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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 12 2015 18:57 GMT
#3381
My heart is literally beating a bit harder now that i'm looking at the brackets. The biggest threat to Maru has been knocked out and parting isn't in the tournament. Maru gets to sleep / prepare.

Maru is like... a favorite. Don't get me wrong, everyone can win this. But Maru has what it takes to go to the top, I believe it!
maru lover forever
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
March 12 2015 18:57 GMT
#3382
On March 13 2015 03:55 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 03:52 CakeSauc3 wrote:
More games today? Or is that it?

That's it for today...


Darn, I feel like I just had my appetizer and now am going home before the main course
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
March 12 2015 18:57 GMT
#3383
On March 13 2015 03:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Fuck, I'm not even a huge Life fan, but I wanted him to win so badly. I want a bonjwa in SC2, now Life looks a lot less like he could be that


But Inno looks a lot more like he could be that.

Perspective.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
March 12 2015 18:57 GMT
#3384
On March 13 2015 03:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 03:51 BisuDagger wrote:
On March 13 2015 03:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
OK who agrees with me NOW that IEM did a terrible job at seeding (in the interest for the tournament)

But Flash vs Fantasy coming soon...

I mean i understand that their seeding makes kinda sense, but still -.-
Tournaments should seed so we have a high probability of a good final, the rest doesn't matter.

Maru v Life WAS a possibility with the seeding...
Poopfeast 024
Profile Joined November 2014
Gambia437 Posts
March 12 2015 18:57 GMT
#3385
i don't think patience has even 10% chance to win vvs maru to be honest
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 12 2015 18:57 GMT
#3386
On March 13 2015 03:55 pure.Wasted wrote:
Is it just me or does INno take too many fights right on top of his mines? Tactically that feels really off, that's where all the traitor mines seem to be coming from.


He is a lot worse with microing mines compared to his contemporaries Maru and Dream.
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 12 2015 18:58 GMT
#3387
On March 13 2015 03:57 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 03:55 Shellshock wrote:
so I know all the seeding stuff was IEM 1/2 vs Qualifier player, but does anyone feel like the IEM winners really got the short end of the stick?

Winner matchups
Life vs Innovation
Flash vs Trap
TaeJa vs Dark
herO vs Cure

Runner up matchups
Maru vs Patience
Zest vs Hydra
Solar vs Bbyong
Rain vs Hydra

I'd much rather be against someone from the runner up opponents list if I was them

Absolutely. Either way you have to have a better system than that. The eye test has to be a factor

Strange times when people say they actually favor facing Zest over facing Dark or Life or Innovation. Feels strange.
Melix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States89 Posts
March 12 2015 18:58 GMT
#3388
What an amazing series. A genuine rivalry between two elite and evenly matched champions is always good for a sport. Still a shame that this wasn't the finals.
elwoodng
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore438 Posts
March 12 2015 18:58 GMT
#3389
On March 13 2015 03:52 virpi wrote:
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On March 13 2015 03:45 elwoodng wrote:
Masterclass from both players. And I swear Life understands something about engaging in ZvT that no other zergs does.

he's really good at using the map. he also knows how to detonate mines efficiently and how to get surrounds against split up groups of marines. his control was great, but he still could have done much better as he wasted lots of blings against some marauders at some point.

his upgrades were too far behind to win in the end. you just can't trade with a 3-3 terran with worse upgrades, unless you have a shitload of stuff.

I see. I guess that Inno isn't the best splitter either, he relies more on his insane macro. With so much happening, I I think Life still engaged better than any other zerg would have. Some fights he was down on both supply and upgrades and actually came out 30 supplies ahead, I thought I was out of my mind.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 12 2015 18:58 GMT
#3390
On March 13 2015 03:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 03:51 BisuDagger wrote:
On March 13 2015 03:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
OK who agrees with me NOW that IEM did a terrible job at seeding (in the interest for the tournament)

But Flash vs Fantasy coming soon...

I mean i understand that their seeding makes kinda sense, but still -.-
Tournaments should seed so we have a high probability of a good final, the rest doesn't matter.

