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On March 14 2015 03:05 imrusty269 wrote:
We're back to where we were. Terrans can't predict one out of a thousand things protoss can do.
Says a guy whose race has 4/8 in Ro8...
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On March 14 2015 03:32 Maniak_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 03:27 Everlong wrote:On March 14 2015 03:24 OtherWorld wrote:On March 14 2015 03:21 Everlong wrote:On March 14 2015 03:18 OtherWorld wrote:On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder). No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me. Because SCV pulls are not all-ins and abusive strategies amirite Just the desperate move. Flash is the player that never allins, yet he still finds the need to do so when he is 1 base up in a macro game, tells the story, pretty much. So when FlaSh all-ins, it's a desperate move, but when it's a Protoss, it's abusive shit? ... Yes. Do we agree that in terms of allining your opponent, there are like WAY more options for Protoss then for Terran? Yes/No. Yes. Protoss has WAY more options to pressure Terran and die when it fails, while Terran can only throw away dozens of scvs and full medivacs a few times before actually managing to die.
Sugarcoating the reality doesn't make it more like you want to see it, sorry.
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Dang it, Life and Flash both gone already.
I guess I'll be rooting for Bogus from here on out.
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Are you guys seriously balance whining?
Game has nearly perfect balance right now.
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On March 14 2015 03:25 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 03:23 Shellshock wrote:On March 14 2015 03:21 HellHound wrote:On March 14 2015 03:17 OtherWorld wrote:On March 14 2015 03:15 HellHound wrote:On March 14 2015 03:14 OtherWorld wrote:On March 14 2015 03:13 HellHound wrote:On March 14 2015 03:10 Nebuchad wrote:On March 14 2015 03:05 imrusty269 wrote:
We're back to where we were. Terrans can't predict one out of a thousand things protoss can do. Sorry that you got only half the players in that Ro8... 1 zerg ro8 sure win It's a SKT Zerg though. We learned long ago that this rule doesn't apply to SKT Zergs. When exactly ? Certainly not from soO he was never the 1 zerg in ro8 When the SKT Zerg Curse was created, because this curse is stronger than any others. Irrelevant, Dark is originally from Slayers. Woongjin Stars Soulkey got ruined by becoming a SKT zerg Should have gone to JA with sOs
And Ryu Won aswell
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On March 14 2015 03:27 Everlong wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 03:24 OtherWorld wrote:On March 14 2015 03:21 Everlong wrote:On March 14 2015 03:18 OtherWorld wrote:On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder). No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me. Because SCV pulls are not all-ins and abusive strategies amirite Just the desperate move. Flash is the player that never allins, yet he still finds the need to do so when he is 1 base up in a macro game, tells the story, pretty much. So when FlaSh all-ins, it's a desperate move, but when it's a Protoss, it's abusive shit? ... Yes. Do we agree that in terms of allining your opponent, there are like WAY more options for Protoss then for Terran? Yes/No.
This discussion is pointless if we don't commonly define what we mean by "all-in" first, because if you really believe that "when a Terran "all-ins" it's called "pressure"" then we're clearly not talking about the same thing.
And since I don't have time to debate the P vs T imbalance while I'm a Zerg myself, I won't continue this discussion, and just leave this here : look at the brackets, and the results of the TvPs in particular.
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On March 14 2015 03:31 Everlong wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 03:26 Nebuchad wrote:On March 14 2015 03:22 Everlong wrote:On March 14 2015 03:22 Nebuchad wrote:On March 14 2015 03:19 Everlong wrote:On March 14 2015 03:18 Nebuchad wrote:On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder). No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me. That's mainly because everytime a protoss gets one of his units slightly in the direction of the opponent, every caster ever goes OMG HE'S GOING ALL-IN No, it's because of scenarios where it is 10 min mark and you see 2 bases on 1 side and 1 base on the other side and the game is still very close. Yeah I understand that was your perception, I was trying to explain how you came to have it so wrong. Sorry, I didn't understand. Well look at the third game: macro game, Flash goes for a timing, Trap defends and wins. fourth game: Trap is on one base, there's a 5 minute death animation, he's clearly dead at the 10 minute mark. fifth game: fake agression into macro, 3rd base, timing push. Your reaction to the series: Trap was on one base all-ining every time and he beats macro Flash, that's so sick. Well obviously your reaction isn't based on what happened in the actual games, so I was offering a theory as to how you came to have it. I don't buy the length of death animation as an argument. Also, I was trying to point out that Protoss seem to win tricks (I call it bullshit) rather then straight up games. I stand by this point. And I find it very offensive to certain hard-working players (Protoss players included). And then it hurts when I see similar series to this one. Sorry, just my opinion.
