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On May 10 2015 03:40 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:39 boxerfred wrote:
I have a dream that one day EG will be relevant again in SC2 and that they'll summon sick foreigners that can compete with koreans They literally only care about Jaedong and sort of Huk soooo lol
It's like having a cash cow on your team for marketing purposes
I'm rather mad at EG that JD is still with them that guy has potential and should play under KeSPA
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On May 10 2015 03:40 Ej_ wrote:Poll: best FPS?Quake (11) 42% UT (9) 35% some crap (6) 23% 26 total votes Your vote: best FPS? (Vote): Quake
(Vote): UT
(Vote): some crap
Some Crap, definetaly
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On May 10 2015 03:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:40 Ej_ wrote:Poll: best FPS?Quake (11) 42% UT (9) 35% some crap (6) 23% 26 total votes Your vote: best FPS? (Vote): Quake
(Vote): UT
(Vote): some crap
TF2, come at me bro
I covered it under "some crap"
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On May 10 2015 03:39 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:37 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:35 Ej_ wrote:On May 10 2015 03:34 Big J wrote:On May 10 2015 03:33 Ej_ wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 Heartland wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote:
so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo. Ehhh. then he went to Korea and lost to a marine all-in from Bogus. Great day it was. it was hellions, no? bunch of 2fac hellion allins, that sick game on whirlwind. Oh and a 2rax? 4-1, with stephano taking akilon and INnoVation giving up on 200/200 because Stephano reached BL/Infestor? wasn't there a game on Whirlwind where Bogus rallied like 4rax marine from 2 bases 2 pixels above Stephano's overlord sight and Stephano just died? 32 SCVs 6 rax MM CS all-in, the finest Platinum build ever played in modern GSL That was so sad to watch ;;
It's probably in my top 3 sc2 moments
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On May 10 2015 03:41 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:39 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On May 10 2015 03:37 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:35 Ej_ wrote:On May 10 2015 03:34 Big J wrote:On May 10 2015 03:33 Ej_ wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 Heartland wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote:
so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo. Ehhh. then he went to Korea and lost to a marine all-in from Bogus. Great day it was. it was hellions, no? bunch of 2fac hellion allins, that sick game on whirlwind. Oh and a 2rax? 4-1, with stephano taking akilon and INnoVation giving up on 200/200 because Stephano reached BL/Infestor? wasn't there a game on Whirlwind where Bogus rallied like 4rax marine from 2 bases 2 pixels above Stephano's overlord sight and Stephano just died? 32 SCVs 6 rax MM CS all-in, the finest Platinum build ever played in modern GSL That was so sad to watch ;; It's probably in my top 3 sc2 moments
it was hilarious
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On May 10 2015 03:41 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:39 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On May 10 2015 03:37 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:35 Ej_ wrote:On May 10 2015 03:34 Big J wrote:On May 10 2015 03:33 Ej_ wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 Heartland wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote:
so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo. Ehhh. then he went to Korea and lost to a marine all-in from Bogus. Great day it was. it was hellions, no? bunch of 2fac hellion allins, that sick game on whirlwind. Oh and a 2rax? 4-1, with stephano taking akilon and INnoVation giving up on 200/200 because Stephano reached BL/Infestor? wasn't there a game on Whirlwind where Bogus rallied like 4rax marine from 2 bases 2 pixels above Stephano's overlord sight and Stephano just died? 32 SCVs 6 rax MM CS all-in, the finest Platinum build ever played in modern GSL That was so sad to watch ;; It's probably in my top 3 sc2 moments
Jinro losing to 8:30 mutas is better.
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On May 10 2015 03:41 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:39 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On May 10 2015 03:37 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:35 Ej_ wrote:On May 10 2015 03:34 Big J wrote:On May 10 2015 03:33 Ej_ wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 Heartland wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote:
so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo. Ehhh. then he went to Korea and lost to a marine all-in from Bogus. Great day it was. it was hellions, no? bunch of 2fac hellion allins, that sick game on whirlwind. Oh and a 2rax? 4-1, with stephano taking akilon and INnoVation giving up on 200/200 because Stephano reached BL/Infestor? wasn't there a game on Whirlwind where Bogus rallied like 4rax marine from 2 bases 2 pixels above Stephano's overlord sight and Stephano just died? 32 SCVs 6 rax MM CS all-in, the finest Platinum build ever played in modern GSL That was so sad to watch ;; It's probably in my top 3 sc2 moments
on my list was gsl wcs korea 2013 season 1 finals
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Belgica34432 Posts
On May 10 2015 03:40 Ej_ wrote:Poll: best FPS?Quake (11) 42% UT (9) 35% some crap (6) 23% 26 total votes Your vote: best FPS? (Vote): Quake
(Vote): UT
(Vote): some crap
Star Wars Battlefront
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Stephano's smartest decision throughout his career was to never go to Korea at his peak. That way his fans will always be able to say he could have won GSL ^^
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On May 10 2015 03:39 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:38 Boucot wrote:On May 10 2015 03:37 GumBa wrote:
Stephano was very good but he was never in the tier of the best koreans. First half of 2012 he was. No I dont think Stephano could have gone to korea and done well in GSL
He could have and in a sense he did as he went 2-2 in his Blizzard Cup group. First half of 2012 was the perfect time for him to go to Korea, it was at the same time that NaNiwa did his double Ro8. The player he beat weren't unbeatable at all for Stephano. He went to Korea a year later, after the KeSPA switch and after his peak. It was too late.
