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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
This was the most obvious finals score
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On June 28 2015 17:33 Psychonian wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 17:31 Havik_ wrote:Rain! Yes! I've been out of the scene for a while, but I love seeing Protoss players I remember from a little while back still kicking butt! I remember Rain becoming my favorite player to watch. Good for him! I'm kinda sad this thread is only 25 pages though. What happened to the massive amounts of hype for a GSL final like back in the day  240p for anyone not willing to shell out $8 happened
But it's the most prestigious 240p around !
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Wow, Rain has a 20-6 Ratio in GSL, boasting a 76.9 (77%) winrate, that is incredible
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On June 28 2015 18:02 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 17:42 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 17:40 Seeker wrote:On June 28 2015 17:31 Havik_ wrote:Rain! Yes! I've been out of the scene for a while, but I love seeing Protoss players I remember from a little while back still kicking butt! I remember Rain becoming my favorite player to watch. Good for him! I'm kinda sad this thread is only 25 pages though. What happened to the massive amounts of hype for a GSL final like back in the day Thread came up AFTER the finals had started. There was no hype generated whatsoever. Also, the games were not that great apart from game one. And there's also the fact that I don't think people were really all that psyched about Rain vs ByuL. And it was pretty short so naturally the thread won't be that long. Eh, Inca vs Nestea was a 4-0 and that reached well over 200 pages. Granted, that was after the thread was up for 4 days but I'd be quite surprised to see this thread even reach 35 pages in the next week. I'm not one those "lol ded gaem" people but it's pretty clear to me that competitive SC2 is well into its waning years. I doubt LotV will be able to substantially revive interest in the game but I would love to be wrong.
InCa vs NesTea was the most ludicrous thing the world had ever seen. This was one sided, one player was clearly superior to the other and it wasn't very good or fun in the InCa way. The season 1 finals reached over 120 pages by the way as one of the best GSL finals in ages.
The S2SL finals had the same score as this and twice the pages just a week ago, but it was far more enjoyable than this. So series length and series quality influence LR thread size.
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On June 28 2015 18:13 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 18:02 HolyArrow wrote:On June 28 2015 17:42 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 17:40 Seeker wrote:On June 28 2015 17:31 Havik_ wrote:Rain! Yes! I've been out of the scene for a while, but I love seeing Protoss players I remember from a little while back still kicking butt! I remember Rain becoming my favorite player to watch. Good for him! I'm kinda sad this thread is only 25 pages though. What happened to the massive amounts of hype for a GSL final like back in the day Thread came up AFTER the finals had started. There was no hype generated whatsoever. Also, the games were not that great apart from game one. And there's also the fact that I don't think people were really all that psyched about Rain vs ByuL. And it was pretty short so naturally the thread won't be that long. Eh, Inca vs Nestea was a 4-0 and that reached well over 200 pages. Granted, that was after the thread was up for 4 days but I'd be quite surprised to see this thread even reach 35 pages in the next week. I'm not one those "lol ded gaem" people but it's pretty clear to me that competitive SC2 is well into its waning years. I doubt LotV will be able to substantially revive interest in the game but I would love to be wrong. InCa vs NesTea was the most ludicrous thing the world had ever seen. This was one sided, one player was clearly superior to the other and it wasn't very good or fun in the InCa way. The season 1 finals reached over 120 pages by the way as one of the best GSL finals in ages. The S2SL finals had the same score as this and twice the pages just a week ago, but it was far more enjoyable than this. So series length and series quality influence LR thread size.
Stream quality, casters quality, schedule (both day and hour) influence the size of LR threads too. [e : as well as player hype ofc, but I'd say Rain vs ByuL was about as hype as Dream vs Classic, perhaps even more hype]
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Yea, I'm not getting up at 8am on a sunday to watch a blurry stream. Especially on a weekend that's filled to the brim with high level Starcraft.
Glad to see Rain won though.
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Dammit i woke up late and lost everything why tha fuck 3PM KST?? This almost the inverse from where i live.
