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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
March 13 2015 19:45 GMT
#2621
On March 14 2015 04:38 Packawana wrote:
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On March 14 2015 04:37 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On March 14 2015 04:35 Packawana wrote:
I can see a situation where Maru wins NSSL, herO wins IEM, and Life wins GSL. That would be balanced, I guess.

imagine living in a world where herO won all three :D


So herO possesses Dream's body and plays Protoss in the NSSL finals, winning?

i mean a world where he made it to the finals, but sure.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37061 Posts
March 13 2015 19:54 GMT
#2622
Flash... You suck... :/
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 13 2015 19:56 GMT
#2623
Flash vs Fantasy ruined by 1 game ><
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
March 13 2015 20:04 GMT
#2624
On March 14 2015 04:56 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Flash vs Fantasy ruined by 1 game ><

To be fair, one base blink shouldn't exist anymore, no wonder Flash didn't see that coming <.<
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
March 13 2015 20:23 GMT
#2625
Tonight, Trap killed eSports...
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
March 13 2015 20:27 GMT
#2626
On March 14 2015 05:23 Yonnua wrote:
Tonight, Trap killed eSports...

No. No he didn't.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
March 13 2015 20:28 GMT
#2627
On March 14 2015 05:23 Yonnua wrote:
Tonight, Trap killed eSports...

Weird way to spell "saved"
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
March 13 2015 20:29 GMT
#2628
damn going back through the thread and man i wish i was able to watch the salt mine extravaganzas live.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
March 13 2015 20:30 GMT
#2629
On March 14 2015 05:04 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 04:56 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Flash vs Fantasy ruined by 1 game ><

To be fair, one base blink shouldn't exist anymore, no wonder Flash didn't see that coming <.<

I've seen I think 2 one-base Blink all-ins in the last few months, and they were both from Trap.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
March 13 2015 20:31 GMT
#2630
On March 14 2015 05:30 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 05:04 Elentos wrote:
On March 14 2015 04:56 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Flash vs Fantasy ruined by 1 game ><

To be fair, one base blink shouldn't exist anymore, no wonder Flash didn't see that coming <.<

I've seen I think 2 one-base Blink all-ins in the last few months, and they were both from Trap.

clearly a protoss visionary
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 13 2015 20:37 GMT
#2631
On March 14 2015 05:31 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
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On March 14 2015 05:30 ZAiNs wrote:
On March 14 2015 05:04 Elentos wrote:
On March 14 2015 04:56 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Flash vs Fantasy ruined by 1 game ><

To be fair, one base blink shouldn't exist anymore, no wonder Flash didn't see that coming <.<

I've seen I think 2 one-base Blink all-ins in the last few months, and they were both from Trap.

clearly a protoss visionary

PartinG has done those too.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-13 20:47:13
March 13 2015 20:46 GMT
#2632
On March 14 2015 05:30 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 05:04 Elentos wrote:
On March 14 2015 04:56 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Flash vs Fantasy ruined by 1 game ><

To be fair, one base blink shouldn't exist anymore, no wonder Flash didn't see that coming <.<

I've seen I think 2 one-base Blink all-ins in the last few months, and they were both from Trap.

Some maps on the current pool leave that option open. Not nearly as bad as during the worst time, and Terrans have generally learned to deflect that stuff, but there's always a chance that it works.

By the way, props to Flash for going CC first in 4 of 5 games including on Overgrowth and Expedition Lost against a guy that plays 1 base blink the first game of the series <.<.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
March 13 2015 21:00 GMT
#2633
Dang. Wanted to see Flash vs Fanta. Not really surprised he lost though. Got a long way to go to get back to where he was middle of last year.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
March 13 2015 21:05 GMT
#2634
On March 14 2015 06:00 Phredxor wrote:
Dang. Wanted to see Flash vs Fanta. Not really surprised he lost though. Got a long way to go to get back to where he was middle of last year.

He'll get there eventually. Things have been looking up recently (2-0 in SPL round 2, qualified for Code A), and losing against Trap isn't the end of the world.

