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lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
March 13 2015 18:22 GMT
#2561
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
March 13 2015 18:22 GMT
#2562
On March 14 2015 03:22 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:19 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:18 Nebuchad wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy

The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder).


No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me.


That's mainly because everytime a protoss gets one of his units slightly in the direction of the opponent, every caster ever goes OMG HE'S GOING ALL-IN


No, it's because of scenarios where it is 10 min mark and you see 2 bases on 1 side and 1 base on the other side and the game is still very close.


Yeah I understand that was your perception, I was trying to explain how you came to have it so wrong.


Sorry, I didn't understand.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 13 2015 18:23 GMT
#2563
On March 14 2015 03:20 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:18 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy

The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder).


No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me.

Because SCV pulls are not all-ins and abusive strategies amirite

If a strategy doesn't abuse something it generaly means it's bad.

Sssh mate, don't tell them, in the world of Terranhood anything that a P or Z does is abusive while what the T himself does is pure as crystal, purely skill-based, hard to do, and thus never abusive.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 13 2015 18:23 GMT
#2564
On March 14 2015 03:21 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:17 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:15 HellHound wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:14 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:13 HellHound wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:10 Nebuchad wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:05 imrusty269 wrote:
We're back to where we were. Terrans can't predict one out of a thousand things protoss can do.


Sorry that you got only half the players in that Ro8...

1 zerg ro8 sure win

It's a SKT Zerg though. We learned long ago that this rule doesn't apply to SKT Zergs.

When exactly ? Certainly not from soO he was never the 1 zerg in ro8

When the SKT Zerg Curse was created, because this curse is stronger than any others.

Irrelevant, Dark is originally from Slayers.

Woongjin Stars Soulkey got ruined by becoming a SKT zerg
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HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
March 13 2015 18:23 GMT
#2565
On March 14 2015 03:21 Everlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:18 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy

The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder).


No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me.

Because SCV pulls are not all-ins and abusive strategies amirite


Just the desperate move. Flash is the player that never allins, yet he still finds the need to do so when he is 1 base up in a macro game, tells the story, pretty much.

Love terran logic so much.
When protoss all ins and fails it's broken and abusive.
When terran all ins and fails it's desperate and proof that protoss is broken.
Flash tried to doom drop into 4 cannons a collosus and stalkers :D
While he was ahead in econ.
So smart and strategic Trap would never expect it.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
March 13 2015 18:24 GMT
#2566
On March 14 2015 03:23 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:20 HellHound wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:18 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy

The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder).


No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me.

Because SCV pulls are not all-ins and abusive strategies amirite

If a strategy doesn't abuse something it generaly means it's bad.

Sssh mate, don't tell them, in the world of Terranhood anything that a P or Z does is abusive while what the T himself does is pure as crystal, purely skill-based, hard to do, and thus never abusive.
I know he used complicated words so let me translate.
Terrans are dumb.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 13 2015 18:24 GMT
#2567
On March 14 2015 03:21 Everlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:18 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy

The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder).


No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me.

Because SCV pulls are not all-ins and abusive strategies amirite


Just the desperate move. Flash is the player that never allins, yet he still finds the need to do so when he is 1 base up in a macro game, tells the story, pretty much.

So when FlaSh all-ins, it's a desperate move, but when it's a Protoss, it's abusive shit?
...
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Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
March 13 2015 18:25 GMT
#2568
On March 14 2015 03:23 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:21 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:18 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy

The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder).


No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me.

Because SCV pulls are not all-ins and abusive strategies amirite


Just the desperate move. Flash is the player that never allins, yet he still finds the need to do so when he is 1 base up in a macro game, tells the story, pretty much.

Love terran logic so much.
When protoss all ins and fails it's broken and abusive.
When terran all ins and fails it's desperate and proof that protoss is broken.
Flash tried to doom drop into 4 cannons a collosus and stalkers :D
While he was ahead in econ.
So smart and strategic Trap would never expect it.


When Protoss all ins...
When Terran all ins...

yeah.. when.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
March 13 2015 18:25 GMT
#2569
On March 14 2015 03:23 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:20 HellHound wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:18 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy

The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder).


No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me.

Because SCV pulls are not all-ins and abusive strategies amirite

If a strategy doesn't abuse something it generaly means it's bad.

Sssh mate, don't tell them, in the world of Terranhood anything that a P or Z does is abusive while what the T himself does is pure as crystal, purely skill-based, hard to do, and thus never abusive.