Anyway it's always nice to see a ex KeSPA player winning to read the fanboys tears coming up with excuses 
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On June 28 2015 18:16 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 18:13 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 18:02 HolyArrow wrote:On June 28 2015 17:42 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 17:40 Seeker wrote:On June 28 2015 17:31 Havik_ wrote:Rain! Yes! I've been out of the scene for a while, but I love seeing Protoss players I remember from a little while back still kicking butt! I remember Rain becoming my favorite player to watch. Good for him! I'm kinda sad this thread is only 25 pages though. What happened to the massive amounts of hype for a GSL final like back in the day Thread came up AFTER the finals had started. There was no hype generated whatsoever. Also, the games were not that great apart from game one. And there's also the fact that I don't think people were really all that psyched about Rain vs ByuL. And it was pretty short so naturally the thread won't be that long. Eh, Inca vs Nestea was a 4-0 and that reached well over 200 pages. Granted, that was after the thread was up for 4 days but I'd be quite surprised to see this thread even reach 35 pages in the next week. I'm not one those "lol ded gaem" people but it's pretty clear to me that competitive SC2 is well into its waning years. I doubt LotV will be able to substantially revive interest in the game but I would love to be wrong. InCa vs NesTea was the most ludicrous thing the world had ever seen. This was one sided, one player was clearly superior to the other and it wasn't very good or fun in the InCa way. The season 1 finals reached over 120 pages by the way as one of the best GSL finals in ages. The S2SL finals had the same score as this and twice the pages just a week ago, but it was far more enjoyable than this. So series length and series quality influence LR thread size. Stream quality, casters quality, schedule (both day and hour) influence the size of LR threads too. [e : as well as player hype ofc, but I'd say Rain vs ByuL was about as hype as Dream vs Classic, perhaps even more hype]
Ok so Havik_ said he has been out for a while and sad to see only 25pages, I can just assume he remembers the days better when sc2 was peaking when he says "back in the day". Now I dont know how new you kids you are to the scene, but AFAIK since the GSL march 2011 thread got 350 pages, every single GSL final got atleast 200pages with average being around 300, until late 2012. You cant really compare the difference with those points.
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On June 28 2015 18:33 NasusAndDraven wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 18:16 OtherWorld wrote:On June 28 2015 18:13 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 18:02 HolyArrow wrote:On June 28 2015 17:42 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 17:40 Seeker wrote:On June 28 2015 17:31 Havik_ wrote:Rain! Yes! I've been out of the scene for a while, but I love seeing Protoss players I remember from a little while back still kicking butt! I remember Rain becoming my favorite player to watch. Good for him! I'm kinda sad this thread is only 25 pages though. What happened to the massive amounts of hype for a GSL final like back in the day Thread came up AFTER the finals had started. There was no hype generated whatsoever. Also, the games were not that great apart from game one. And there's also the fact that I don't think people were really all that psyched about Rain vs ByuL. And it was pretty short so naturally the thread won't be that long. Eh, Inca vs Nestea was a 4-0 and that reached well over 200 pages. Granted, that was after the thread was up for 4 days but I'd be quite surprised to see this thread even reach 35 pages in the next week. I'm not one those "lol ded gaem" people but it's pretty clear to me that competitive SC2 is well into its waning years. I doubt LotV will be able to substantially revive interest in the game but I would love to be wrong. InCa vs NesTea was the most ludicrous thing the world had ever seen. This was one sided, one player was clearly superior to the other and it wasn't very good or fun in the InCa way. The season 1 finals reached over 120 pages by the way as one of the best GSL finals in ages. The S2SL finals had the same score as this and twice the pages just a week ago, but it was far more enjoyable than this. So series length and series quality influence LR thread size. Stream quality, casters quality, schedule (both day and hour) influence the size of LR threads too. [e : as well as player hype ofc, but I'd say Rain vs ByuL was about as hype as Dream vs Classic, perhaps even more hype] Ok so Havik_ said he has been out for a while and sad to see only 25pages, I can just assume he remembers the days better when sc2 was peaking when he says "back in the day". Now I dont know how new you kids you are to the scene, but AFAIK since the GSL march 2011 thread got 350 pages, every single GSL final got atleast 200pages with average being around 300, until late 2012. You cant really compare the difference with those points.
