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On June 28 2015 20:04 fishjie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 18:43 OtherWorld wrote:On June 28 2015 18:33 NasusAndDraven wrote:On June 28 2015 18:16 OtherWorld wrote:On June 28 2015 18:13 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 18:02 HolyArrow wrote:On June 28 2015 17:42 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 17:40 Seeker wrote:On June 28 2015 17:31 Havik_ wrote:Rain! Yes! I've been out of the scene for a while, but I love seeing Protoss players I remember from a little while back still kicking butt! I remember Rain becoming my favorite player to watch. Good for him! I'm kinda sad this thread is only 25 pages though. What happened to the massive amounts of hype for a GSL final like back in the day  Thread came up AFTER the finals had started. There was no hype generated whatsoever. Also, the games were not that great apart from game one. And there's also the fact that I don't think people were really all that psyched about Rain vs ByuL. And it was pretty short so naturally the thread won't be that long. Eh, Inca vs Nestea was a 4-0 and that reached well over 200 pages. Granted, that was after the thread was up for 4 days but I'd be quite surprised to see this thread even reach 35 pages in the next week. I'm not one those "lol ded gaem" people but it's pretty clear to me that competitive SC2 is well into its waning years. I doubt LotV will be able to substantially revive interest in the game but I would love to be wrong. InCa vs NesTea was the most ludicrous thing the world had ever seen. This was one sided, one player was clearly superior to the other and it wasn't very good or fun in the InCa way. The season 1 finals reached over 120 pages by the way as one of the best GSL finals in ages. The S2SL finals had the same score as this and twice the pages just a week ago, but it was far more enjoyable than this. So series length and series quality influence LR thread size. Stream quality, casters quality, schedule (both day and hour) influence the size of LR threads too. [e : as well as player hype ofc, but I'd say Rain vs ByuL was about as hype as Dream vs Classic, perhaps even more hype] Ok so Havik_ said he has been out for a while and sad to see only 25pages, I can just assume he remembers the days better when sc2 was peaking when he says "back in the day". Now I dont know how new you kids you are to the scene, but AFAIK since the GSL march 2011 thread got 350 pages, every single GSL final got atleast 200pages with average being around 300, until late 2012. You cant really compare the difference with those points. Well I kinda fail to see your point. I dunno exactly when did WCS finish yesterday, but I'd guess it was between 1 or 2 AM CEST, which means that this final was only 6 to 7 hours later. Since due to the timezones I'd guess most of the foreign viewers today were Europeans, that kinda explains less foreign viewers, and even more so less people in the LR. To that, add shit stream quality, apparently bad games (didn't see them), not a lot of hype (Rain and ByuL aren't PartinG and Life in the public's eyes), shit coverage by TL (preview up 4 hours before... LR thread created after the games started... No visible countdown on the banner or something...), bad exposure due to WCS being the same weekend... GGlord winfestor killed sc2. People were banned for rightfully complaining about it in LR threads. Broodling vs broodling fights in the final WOL GSL was the absolute rock bottom. Eventually, TL realized that these people were correct, and even the writers called out how terrible it was. But it was too late by then.
Terran can be ridic good for over a year and the game is all fine and dandy, but any kind of domination period for another race results in a dead game and the community being killed. This is basically the entire reason why I'd never trust TL to create my strategy game over Blizzard.
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Bisutopia19307 Posts
Grats rain! Now wcs time!