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On May 10 2015 03:40 spoonmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:35 Alucen-Will- wrote:On May 10 2015 03:33 spoonmaster wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote:
so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point Honestly I feel like having good coaches really makes a big difference. I felt like your results really improved overall after your stint with Coach Park. It's also a feature shown in other e-sports like LoL and CS:GO often times good coaches coming to new teams brings out the potential in a team's roster. There are good coaches in CS:GO? I don't think so (I've played over 2k hours and watched years of cs since 1.6) From my experience the only real good coaches I know of in esports are the Korean Broodwar Coaches and Some of the newer LoL coaches (also generally Korean.) Most of the lol coaches in lcs that I've seen seem a bit immature to be honest. Well maybe the coaches in CS:GO aren't "good", but I feel that having a good coach is more than just preparing strategies. NiP has a good new coach from 3dMax's former roster and I feel their results will improve heavily over the next 2 months. I'd say that the development of the team's in-game leader is a bigger factor than coaching though. ex6istence for Titan, JW and Pronax for Fnatic are great examples of that. But just look at the Proleague teams, JAGW and CJ's coaches are both from the same SKT1 breed and have developed their teams into consistent top 4 performers. Obviously there are many more issues as to why foreigners can't compete to the levels of koreans, but I think coaching could be one of the many ways they could start to bridge the gap.
I've watched a ton of esports and I don't think any coaches really compare to the Korean BW (and now Lol) coaches.
I don't want to be rude but you can't seriously compare some of the csgo analysts or managers. They just don't take the game very seriously in relative terms
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Expedition lost....What map did gumi veto?
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Gumi confirmed fan favorite
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wtf how is UT even tying with Quake? whats wrong with you guys?
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
On May 10 2015 03:42 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:40 Ej_ wrote:Poll: best FPS?Quake (11) 42% UT (9) 35% some crap (6) 23% 26 total votes Your vote: best FPS? (Vote): Quake
(Vote): UT
(Vote): some crap
Star Wars Battlefront
Not the new one TTTTTTTTTT
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On May 10 2015 03:37 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:36 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 10 2015 03:35 Heartland wrote:On May 10 2015 03:35 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 10 2015 03:33 Heartland wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 Heartland wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:29 Liquid`Snute wrote:
so much discussion on who's the best foreigner but no discussion about how to catch up to the Korean level as a whole. we're really all missing the point The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo. Ehhh. It was. That was because the game hadn't matured yet. The later Naniwa/Scarlett/Snute accomplishments are more impressive than Mr 200/200 Roach into BL/Infestor (which isn't to say that Stephano was totally terrible) That's not counterargument. Besides, the game matured with stephano. He was both at korean skill level and innovated the game at the same time. Nah, not at all Hope I'm not talking to a Stephano anti-fan here Not really, no. I hate Stephano fans, not Stephano
I dislike Stephano but I still recognize that he was the best foreigner for a long period of time, and I think he is one of the very few foreigners (including Naniwa in GSL/ MLG legend killer!) who could actually go toe-to-toe with some of the best Koreans... and maybe Koreans were always favored, but Stephano and Naniwa were rarely automatically ruled out when they were at their peak. When Naniwa wrecked Mvp and Nestea back to back, it was really badass but it wasn't like a 99 to 1 chance it would happen.
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Okay I want Gumiho to win
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Belgica34432 Posts
On May 10 2015 03:42 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:42 Lorning wrote:On May 10 2015 03:40 Ej_ wrote:Poll: best FPS?Quake (11) 42% UT (9) 35% some crap (6) 23% 26 total votes Your vote: best FPS? (Vote): Quake
(Vote): UT
(Vote): some crap
Star Wars Battlefront Not the new one TTTTTTTTTT
The old one
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On May 10 2015 03:39 boxerfred wrote:
I have a dream that one day EG will be relevant again in SC2 and that they'll summon sick foreigners that can compete with koreans
Summon like with magic ?
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
On May 10 2015 03:41 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2015 03:41 GumBa wrote:On May 10 2015 03:39 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On May 10 2015 03:37 TheDwf wrote:On May 10 2015 03:35 Ej_ wrote:On May 10 2015 03:34 Big J wrote:On May 10 2015 03:33 Ej_ wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 Heartland wrote:On May 10 2015 03:32 royalroadweed wrote:On May 10 2015 03:30 TheDwf wrote:
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The gap will never be closed lol It was a one point with Stephano imo. Ehhh. then he went to Korea and lost to a marine all-in from Bogus. Great day it was. it was hellions, no? bunch of 2fac hellion allins, that sick game on whirlwind. Oh and a 2rax? 4-1, with stephano taking akilon and INnoVation giving up on 200/200 because Stephano reached BL/Infestor? wasn't there a game on Whirlwind where Bogus rallied like 4rax marine from 2 bases 2 pixels above Stephano's overlord sight and Stephano just died? 32 SCVs 6 rax MM CS all-in, the finest Platinum build ever played in modern GSL That was so sad to watch ;; It's probably in my top 3 sc2 moments on my list was gsl wcs korea 2013 season 1 finals
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