Well I kinda fail to see your point. I dunno exactly when did WCS finish yesterday, but I'd guess it was between 1 or 2 AM CEST, which means that this final was only 6 to 7 hours later. Since due to the timezones I'd guess most of the foreign viewers today were Europeans, that kinda explains less foreign viewers, and even more so less people in the LR. To that, add shit stream quality, apparently bad games (didn't see them), not a lot of hype (Rain and ByuL aren't PartinG and Life in the public's eyes), shit coverage by TL (preview up 4 hours before... LR thread created after the games started... No visible countdown on the banner or something...), bad exposure due to WCS being the same weekend...
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On June 28 2015 18:43 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 18:33 NasusAndDraven wrote:On June 28 2015 18:16 OtherWorld wrote:On June 28 2015 18:13 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 18:02 HolyArrow wrote:On June 28 2015 17:42 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 17:40 Seeker wrote:On June 28 2015 17:31 Havik_ wrote:Rain! Yes! I've been out of the scene for a while, but I love seeing Protoss players I remember from a little while back still kicking butt! I remember Rain becoming my favorite player to watch. Good for him! I'm kinda sad this thread is only 25 pages though. What happened to the massive amounts of hype for a GSL final like back in the day Thread came up AFTER the finals had started. There was no hype generated whatsoever. Also, the games were not that great apart from game one. And there's also the fact that I don't think people were really all that psyched about Rain vs ByuL. And it was pretty short so naturally the thread won't be that long. Eh, Inca vs Nestea was a 4-0 and that reached well over 200 pages. Granted, that was after the thread was up for 4 days but I'd be quite surprised to see this thread even reach 35 pages in the next week. I'm not one those "lol ded gaem" people but it's pretty clear to me that competitive SC2 is well into its waning years. I doubt LotV will be able to substantially revive interest in the game but I would love to be wrong. InCa vs NesTea was the most ludicrous thing the world had ever seen. This was one sided, one player was clearly superior to the other and it wasn't very good or fun in the InCa way. The season 1 finals reached over 120 pages by the way as one of the best GSL finals in ages. The S2SL finals had the same score as this and twice the pages just a week ago, but it was far more enjoyable than this. So series length and series quality influence LR thread size. Stream quality, casters quality, schedule (both day and hour) influence the size of LR threads too. [e : as well as player hype ofc, but I'd say Rain vs ByuL was about as hype as Dream vs Classic, perhaps even more hype] Ok so Havik_ said he has been out for a while and sad to see only 25pages, I can just assume he remembers the days better when sc2 was peaking when he says "back in the day". Now I dont know how new you kids you are to the scene, but AFAIK since the GSL march 2011 thread got 350 pages, every single GSL final got atleast 200pages with average being around 300, until late 2012. You cant really compare the difference with those points. Well I kinda fail to see your point. I dunno exactly when did WCS finish yesterday, but I'd guess it was between 1 or 2 AM CEST, which means that this final was only 6 to 7 hours later. Since due to the timezones I'd guess most of the foreign viewers today were Europeans, that kinda explains less foreign viewers, and even more so less people in the LR. To that, add shit stream quality, apparently bad games (didn't see them), not a lot of hype (Rain and ByuL aren't PartinG and Life in the public's eyes), shit coverage by TL (preview up 4 hours before... LR thread created after the games started... No visible countdown on the banner or something...), bad exposure due to WCS being the same weekend...
i really feel that they need to revamp the calendar. it's so hard to actually find SC2 games between all the CSGO events. maybe have some different font or highlight for the bigger events. more articles and an earlier game thread would have been great as well.
i just hope we can avoid that fatalist attitude about sc2 that is prevalent everywhere else. even if it becomes (already is) a niche esport i will continue to enjoy it as long as there are quality players.
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Gah it already ended? should have woke up earlier
Gratz to rain, happy for him and sad for ByuL.
Anyway since the day (in ro16 I think) Artosis said Rain couldn't win because he was not in the KeSPA uber training environment anymore, I knew Rain's chances were quite solid :D
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i think a big part why it didn't get that many views was that EU people had to stay up late yesterday to watch all of WCS and most of them (like me, even though i am a gsl sub) rather slept this morning than woke up at 8
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Somehow I missed this, but w/e. 4:1 and on low, so I'm not too torn up about it.