Master race has more rights than those disgusting subraces.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 13 2015 18:25 GMT
#2570
On March 14 2015 03:23 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:21 HellHound wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:17 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:15 HellHound wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:14 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:13 HellHound wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:10 Nebuchad wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:05 imrusty269 wrote:
We're back to where we were. Terrans can't predict one out of a thousand things protoss can do.


Sorry that you got only half the players in that Ro8...

1 zerg ro8 sure win

It's a SKT Zerg though. We learned long ago that this rule doesn't apply to SKT Zergs.

When exactly ? Certainly not from soO he was never the 1 zerg in ro8

When the SKT Zerg Curse was created, because this curse is stronger than any others.

Irrelevant, Dark is originally from Slayers.

Woongjin Stars Soulkey got ruined by becoming a SKT zerg


Should have gone to JA with sOs
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12301 Posts
March 13 2015 18:26 GMT
#2571
On March 14 2015 03:22 Everlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:22 Nebuchad wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:19 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:18 Nebuchad wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy

The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder).


No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me.


That's mainly because everytime a protoss gets one of his units slightly in the direction of the opponent, every caster ever goes OMG HE'S GOING ALL-IN


No, it's because of scenarios where it is 10 min mark and you see 2 bases on 1 side and 1 base on the other side and the game is still very close.


Yeah I understand that was your perception, I was trying to explain how you came to have it so wrong.


Sorry, I didn't understand.


Well look at the third game: macro game, Flash goes for a timing, Trap defends and wins.
fourth game: Trap is on one base, there's a 5 minute death animation, he's clearly dead at the 10 minute mark.
fifth game: fake agression into macro, 3rd base, timing push.

Your reaction to the series: Trap was on one base all-ining every time and he beats macro Flash, that's so sick.

Well obviously your reaction isn't based on what happened in the actual games, so I was offering a theory as to how you came to have it.
No will to live, no wish to die
Maniak_
Profile Joined October 2010
France305 Posts
March 13 2015 18:26 GMT
#2572
On March 14 2015 03:24 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:23 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:20 HellHound wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:18 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy

The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder).


No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me.

Because SCV pulls are not all-ins and abusive strategies amirite

If a strategy doesn't abuse something it generaly means it's bad.

Sssh mate, don't tell them, in the world of Terranhood anything that a P or Z does is abusive while what the T himself does is pure as crystal, purely skill-based, hard to do, and thus never abusive.
I know he used complicated words so let me translate.
Terrans are dumb.

The strange word in the middle may still be a little hard to comprehend.
"They make psychiatrists get psychoanalyzed before they can get certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?" -- Jubal Early - Firefly
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
March 13 2015 18:26 GMT
#2573
On March 14 2015 03:25 Everlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:23 HellHound wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:21 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:18 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy

The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder).


No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me.

Because SCV pulls are not all-ins and abusive strategies amirite


Just the desperate move. Flash is the player that never allins, yet he still finds the need to do so when he is 1 base up in a macro game, tells the story, pretty much.

Love terran logic so much.
When protoss all ins and fails it's broken and abusive.
When terran all ins and fails it's desperate and proof that protoss is broken.
Flash tried to doom drop into 4 cannons a collosus and stalkers :D
While he was ahead in econ.
So smart and strategic Trap would never expect it.


When Protoss all ins...
When Terran all ins...

yeah.. when.

Oh sorry when terran does it's called pressure my bad.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
March 13 2015 18:27 GMT
#2574
On March 14 2015 03:24 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:21 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:18 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy

The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder).


No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me.

Because SCV pulls are not all-ins and abusive strategies amirite


Just the desperate move. Flash is the player that never allins, yet he still finds the need to do so when he is 1 base up in a macro game, tells the story, pretty much.

So when FlaSh all-ins, it's a desperate move, but when it's a Protoss, it's abusive shit?
...


Yes. Do we agree that in terms of allining your opponent, there are like WAY more options for Protoss then for Terran? Yes/No.
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
March 13 2015 18:27 GMT
#2575
On March 14 2015 03:26 Maniak_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:24 HellHound wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:23 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:20 HellHound wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:18 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy

The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder).


No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me.

Because SCV pulls are not all-ins and abusive strategies amirite

If a strategy doesn't abuse something it generaly means it's bad.

Sssh mate, don't tell them, in the world of Terranhood anything that a P or Z does is abusive while what the T himself does is pure as crystal, purely skill-based, hard to do, and thus never abusive.
I know he used complicated words so let me translate.
Terrans are dumb.