You have a definition of "straight up game" that basically means "wait until terran is strong to do anything". I can see why protosses wouldn't want to abide by it.
But more importantly, that's not what happened in this series, and you're still hurting, so there's not much we can do about it.
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Why are we complaining about protoss?
Flash threw game 1 away, and Trap played a different playstyle from his usual more macro oriented play as he said himself.
It was just a weak series with less than optimal play on both sides. No need to start saying the sky is falling lol Not every game is gonna be the inno vs life series of epicness
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I give up, you are correct.
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On March 14 2015 03:42 Everlong wrote:
I give up, you are correct.
Admiting you are wrong is very zergy.
Aim for the Manliest race award this year :D
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On March 14 2015 03:27 Everlong wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 03:24 OtherWorld wrote:On March 14 2015 03:21 Everlong wrote:On March 14 2015 03:18 OtherWorld wrote:On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder). No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me. Because SCV pulls are not all-ins and abusive strategies amirite Just the desperate move. Flash is the player that never allins, yet he still finds the need to do so when he is 1 base up in a macro game, tells the story, pretty much. So when FlaSh all-ins, it's a desperate move, but when it's a Protoss, it's abusive shit? ... Yes. Do we agree that in terms of allining your opponent, there are like WAY more options for Protoss then for Terran? Yes/No.
screw your all-in talk.terrans doesnt even need to all in to do damage to P or Z with your widow mines,hellbats bullshits
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On March 14 2015 03:07 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 03:04 CAG Husker wrote:
How can people have so much love for sOs but dislike Trap? Serious double standard here. A lot of people hate SoS too.
I actually like both of them but sOs much more 
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On March 14 2015 03:47 egrimm wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 03:07 HellHound wrote:On March 14 2015 03:04 CAG Husker wrote:
How can people have so much love for sOs but dislike Trap? Serious double standard here. A lot of people hate SoS too. I actually like both of them but sOs much more
I like players who aren't Terran and Innovation.
Except Symbol.
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On March 14 2015 03:42 Everlong wrote:
I give up, you are correct.
If this is not sarcasm, then I'm sincerely happy that you changed your views.
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On March 14 2015 03:42 ZeromuS wrote:
Why are we complaining about protoss?
Flash threw game 1 away, and Trap played a different playstyle from his usual more macro oriented play as he said himself.
It was just a weak series with less than optimal play on both sides. No need to start saying the sky is falling lol Not every game is gonna be the inno vs life series of epicness
Game 5 was pretty epic for my liking
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On March 14 2015 03:45 HellHound wrote:Admiting you are wrong is very zergy. Aim for the Manliest race award this year :D
They wont make it becouse "Terran - race of the year.All years" /i loved that thread btw.
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People like sOs more cuz he won multiple top paying championships and people like winners,
Maybe also becuz he beats fan favorites making people who hate those fan favorites (who actualy hate their fans) like him, while some of the fans of the fan favorites start to cheer for him since they hope he will do to others at some tournament finals what they did to their fan favorite.
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On March 14 2015 03:53 Megafather wrote:
People like sOs more cuz he won multiple top paying championships and people like winners,
Maybe also becuz he beats fan favorites making people who hate those fan favorites (who actualy hate their fans) like him, while some of the fans of the fan favorites start to cheer for him since they hope he will do to others at some tournament finals what they did to their fan favorite.
I hate sOs when he plays against zerg. Versus P and T i just wan´t to see P bullshit 
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I dislike sOs cause his PvZ is not as sexy as his PvT, and I like PvZ more.
Then again I'm also a huge hypocrite cause PartinG is up there in my favourites, so that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
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On March 14 2015 03:27 Everlong wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 03:24 OtherWorld wrote:On March 14 2015 03:21 Everlong wrote:On March 14 2015 03:18 OtherWorld wrote:On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder). No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me. Because SCV pulls are not all-ins and abusive strategies amirite Just the desperate move. Flash is the player that never allins, yet he still finds the need to do so when he is 1 base up in a macro game, tells the story, pretty much. So when FlaSh all-ins, it's a desperate move, but when it's a Protoss, it's abusive shit? ... Yes. Do we agree that in terms of allining your opponent, there are like WAY more options for Protoss then for Terran? Yes/No.
all the options are more or less countered the same way, so why does it even matter
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