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On June 28 2015 19:18 SharkStarcraft wrote:
i think a big part why it didn't get that many views was that EU people had to stay up late yesterday to watch all of WCS and most of them (like me, even though i am a gsl sub) rather slept this morning than woke up at 8 Australia is part of Europe?
That one never gets old...
Well, I agree. But the other Users also already pointed it out: I wouldn't have turned on the stream to see some blurry something and have bad sound. And I am overall not interested in PvZ, as that was the only thing I saw all 2014 (besides PvP)
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On June 28 2015 19:38 rotta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 19:28 Rollora wrote:On June 28 2015 19:18 SharkStarcraft wrote:
i think a big part why it didn't get that many views was that EU people had to stay up late yesterday to watch all of WCS and most of them (like me, even though i am a gsl sub) rather slept this morning than woke up at 8 Australia is part of Europe? Apparently, yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2015
That led to some confusion I bet
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On June 28 2015 18:43 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 18:33 NasusAndDraven wrote:On June 28 2015 18:16 OtherWorld wrote:On June 28 2015 18:13 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 18:02 HolyArrow wrote:On June 28 2015 17:42 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 17:40 Seeker wrote:On June 28 2015 17:31 Havik_ wrote:Rain! Yes! I've been out of the scene for a while, but I love seeing Protoss players I remember from a little while back still kicking butt! I remember Rain becoming my favorite player to watch. Good for him! I'm kinda sad this thread is only 25 pages though. What happened to the massive amounts of hype for a GSL final like back in the day Thread came up AFTER the finals had started. There was no hype generated whatsoever. Also, the games were not that great apart from game one. And there's also the fact that I don't think people were really all that psyched about Rain vs ByuL. And it was pretty short so naturally the thread won't be that long. Eh, Inca vs Nestea was a 4-0 and that reached well over 200 pages. Granted, that was after the thread was up for 4 days but I'd be quite surprised to see this thread even reach 35 pages in the next week. I'm not one those "lol ded gaem" people but it's pretty clear to me that competitive SC2 is well into its waning years. I doubt LotV will be able to substantially revive interest in the game but I would love to be wrong. InCa vs NesTea was the most ludicrous thing the world had ever seen. This was one sided, one player was clearly superior to the other and it wasn't very good or fun in the InCa way. The season 1 finals reached over 120 pages by the way as one of the best GSL finals in ages. The S2SL finals had the same score as this and twice the pages just a week ago, but it was far more enjoyable than this. So series length and series quality influence LR thread size. Stream quality, casters quality, schedule (both day and hour) influence the size of LR threads too. [e : as well as player hype ofc, but I'd say Rain vs ByuL was about as hype as Dream vs Classic, perhaps even more hype] Ok so Havik_ said he has been out for a while and sad to see only 25pages, I can just assume he remembers the days better when sc2 was peaking when he says "back in the day". Now I dont know how new you kids you are to the scene, but AFAIK since the GSL march 2011 thread got 350 pages, every single GSL final got atleast 200pages with average being around 300, until late 2012. You cant really compare the difference with those points. Well I kinda fail to see your point. I dunno exactly when did WCS finish yesterday, but I'd guess it was between 1 or 2 AM CEST, which means that this final was only 6 to 7 hours later. Since due to the timezones I'd guess most of the foreign viewers today were Europeans, that kinda explains less foreign viewers, and even more so less people in the LR. To that, add shit stream quality, apparently bad games (didn't see them), not a lot of hype (Rain and ByuL aren't PartinG and Life in the public's eyes), shit coverage by TL (preview up 4 hours before... LR thread created after the games started... No visible countdown on the banner or something...), bad exposure due to WCS being the same weekend...
The number of viewers/ size of LR threads has obviously gone down. SC2 is a niche game with niche viewership. I dunno why you guys are so defensive about it. The evidence is clear as day. State of the Game hasn't been on the air in years. That should tell you what the state of the game is. GGlord winfestor killed sc2. People were banned for rightfully complaining about it in LR threads. Broodling vs broodling fights in the final WOL GSL was the absolute rock bottom. Eventually, TL realized that these people were correct, and even the writers called out how terrible it was. But it was too late by then. People complained because they cared, but blizzard didn't. Hots briefly revived the game but it had already lost massive viewership. Momentum is very important, and Sc2 lost it with a small increase to queen range. Its unfortunate, because TvZ is once again beautiful to watch. Anyway, the lack of interest in SC2 versus LOL and DOTA2 shouldn't take away one's enjoyment of the game. Hopefully sc2 still has enough interest to provide a few more years of entertainment.