There are still a lot of names at the top and bottom. Flash hype round #150, Trap who even aced for JAGW, Maru... all at the bottom.
And Innovation, herO still at the top left. And those are just the biggest names still in it...
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
March 12 2015 18:58 GMT
#3391
Lol Geoff
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6668 Posts
March 12 2015 18:58 GMT
#3392
Haha Incontrol God every tournament needs him as a caster.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 12 2015 18:58 GMT
#3393
Strong series by Innovation. I would give him 4/5 Dreams.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
March 12 2015 18:59 GMT
#3394
On March 13 2015 03:57 Incognoto wrote:
My heart is literally beating a bit harder now that i'm looking at the brackets. The biggest threat to Maru has been knocked out and parting isn't in the tournament. Maru gets to sleep / prepare.

Maru is like... a favorite. Don't get me wrong, everyone can win this. But Maru has what it takes to go to the top, I believe it!


Wait, Maru is in this? And people were acting like Innovation had a free ride after Life, lol. This tournament could be great.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
March 12 2015 18:59 GMT
#3395
On March 13 2015 03:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Fuck, I'm not even a huge Life fan, but I wanted him to win so badly. I want a bonjwa in SC2, now Life looks a lot less like he could be that


Yeah, that's the other problem with Life / Bogus facing off in the first round.

Dominance of the scene by one player or two players will actually help popularize SC2.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
March 12 2015 18:59 GMT
#3396
On March 13 2015 03:57 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 03:55 pure.Wasted wrote:
Is it just me or does INno take too many fights right on top of his mines? Tactically that feels really off, that's where all the traitor mines seem to be coming from.


He is a lot worse with microing mines compared to his contemporaries Maru and Dream.


Agreed, but I think if he ran his bio over the mines more often, that would give him the time he needs to micro the mines more, no? Arguable if he would take advantage.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 12 2015 18:59 GMT
#3397
herO vs Cure is gonna be the best series tomorrow
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
March 12 2015 18:59 GMT
#3398
On March 13 2015 03:58 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 03:57 Yorkie wrote:
On March 13 2015 03:55 Shellshock wrote:
so I know all the seeding stuff was IEM 1/2 vs Qualifier player, but does anyone feel like the IEM winners really got the short end of the stick?

Winner matchups
Life vs Innovation
Flash vs Trap
TaeJa vs Dark
herO vs Cure

Runner up matchups
Maru vs Patience
Zest vs Hydra
Solar vs Bbyong
Rain vs Fantasy

I'd much rather be against someone from the runner up opponents list if I was them

Absolutely. Either way you have to have a better system than that. The eye test has to be a factor

Strange times when people say they actually favor facing Zest over facing Dark or Life or Innovation. Feels strange.

well in the case I was making it was between facing Inno Trap Dark or Cure vs Patience Hydra Bbyong or Fantasy. Accidentally wrote Hydra twice in my original post as well. Just saying that it seemed like more often than not the people who won IEMs got matched up with the stronger players who came from the qualifiers.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 12 2015 18:59 GMT
#3399
On March 13 2015 03:58 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 03:57 Yorkie wrote:
On March 13 2015 03:55 Shellshock wrote:
so I know all the seeding stuff was IEM 1/2 vs Qualifier player, but does anyone feel like the IEM winners really got the short end of the stick?

Winner matchups
Life vs Innovation
Flash vs Trap
TaeJa vs Dark
herO vs Cure

Runner up matchups
Maru vs Patience
Zest vs Hydra
Solar vs Bbyong
Rain vs Hydra

I'd much rather be against someone from the runner up opponents list if I was them

Absolutely. Either way you have to have a better system than that. The eye test has to be a factor

Strange times when people say they actually favor facing Zest over facing Dark or Life or Innovation. Feels strange.


No one will stay at the top forever, that is the very nature of competition.
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Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
March 12 2015 18:59 GMT
#3400
I still think Life didn't play as good as he could and Innovation didn't do anything special to deserve his win over Life. It was a standard TvZ, in 3 out of 5 games played, the "let's roll one army in another" game worked out a bit better for Innovation. Let's move on.
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