changing ...

He lost to a prime player today rofl
Also he made gsl ro4 HOW IS THAT BAD

The GSL RO4 was an exception ... but even when he got there, his play was not the usual brilliance ... he was just defending the aggression of the opponents ... he was not playing his brilliant mind, he was just a tired machine ... for me, the only nice play from sOs was the group where he has beaten Stork and some Terran, there he was active again ... therefore I wanted to see as many sOs games on this tournament as possible ... but MSI denied it ...

He made that ro4 and won DH both on the back of his monstrous ZvZ

I meant sOs
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
August 31 2015 20:29 GMT
#996
How terribly conventional of sOs
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 31 2015 20:29 GMT
#997
PartinG and Rain refining 3gate forge 3rd into +2 blink for so long only to have it called "the European style" by Rotterdam :[
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
August 31 2015 20:30 GMT
#998
On September 01 2015 05:29 Ej_ wrote:
PartinG and Rain refining 3gate forge 3rd into +2 blink for so long only to have it called "the European style" by Rotterdam :[

Polt is american.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
August 31 2015 20:31 GMT
#999
On September 01 2015 05:29 Ej_ wrote:
PartinG and Rain refining 3gate forge 3rd into +2 blink for so long only to have it called "the European style" by Rotterdam :[


to be fair it's often called "french pvz"
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 31 2015 20:32 GMT
#1000
On September 01 2015 05:31 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 05:29 Ej_ wrote:
PartinG and Rain refining 3gate forge 3rd into +2 blink for so long only to have it called "the European style" by Rotterdam :[


to be fair it's often called "french pvz"

that's because they don't know any other build
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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