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On June 28 2015 20:04 fishjie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 18:43 OtherWorld wrote:On June 28 2015 18:33 NasusAndDraven wrote:On June 28 2015 18:16 OtherWorld wrote:On June 28 2015 18:13 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 18:02 HolyArrow wrote:On June 28 2015 17:42 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 17:40 Seeker wrote:On June 28 2015 17:31 Havik_ wrote:Rain! Yes! I've been out of the scene for a while, but I love seeing Protoss players I remember from a little while back still kicking butt! I remember Rain becoming my favorite player to watch. Good for him! I'm kinda sad this thread is only 25 pages though. What happened to the massive amounts of hype for a GSL final like back in the day Thread came up AFTER the finals had started. There was no hype generated whatsoever. Also, the games were not that great apart from game one. And there's also the fact that I don't think people were really all that psyched about Rain vs ByuL. And it was pretty short so naturally the thread won't be that long. Eh, Inca vs Nestea was a 4-0 and that reached well over 200 pages. Granted, that was after the thread was up for 4 days but I'd be quite surprised to see this thread even reach 35 pages in the next week. I'm not one those "lol ded gaem" people but it's pretty clear to me that competitive SC2 is well into its waning years. I doubt LotV will be able to substantially revive interest in the game but I would love to be wrong. InCa vs NesTea was the most ludicrous thing the world had ever seen. This was one sided, one player was clearly superior to the other and it wasn't very good or fun in the InCa way. The season 1 finals reached over 120 pages by the way as one of the best GSL finals in ages. The S2SL finals had the same score as this and twice the pages just a week ago, but it was far more enjoyable than this. So series length and series quality influence LR thread size. Stream quality, casters quality, schedule (both day and hour) influence the size of LR threads too. [e : as well as player hype ofc, but I'd say Rain vs ByuL was about as hype as Dream vs Classic, perhaps even more hype] Ok so Havik_ said he has been out for a while and sad to see only 25pages, I can just assume he remembers the days better when sc2 was peaking when he says "back in the day". Now I dont know how new you kids you are to the scene, but AFAIK since the GSL march 2011 thread got 350 pages, every single GSL final got atleast 200pages with average being around 300, until late 2012. You cant really compare the difference with those points. Well I kinda fail to see your point. I dunno exactly when did WCS finish yesterday, but I'd guess it was between 1 or 2 AM CEST, which means that this final was only 6 to 7 hours later. Since due to the timezones I'd guess most of the foreign viewers today were Europeans, that kinda explains less foreign viewers, and even more so less people in the LR. To that, add shit stream quality, apparently bad games (didn't see them), not a lot of hype (Rain and ByuL aren't PartinG and Life in the public's eyes), shit coverage by TL (preview up 4 hours before... LR thread created after the games started... No visible countdown on the banner or something...), bad exposure due to WCS being the same weekend... The number of viewers/ size of LR threads has obviously gone down. SC2 is a niche game with niche viewership. I dunno why you guys are so defensive about it. The evidence is clear as day. State of the Game hasn't been on the air in years. That should tell you what the state of the game is. GGlord winfestor killed sc2. People were banned for rightfully complaining about it in LR threads. Broodling vs broodling fights in the final WOL GSL was the absolute rock bottom. Eventually, TL realized that these people were correct, and even the writers called out how terrible it was. But it was too late by then. People complained because they cared, but blizzard didn't. Hots briefly revived the game but it had already lost massive viewership. Momentum is very important, and Sc2 lost it with a small increase to queen range. Its unfortunate, because TvZ is once again beautiful to watch. Anyway, the lack of interest in SC2 versus LOL and DOTA2 shouldn't take away one's enjoyment of the game. Hopefully sc2 still has enough interest to provide a few more years of entertainment.
It never ceases to surprise me how the queen buff is the root of alk evil and the reason for everything.