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On June 28 2015 20:04 fishjie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 18:43 OtherWorld wrote:On June 28 2015 18:33 NasusAndDraven wrote:On June 28 2015 18:16 OtherWorld wrote:On June 28 2015 18:13 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 18:02 HolyArrow wrote:On June 28 2015 17:42 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 17:40 Seeker wrote:On June 28 2015 17:31 Havik_ wrote:Rain! Yes! I've been out of the scene for a while, but I love seeing Protoss players I remember from a little while back still kicking butt! I remember Rain becoming my favorite player to watch. Good for him! I'm kinda sad this thread is only 25 pages though. What happened to the massive amounts of hype for a GSL final like back in the day Thread came up AFTER the finals had started. There was no hype generated whatsoever. Also, the games were not that great apart from game one. And there's also the fact that I don't think people were really all that psyched about Rain vs ByuL. And it was pretty short so naturally the thread won't be that long. Eh, Inca vs Nestea was a 4-0 and that reached well over 200 pages. Granted, that was after the thread was up for 4 days but I'd be quite surprised to see this thread even reach 35 pages in the next week. I'm not one those "lol ded gaem" people but it's pretty clear to me that competitive SC2 is well into its waning years. I doubt LotV will be able to substantially revive interest in the game but I would love to be wrong. InCa vs NesTea was the most ludicrous thing the world had ever seen. This was one sided, one player was clearly superior to the other and it wasn't very good or fun in the InCa way. The season 1 finals reached over 120 pages by the way as one of the best GSL finals in ages. The S2SL finals had the same score as this and twice the pages just a week ago, but it was far more enjoyable than this. So series length and series quality influence LR thread size. Stream quality, casters quality, schedule (both day and hour) influence the size of LR threads too. [e : as well as player hype ofc, but I'd say Rain vs ByuL was about as hype as Dream vs Classic, perhaps even more hype] Ok so Havik_ said he has been out for a while and sad to see only 25pages, I can just assume he remembers the days better when sc2 was peaking when he says "back in the day". Now I dont know how new you kids you are to the scene, but AFAIK since the GSL march 2011 thread got 350 pages, every single GSL final got atleast 200pages with average being around 300, until late 2012. You cant really compare the difference with those points. Well I kinda fail to see your point. I dunno exactly when did WCS finish yesterday, but I'd guess it was between 1 or 2 AM CEST, which means that this final was only 6 to 7 hours later. Since due to the timezones I'd guess most of the foreign viewers today were Europeans, that kinda explains less foreign viewers, and even more so less people in the LR. To that, add shit stream quality, apparently bad games (didn't see them), not a lot of hype (Rain and ByuL aren't PartinG and Life in the public's eyes), shit coverage by TL (preview up 4 hours before... LR thread created after the games started... No visible countdown on the banner or something...), bad exposure due to WCS being the same weekend... The number of viewers/ size of LR threads has obviously gone down. SC2 is a niche game with niche viewership. I dunno why you guys are so defensive about it. The evidence is clear as day. State of the Game hasn't been on the air in years. That should tell you what the state of the game is. GGlord winfestor killed sc2. People were banned for rightfully complaining about it in LR threads. Broodling vs broodling fights in the final WOL GSL was the absolute rock bottom. Eventually, TL realized that these people were correct, and even the writers called out how terrible it was. But it was too late by then. People complained because they cared, but blizzard didn't. Hots briefly revived the game but it had already lost massive viewership. Momentum is very important, and Sc2 lost it with a small increase to queen range. Its unfortunate, because TvZ is once again beautiful to watch. Anyway, the lack of interest in SC2 versus LOL and DOTA2 shouldn't take away one's enjoyment of the game. Hopefully sc2 still has enough interest to provide a few more years of entertainment.
Ofc the size of LRs have gone down. I'm just saying that 25 pages for a GSL final is not representative of the reality, which is closer to the 120 pages of PartinG vs Life
