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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On March 04 2015 20:34 OtherWorld wrote: Is that really indicative of anything though? Looking at last year's S2 qualifiers results, it was 7T/9Z/8P, and Terran was still widely considered UP back then wasn't till code a till all terran dreams went to die. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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imre
France9263 Posts
On March 04 2015 21:02 GumBa wrote: Sorry, soO, Billowy and Cure. I am very satisfied No Guilty Hype i'm disappointed :'( | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
Too many innocent people in his bracket | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
Flash Hype Train V 7.0 has officially left the station, all aboard for Ro16. | ||
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Starecat
940 Posts
Btw surprising results today o.O | ||
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On March 04 2015 22:32 Starecat wrote: Zest confirmed patch toss? Btw surprising results today o.O AFAIK PvT has always been his worst match-up. He's just having issues all around these days. His PvP results recently aren't explained through patchtoss alone for example. | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On March 04 2015 22:40 Elentos wrote: AFAIK PvT has always been his worst match-up. He's just having issues all around these days. His PvP results recently aren't explained through patchtoss alone for example. Well, those I can break down for you and explain that he played very very well and got really unlucky. Especially vs herO and creator. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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Silvana
3713 Posts
On March 04 2015 22:56 DarkLordOlli wrote: Well, those I can break down for you and explain that he played very very well and got really unlucky. Especially vs herO and creator. I'd like to hear this explanation. First game against herO specially, because I felt like he was playing poorly (scouted Dark Shrine but ran his obs across the map, said obs saw stalkers moving out of herO's base yet didn't bring his phoenixes back for the battle, phoenixes chilling there doing nothing...) | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
Both games vs creator as well as the ace vs herO were build order losses. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18510 Posts
 Life is the best example that unorthodox playstyle gives you the best rewards | ||
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On March 04 2015 23:22 DarkLordOlli wrote: Game 1 vs herO he was ahead even after the DT and then built immortals to bridge the gap to his own blink finishing. Not bringing his phoenixes home was the big mistake that cost him (I don't remember his obs scouting the stalkers). If he does that he holds super easily because herO's timing made no sense at all. Both games vs creator as well as the ace vs herO were build order losses. Both games against Creator pretty much reached late game, speaking of a build order loss at that point seems weird. In game one against Creator, Zest canceled his +2 attack like 3 times aswell, which was just odd. In the ace against Creator he took a good fight, was ahead and then lost all his colossi by overcommitting. | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On March 04 2015 23:26 sharkie wrote: herO's timing won him the game so I'd say it made a lot of sense Life is the best example that unorthodox playstyle gives you the best rewards Well good thing I don't turn to you for PvP advice then! Because it made no sense and if Zest brings his phoenixes home, herO loses the game right there. | ||
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Silvana
3713 Posts
On March 04 2015 23:22 DarkLordOlli wrote: Game 1 vs herO he was ahead even after the DT and then built immortals to bridge the gap to his own blink finishing. Not bringing his phoenixes home was the big mistake that cost him (I don't remember his obs scouting the stalkers). If he does that he holds super easily because herO's timing made no sense at all. Both games vs creator as well as the ace vs herO were build order losses. I see. I guess he underestimated the amount of herO's stalkers and thought of using the phoenixes to kill probes and seal the deal. Still, the DT thing didn't make sense to me, did he think "ok I'm gonna let this DTs do some damage because I'll be ahead anyways, and use my obs for scouting the follow up"? If so, he failed to scout the follow up correctly because it killed him. Thanks DLO for educating us in this dark art of PvP ^.^ | ||
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Elentos
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ETisME
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On March 04 2015 23:33 Elentos wrote: Both games against Creator pretty much reached late game, speaking of a build order loss at that point seems weird. In game one against Creator, Zest canceled his +2 attack like 3 times aswell, which was just odd. In the ace against Creator he took a good fight, was ahead and then lost all his colossi by overcommitting. 3gate blink/robo vs an expand build IS a build order loss, it's as far behind as you can fall with that build. It has no potential to pressure and it has an expand that starts when Creator's is already done. In fact, Zest played a ridiculous game in the ace vs Creator to kill his army but he was never ahead. He had one timing to try and win the game (Creator had better upgrades and another one finishing, as well as a 4th going up. He was on a timer and Creator barely held his attack with DTs. Both games he played from a gigantic deficit and did all he could. | ||
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