The strange word in the middle may still be a little hard to comprehend.
Sorry, I still need practice translating to stooped.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
March 13 2015 18:27 GMT
#2576
On March 14 2015 03:26 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:25 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:23 HellHound wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:21 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:18 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy

The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder).


No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me.

Because SCV pulls are not all-ins and abusive strategies amirite


Just the desperate move. Flash is the player that never allins, yet he still finds the need to do so when he is 1 base up in a macro game, tells the story, pretty much.

Love terran logic so much.
When protoss all ins and fails it's broken and abusive.
When terran all ins and fails it's desperate and proof that protoss is broken.
Flash tried to doom drop into 4 cannons a collosus and stalkers :D
While he was ahead in econ.
So smart and strategic Trap would never expect it.


When Protoss all ins...
When Terran all ins...

yeah.. when.

Oh sorry when terran does it's called pressure my bad.


Ok, I accept your apology.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
March 13 2015 18:27 GMT
#2577
On March 14 2015 03:25 hitthat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:23 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:20 HellHound wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:18 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy

The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder).


No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me.

Because SCV pulls are not all-ins and abusive strategies amirite

If a strategy doesn't abuse something it generaly means it's bad.

Sssh mate, don't tell them, in the world of Terranhood anything that a P or Z does is abusive while what the T himself does is pure as crystal, purely skill-based, hard to do, and thus never abusive.


Master race has more rights than those disgusting subraces.

̶P̶C̶ TMR
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
March 13 2015 18:31 GMT
#2578
On March 14 2015 03:26 Nebuchad wrote:
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On March 14 2015 03:22 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:22 Nebuchad wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:19 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:18 Nebuchad wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy

The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder).


No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me.


That's mainly because everytime a protoss gets one of his units slightly in the direction of the opponent, every caster ever goes OMG HE'S GOING ALL-IN


No, it's because of scenarios where it is 10 min mark and you see 2 bases on 1 side and 1 base on the other side and the game is still very close.


Yeah I understand that was your perception, I was trying to explain how you came to have it so wrong.


Sorry, I didn't understand.


Well look at the third game: macro game, Flash goes for a timing, Trap defends and wins.
fourth game: Trap is on one base, there's a 5 minute death animation, he's clearly dead at the 10 minute mark.
fifth game: fake agression into macro, 3rd base, timing push.

Your reaction to the series: Trap was on one base all-ining every time and he beats macro Flash, that's so sick.

Well obviously your reaction isn't based on what happened in the actual games, so I was offering a theory as to how you came to have it.


I don't buy the length of death animation as an argument. Also, I was trying to point out that Protoss seem to win tricks (I call it bullshit) rather then straight up games. I stand by this point. And I find it very offensive to certain hard-working players (Protoss players included). And then it hurts when I see similar series to this one. Sorry, just my opinion.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 13 2015 18:32 GMT
#2579
On March 14 2015 03:25 stuchiu wrote:
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On March 14 2015 03:23 Shellshock wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:21 HellHound wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:17 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:15 HellHound wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:14 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:13 HellHound wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:10 Nebuchad wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:05 imrusty269 wrote:
We're back to where we were. Terrans can't predict one out of a thousand things protoss can do.


Sorry that you got only half the players in that Ro8...

1 zerg ro8 sure win

It's a SKT Zerg though. We learned long ago that this rule doesn't apply to SKT Zergs.

When exactly ? Certainly not from soO he was never the 1 zerg in ro8

When the SKT Zerg Curse was created, because this curse is stronger than any others.

Irrelevant, Dark is originally from Slayers.

Woongjin Stars Soulkey got ruined by becoming a SKT zerg


Should have gone to JA with sOs

I would have liked that. the team would be so sick
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Maniak_
Profile Joined October 2010
France305 Posts
March 13 2015 18:32 GMT
#2580
On March 14 2015 03:27 Everlong wrote:
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On March 14 2015 03:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:21 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:18 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy

The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder).


No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me.

Because SCV pulls are not all-ins and abusive strategies amirite


Just the desperate move. Flash is the player that never allins, yet he still finds the need to do so when he is 1 base up in a macro game, tells the story, pretty much.

So when FlaSh all-ins, it's a desperate move, but when it's a Protoss, it's abusive shit?
...


Yes. Do we agree that in terms of allining your opponent, there are like WAY more options for Protoss then for Terran? Yes/No.

Yes.
Protoss has WAY more options to pressure Terran and die when it fails, while Terran can only throw away dozens of scvs and full medivacs a few times before actually managing to die.
"They make psychiatrists get psychoanalyzed before they can get certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?" -- Jubal Early - Firefly
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