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On June 28 2015 21:02 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 20:04 fishjie wrote:On June 28 2015 18:43 OtherWorld wrote:On June 28 2015 18:33 NasusAndDraven wrote:On June 28 2015 18:16 OtherWorld wrote:On June 28 2015 18:13 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 18:02 HolyArrow wrote:On June 28 2015 17:42 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 17:40 Seeker wrote:On June 28 2015 17:31 Havik_ wrote:Rain! Yes! I've been out of the scene for a while, but I love seeing Protoss players I remember from a little while back still kicking butt! I remember Rain becoming my favorite player to watch. Good for him! I'm kinda sad this thread is only 25 pages though. What happened to the massive amounts of hype for a GSL final like back in the day Thread came up AFTER the finals had started. There was no hype generated whatsoever. Also, the games were not that great apart from game one. And there's also the fact that I don't think people were really all that psyched about Rain vs ByuL. And it was pretty short so naturally the thread won't be that long. Eh, Inca vs Nestea was a 4-0 and that reached well over 200 pages. Granted, that was after the thread was up for 4 days but I'd be quite surprised to see this thread even reach 35 pages in the next week. I'm not one those "lol ded gaem" people but it's pretty clear to me that competitive SC2 is well into its waning years. I doubt LotV will be able to substantially revive interest in the game but I would love to be wrong. InCa vs NesTea was the most ludicrous thing the world had ever seen. This was one sided, one player was clearly superior to the other and it wasn't very good or fun in the InCa way. The season 1 finals reached over 120 pages by the way as one of the best GSL finals in ages. The S2SL finals had the same score as this and twice the pages just a week ago, but it was far more enjoyable than this. So series length and series quality influence LR thread size. Stream quality, casters quality, schedule (both day and hour) influence the size of LR threads too. [e : as well as player hype ofc, but I'd say Rain vs ByuL was about as hype as Dream vs Classic, perhaps even more hype] Ok so Havik_ said he has been out for a while and sad to see only 25pages, I can just assume he remembers the days better when sc2 was peaking when he says "back in the day". Now I dont know how new you kids you are to the scene, but AFAIK since the GSL march 2011 thread got 350 pages, every single GSL final got atleast 200pages with average being around 300, until late 2012. You cant really compare the difference with those points. Well I kinda fail to see your point. I dunno exactly when did WCS finish yesterday, but I'd guess it was between 1 or 2 AM CEST, which means that this final was only 6 to 7 hours later. Since due to the timezones I'd guess most of the foreign viewers today were Europeans, that kinda explains less foreign viewers, and even more so less people in the LR. To that, add shit stream quality, apparently bad games (didn't see them), not a lot of hype (Rain and ByuL aren't PartinG and Life in the public's eyes), shit coverage by TL (preview up 4 hours before... LR thread created after the games started... No visible countdown on the banner or something...), bad exposure due to WCS being the same weekend... GGlord winfestor killed sc2. People were banned for rightfully complaining about it in LR threads. Broodling vs broodling fights in the final WOL GSL was the absolute rock bottom. Eventually, TL realized that these people were correct, and even the writers called out how terrible it was. But it was too late by then. Terran can be ridic good for over a year and the game is all fine and dandy, but any kind of domination period for another race results in a dead game and the community being killed. This is basically the entire reason why I'd never trust TL to create my strategy game over Blizzard.
lets just always refer to 2010, where T was still good because the game just came out and was inbalanced and not figured out yet, but blizzard provided patch after patch so the game changes before the meta adapts, leading to the nerfing of Terran into the ground at the end of WoL. BLord Winfestor was fun to watch every game, right?
And I hope you are not refering to 2014, which really was the year of PvPvPvP and sometimes PvZ.
Oh and not to mention Taeja, who ruined a perfect Protoss year by having his perfect tournament run. And Flash. His one tournament win had to be during the period only protosses won...
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how are people surprised this topic was dead.
pvz atm is in a really unenjoyable state where its either the zerg wins with an allin or the protoss wins (from what i've seen). im not saying imbalanced, just unenjoyable for me.
apart from that its the weekend of wcs and i was up til like 5 am my time and couldnt be arsed to wake up early for this.
and then rain and byul for me at least are not very interesting players.
these are just my opinions but im quite sure many can agree with at least in 1 of those points. parting vs life was also pvz but the matchup was more fun back in the old patch and parting and life are really micro intensive and exciting players whereas byul and rain are more slow paced.