Ironically, the KT player with the worst performances in the last few weeks is the only one to advance a round in Katowice <.<
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
March 13 2015 21:24 GMT
#2635
On March 14 2015 06:05 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 06:00 Phredxor wrote:
Dang. Wanted to see Flash vs Fanta. Not really surprised he lost though. Got a long way to go to get back to where he was middle of last year.

He'll get there eventually. Things have been looking up recently (2-0 in SPL round 2, qualified for Code A), and losing against Trap isn't the end of the world.

Ironically, the KT player with the worst performances in the last few weeks is the only one to advance a round in Katowice <.<


Yeah, hopefully. Want another RO16 Code S appearance :D

I'm glad Zest won that too, if barely. Although I expect him to get stomped by Inno I hope it helps get him back on track also.
dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
March 13 2015 21:31 GMT
#2636
The reason I like Trap so much is that yeah, he does cheesy and bullshit stuff quite a lot, but unlike some other Protosses whose tricks just fall flat against a diligent Terran that scouts and defends, he has the knack, or the instinct, if you will, to keep applying pressure to break you. And of course the control to make it happen.
Dear, Rain, PartinG, Trap - "Glory to the Firstborn"
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
March 13 2015 21:54 GMT
#2637
On March 14 2015 05:37 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 05:31 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On March 14 2015 05:30 ZAiNs wrote:
On March 14 2015 05:04 Elentos wrote:
On March 14 2015 04:56 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Flash vs Fantasy ruined by 1 game ><

To be fair, one base blink shouldn't exist anymore, no wonder Flash didn't see that coming <.<

I've seen I think 2 one-base Blink all-ins in the last few months, and they were both from Trap.

clearly a protoss visionary

PartinG has done those too.

I think that was San-style Oracle -> Blink containment?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 13 2015 22:07 GMT
#2638
Aww the Jin Air dream wasn't 100% realized D:
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
March 13 2015 22:53 GMT
#2639
On March 14 2015 03:58 ROOTFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 03:27 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:21 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:18 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:16 Everlong wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 lolfail9001 wrote:
On March 14 2015 03:11 ROOTFayth wrote:
all the hate towards trap is so weird, he played pretty well, his micro is generally very on point and his plans are quite smart, definitely deserves the win and good luck to him vs fantasy

The mystical flash fans are butthurt (also, salt from terrans because they totally lose to the stuff Flash lost to on ladder).


No, it's just the display of the most broken Protoss shit we are all witnessing for the last past few years. All-ins and abusive strategies and such.. Trap won 3 games with 1-base bullshit and Flash won 2 macro games I believe (I might be wrong, getting a bit drunk). Of course, people are full of hatred, because this is exactly what is killing this game. Feel free to flame me.

Because SCV pulls are not all-ins and abusive strategies amirite


Just the desperate move. Flash is the player that never allins, yet he still finds the need to do so when he is 1 base up in a macro game, tells the story, pretty much.

So when FlaSh all-ins, it's a desperate move, but when it's a Protoss, it's abusive shit?
...


Yes. Do we agree that in terms of allining your opponent, there are like WAY more options for Protoss then for Terran? Yes/No.

all the options are more or less countered the same way, so why does it even matter

As a Terran you counter Blink allin (Bunkers on High and Lowground the same way as say... proxy oracle, dt rush or some other early allin? Nope. The problem always was : you never know what to orepare for intil its scouted. If you dont scout it, maybe because the opponent denies scouting or hides shit, you either play risky or prepare for SEVERAL things- in which case you already fall behind and its already annoying to play but also to watch. TvP isnt imba if played in a standard, macro way. But the ammount of possible bullshit on the Toss side makes it unpredictable for the Terran and that may seem to be imba. On the other hand the Toss always knows what the terran is up to. I didnt watch the Toss games, because since Blizzard refuses to change some things,the game has become so frustrating to watch and play because it is so versatile and random and way too often rewards cheese. Nothing wromg with cjeese from time to time, but in sc2 the ammount of possible cheeses and agressive openers, as well as their effectiveness is simply too high. That is why I stopped watching games with P in it and the frustration with some things in game design is the reason there are less and less sc2 viewers and players. Since they also wont change it in the next addon I almost cpmpletely lost my interest in sc2 since Blizzard seems to have lost it too.
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
March 13 2015 23:19 GMT
#2640
Lol Flash the greediest player ever.
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