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Bulgaria5962 Posts
On June 28 2015 20:12 RaFox17 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 20:04 fishjie wrote:On June 28 2015 18:43 OtherWorld wrote:On June 28 2015 18:33 NasusAndDraven wrote:On June 28 2015 18:16 OtherWorld wrote:On June 28 2015 18:13 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 18:02 HolyArrow wrote:On June 28 2015 17:42 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 17:40 Seeker wrote:On June 28 2015 17:31 Havik_ wrote:Rain! Yes! I've been out of the scene for a while, but I love seeing Protoss players I remember from a little while back still kicking butt! I remember Rain becoming my favorite player to watch. Good for him! I'm kinda sad this thread is only 25 pages though. What happened to the massive amounts of hype for a GSL final like back in the day Thread came up AFTER the finals had started. There was no hype generated whatsoever. Also, the games were not that great apart from game one. And there's also the fact that I don't think people were really all that psyched about Rain vs ByuL. And it was pretty short so naturally the thread won't be that long. Eh, Inca vs Nestea was a 4-0 and that reached well over 200 pages. Granted, that was after the thread was up for 4 days but I'd be quite surprised to see this thread even reach 35 pages in the next week. I'm not one those "lol ded gaem" people but it's pretty clear to me that competitive SC2 is well into its waning years. I doubt LotV will be able to substantially revive interest in the game but I would love to be wrong. InCa vs NesTea was the most ludicrous thing the world had ever seen. This was one sided, one player was clearly superior to the other and it wasn't very good or fun in the InCa way. The season 1 finals reached over 120 pages by the way as one of the best GSL finals in ages. The S2SL finals had the same score as this and twice the pages just a week ago, but it was far more enjoyable than this. So series length and series quality influence LR thread size. Stream quality, casters quality, schedule (both day and hour) influence the size of LR threads too. [e : as well as player hype ofc, but I'd say Rain vs ByuL was about as hype as Dream vs Classic, perhaps even more hype] Ok so Havik_ said he has been out for a while and sad to see only 25pages, I can just assume he remembers the days better when sc2 was peaking when he says "back in the day". Now I dont know how new you kids you are to the scene, but AFAIK since the GSL march 2011 thread got 350 pages, every single GSL final got atleast 200pages with average being around 300, until late 2012. You cant really compare the difference with those points. Well I kinda fail to see your point. I dunno exactly when did WCS finish yesterday, but I'd guess it was between 1 or 2 AM CEST, which means that this final was only 6 to 7 hours later. Since due to the timezones I'd guess most of the foreign viewers today were Europeans, that kinda explains less foreign viewers, and even more so less people in the LR. To that, add shit stream quality, apparently bad games (didn't see them), not a lot of hype (Rain and ByuL aren't PartinG and Life in the public's eyes), shit coverage by TL (preview up 4 hours before... LR thread created after the games started... No visible countdown on the banner or something...), bad exposure due to WCS being the same weekend... The number of viewers/ size of LR threads has obviously gone down. SC2 is a niche game with niche viewership. I dunno why you guys are so defensive about it. The evidence is clear as day. State of the Game hasn't been on the air in years. That should tell you what the state of the game is. GGlord winfestor killed sc2. People were banned for rightfully complaining about it in LR threads. Broodling vs broodling fights in the final WOL GSL was the absolute rock bottom. Eventually, TL realized that these people were correct, and even the writers called out how terrible it was. But it was too late by then. People complained because they cared, but blizzard didn't. Hots briefly revived the game but it had already lost massive viewership. Momentum is very important, and Sc2 lost it with a small increase to queen range. Its unfortunate, because TvZ is once again beautiful to watch. Anyway, the lack of interest in SC2 versus LOL and DOTA2 shouldn't take away one's enjoyment of the game. Hopefully sc2 still has enough interest to provide a few more years of entertainment. It never ceases to surprise me how the queen buff is the root of alk evil and the reason for everything. It's not like hots Introduced the swarm host, and the oracle, turned zvt into a battle of pure mechanics, gave protoss 600 all in timings with the aid of the one click defense core and to top it off made mass raven viable.
Nope all of that was due to queen patch.
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United States23455 Posts
Lame. Go away Korean individual leagues you're making me sad
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