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On June 28 2015 21:30 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 21:02 Nebuchad wrote:On June 28 2015 20:04 fishjie wrote:On June 28 2015 18:43 OtherWorld wrote:On June 28 2015 18:33 NasusAndDraven wrote:On June 28 2015 18:16 OtherWorld wrote:On June 28 2015 18:13 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 18:02 HolyArrow wrote:On June 28 2015 17:42 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 17:40 Seeker wrote:
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Thread came up AFTER the finals had started. There was no hype generated whatsoever. Also, the games were not that great apart from game one. And there's also the fact that I don't think people were really all that psyched about Rain vs ByuL. And it was pretty short so naturally the thread won't be that long. Eh, Inca vs Nestea was a 4-0 and that reached well over 200 pages. Granted, that was after the thread was up for 4 days but I'd be quite surprised to see this thread even reach 35 pages in the next week. I'm not one those "lol ded gaem" people but it's pretty clear to me that competitive SC2 is well into its waning years. I doubt LotV will be able to substantially revive interest in the game but I would love to be wrong. InCa vs NesTea was the most ludicrous thing the world had ever seen. This was one sided, one player was clearly superior to the other and it wasn't very good or fun in the InCa way. The season 1 finals reached over 120 pages by the way as one of the best GSL finals in ages. The S2SL finals had the same score as this and twice the pages just a week ago, but it was far more enjoyable than this. So series length and series quality influence LR thread size. Stream quality, casters quality, schedule (both day and hour) influence the size of LR threads too. [e : as well as player hype ofc, but I'd say Rain vs ByuL was about as hype as Dream vs Classic, perhaps even more hype] Ok so Havik_ said he has been out for a while and sad to see only 25pages, I can just assume he remembers the days better when sc2 was peaking when he says "back in the day". Now I dont know how new you kids you are to the scene, but AFAIK since the GSL march 2011 thread got 350 pages, every single GSL final got atleast 200pages with average being around 300, until late 2012. You cant really compare the difference with those points. Well I kinda fail to see your point. I dunno exactly when did WCS finish yesterday, but I'd guess it was between 1 or 2 AM CEST, which means that this final was only 6 to 7 hours later. Since due to the timezones I'd guess most of the foreign viewers today were Europeans, that kinda explains less foreign viewers, and even more so less people in the LR. To that, add shit stream quality, apparently bad games (didn't see them), not a lot of hype (Rain and ByuL aren't PartinG and Life in the public's eyes), shit coverage by TL (preview up 4 hours before... LR thread created after the games started... No visible countdown on the banner or something...), bad exposure due to WCS being the same weekend... GGlord winfestor killed sc2. People were banned for rightfully complaining about it in LR threads. Broodling vs broodling fights in the final WOL GSL was the absolute rock bottom. Eventually, TL realized that these people were correct, and even the writers called out how terrible it was. But it was too late by then. Terran can be ridic good for over a year and the game is all fine and dandy, but any kind of domination period for another race results in a dead game and the community being killed. This is basically the entire reason why I'd never trust TL to create my strategy game over Blizzard. lets just always refer to 2010, where T was still good because the game just came out and was inbalanced and not figured out yet, but blizzard provided patch after patch so the game changes before the meta adapts, leading to the nerfing of Terran into the ground at the end of WoL. BLord Winfestor was fun to watch every game, right? And I hope you are not refering to 2014, which really was the year of PvPvPvP and sometimes PvZ. Oh and not to mention Taeja, who ruined a perfect Protoss year by having his perfect tournament run. And Flash. His one tournament win had to be during the period only protosses won...
Why is it okay to refer to broodlord era and not to the periods of terran dominance?
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Huh Rain won, gz i guess.
About the topic if competetive sc2 is slowly declining: Yes it is absolutely.
You just have to watch the numbers for any sc2 tournament. The thing is: As long as there are tournaments and we as fans can enjoy the gameplay it's how it is, no need look at other games and be worried.
I have to say that my personal interest went down a lot too, i didn't watch a single korean tournament final in ages, last year i didn't miss any final i think.
Kinda hyped for wcs today though
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Hi guys, is there a way to watch the gsl finals later on and for free? Unfortunately, I missed it
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On June 28 2015 21:46 -shArk- wrote:Hi guys, is there a way to watch the gsl finals later on and for free? Unfortunately, I missed it
they should restream it some time soon
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omfg, I missed finals taking in mind that am fan of Rain, should I watch VODs of finals? 
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I know balance talk isnt allowed and I guess I understand why. Still I wonder if these pro players themselves think the game is perfectly fine, when they are truly honest. They probably(?) get shut down the same as the community though when it comes to complaining.
To me game 1 was a joke unfortunately I love the game to much to have stopped watching afterwards...
Either way Rain played perfect and Im happy for him achieving this after all this time.
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On June 28 2015 22:30 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:omfg, I missed finals taking in mind that am fan of Rain, should I watch VODs of finals?
Well the first few games were interesting, then ByuL got completly crushed.
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On June 28 2015 22:32 loko822 wrote:
I know balance talk isnt allowed and I guess I understand why. Still I wonder if these pro players themselves think the game is perfectly fine, when they are truly honest. They probably(?) get shut down the same as the community though when it comes to complaining.
To me game 1 was a joke unfortunately I love the game to much to have stopped watching afterwards...
Either way Rain played perfect and Im happy for him achieving this after all this time.
They balance whine from time to time too.
(rains' infamous terran > broodlord infestor during blink era)
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People got to stop worrying so much about the number of replies in an LR thread on a gaming forum and try to enjoy the games. Face it - LR thread activity will likely never reach the levels that they did back in 2011. Years go by, and fans move onto different interests, and only the hardcore fanbase remains.
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On June 28 2015 21:30 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 21:02 Nebuchad wrote:On June 28 2015 20:04 fishjie wrote:On June 28 2015 18:43 OtherWorld wrote:On June 28 2015 18:33 NasusAndDraven wrote:On June 28 2015 18:16 OtherWorld wrote:On June 28 2015 18:13 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 18:02 HolyArrow wrote:On June 28 2015 17:42 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 17:40 Seeker wrote:
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Thread came up AFTER the finals had started. There was no hype generated whatsoever. Also, the games were not that great apart from game one. And there's also the fact that I don't think people were really all that psyched about Rain vs ByuL. And it was pretty short so naturally the thread won't be that long. Eh, Inca vs Nestea was a 4-0 and that reached well over 200 pages. Granted, that was after the thread was up for 4 days but I'd be quite surprised to see this thread even reach 35 pages in the next week. I'm not one those "lol ded gaem" people but it's pretty clear to me that competitive SC2 is well into its waning years. I doubt LotV will be able to substantially revive interest in the game but I would love to be wrong. InCa vs NesTea was the most ludicrous thing the world had ever seen. This was one sided, one player was clearly superior to the other and it wasn't very good or fun in the InCa way. The season 1 finals reached over 120 pages by the way as one of the best GSL finals in ages. The S2SL finals had the same score as this and twice the pages just a week ago, but it was far more enjoyable than this. So series length and series quality influence LR thread size. Stream quality, casters quality, schedule (both day and hour) influence the size of LR threads too. [e : as well as player hype ofc, but I'd say Rain vs ByuL was about as hype as Dream vs Classic, perhaps even more hype] Ok so Havik_ said he has been out for a while and sad to see only 25pages, I can just assume he remembers the days better when sc2 was peaking when he says "back in the day". Now I dont know how new you kids you are to the scene, but AFAIK since the GSL march 2011 thread got 350 pages, every single GSL final got atleast 200pages with average being around 300, until late 2012. You cant really compare the difference with those points. Well I kinda fail to see your point. I dunno exactly when did WCS finish yesterday, but I'd guess it was between 1 or 2 AM CEST, which means that this final was only 6 to 7 hours later. Since due to the timezones I'd guess most of the foreign viewers today were Europeans, that kinda explains less foreign viewers, and even more so less people in the LR. To that, add shit stream quality, apparently bad games (didn't see them), not a lot of hype (Rain and ByuL aren't PartinG and Life in the public's eyes), shit coverage by TL (preview up 4 hours before... LR thread created after the games started... No visible countdown on the banner or something...), bad exposure due to WCS being the same weekend... GGlord winfestor killed sc2. People were banned for rightfully complaining about it in LR threads. Broodling vs broodling fights in the final WOL GSL was the absolute rock bottom. Eventually, TL realized that these people were correct, and even the writers called out how terrible it was. But it was too late by then. Terran can be ridic good for over a year and the game is all fine and dandy, but any kind of domination period for another race results in a dead game and the community being killed. This is basically the entire reason why I'd never trust TL to create my strategy game over Blizzard. lets just always refer to 2010, where T was still good because the game just came out and was inbalanced and not figured out yet, but blizzard provided patch after patch so the game changes before the meta adapts, leading to the nerfing of Terran into the ground at the end of WoL. BLord Winfestor was fun to watch every game, right? And I hope you are not refering to 2014, which really was the year of PvPvPvP and sometimes PvZ. Oh and not to mention Taeja, who ruined a perfect Protoss year by having his perfect tournament run. And Flash. His one tournament win had to be during the period only protosses won...
Actually...just from eyeballing it, terran had a similar numbers of premier (granted not necessarily major or minor) tournament wins and the same number of mirrors as protoss, including season three where WCS am and eu were both tvts and innovation won the gsl. (Granted, the previous season all protoss won, but there was only one pvp, and it was quite good iirc)
I'm not denying that the blink era occurred, but terran then went on to have a similar period of dominance where few protoss won premier tournaments. Actually...zerg really got the short end of the stick here.
That being said, it is unfortunate that this finsls was not as good as the previous finals...which I found a bit surprising given byul's performance this last little while, though I am happy that Rain finally won something.
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On June 28 2015 21:30 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2015 21:02 Nebuchad wrote:On June 28 2015 20:04 fishjie wrote:On June 28 2015 18:43 OtherWorld wrote:On June 28 2015 18:33 NasusAndDraven wrote:On June 28 2015 18:16 OtherWorld wrote:On June 28 2015 18:13 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 18:02 HolyArrow wrote:On June 28 2015 17:42 Elentos wrote:On June 28 2015 17:40 Seeker wrote:
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Thread came up AFTER the finals had started. There was no hype generated whatsoever. Also, the games were not that great apart from game one. And there's also the fact that I don't think people were really all that psyched about Rain vs ByuL. And it was pretty short so naturally the thread won't be that long. Eh, Inca vs Nestea was a 4-0 and that reached well over 200 pages. Granted, that was after the thread was up for 4 days but I'd be quite surprised to see this thread even reach 35 pages in the next week. I'm not one those "lol ded gaem" people but it's pretty clear to me that competitive SC2 is well into its waning years. I doubt LotV will be able to substantially revive interest in the game but I would love to be wrong. InCa vs NesTea was the most ludicrous thing the world had ever seen. This was one sided, one player was clearly superior to the other and it wasn't very good or fun in the InCa way. The season 1 finals reached over 120 pages by the way as one of the best GSL finals in ages. The S2SL finals had the same score as this and twice the pages just a week ago, but it was far more enjoyable than this. So series length and series quality influence LR thread size. Stream quality, casters quality, schedule (both day and hour) influence the size of LR threads too. [e : as well as player hype ofc, but I'd say Rain vs ByuL was about as hype as Dream vs Classic, perhaps even more hype] Ok so Havik_ said he has been out for a while and sad to see only 25pages, I can just assume he remembers the days better when sc2 was peaking when he says "back in the day". Now I dont know how new you kids you are to the scene, but AFAIK since the GSL march 2011 thread got 350 pages, every single GSL final got atleast 200pages with average being around 300, until late 2012. You cant really compare the difference with those points. Well I kinda fail to see your point. I dunno exactly when did WCS finish yesterday, but I'd guess it was between 1 or 2 AM CEST, which means that this final was only 6 to 7 hours later. Since due to the timezones I'd guess most of the foreign viewers today were Europeans, that kinda explains less foreign viewers, and even more so less people in the LR. To that, add shit stream quality, apparently bad games (didn't see them), not a lot of hype (Rain and ByuL aren't PartinG and Life in the public's eyes), shit coverage by TL (preview up 4 hours before... LR thread created after the games started... No visible countdown on the banner or something...), bad exposure due to WCS being the same weekend... GGlord winfestor killed sc2. People were banned for rightfully complaining about it in LR threads. Broodling vs broodling fights in the final WOL GSL was the absolute rock bottom. Eventually, TL realized that these people were correct, and even the writers called out how terrible it was. But it was too late by then. Terran can be ridic good for over a year and the game is all fine and dandy, but any kind of domination period for another race results in a dead game and the community being killed. This is basically the entire reason why I'd never trust TL to create my strategy game over Blizzard. lets just always refer to 2010, where T was still good because the game just came out and was inbalanced and not figured out yet, but blizzard provided patch after patch so the game changes before the meta adapts, leading to the nerfing of Terran into the ground at the end of WoL. BLord Winfestor was fun to watch every game, right? And I hope you are not refering to 2014, which really was the year of PvPvPvP and sometimes PvZ. Oh and not to mention Taeja, who ruined a perfect Protoss year by having his perfect tournament run. And Flash. His one tournament win had to be during the period only protosses won...
How could you possibly think that answers my post in any way?
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That's it, CJ Entus coaches simply SUCK at prepping their players for a Bo7. We've seen it a thousand times with herO and now we're seeing it with Byul, who was considered possibly the best zerg in the world going into this.
Getting lucky in Proleague with SkyHigh happening to face zerg on Vaani Research Station a few weeks in a row is nice and all, but seriously, get a ****ing clue about Bo7s coach Park.
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United States97276 Posts
huh. even more lopsided than I thought it would be
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Hurrah for Rain! Gotta watch the VODs when I get the chance.
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