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Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
March 04 2015 10:58 GMT
#721
Good to see the terran nerf is inevitable. ie. Zest 1 : 2 TANGTANG
*burp*
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 04 2015 10:58 GMT
#722
On March 04 2015 19:55 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 19:50 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 04 2015 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 04 2015 19:27 sharkie wrote:
On March 04 2015 19:23 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So weird to see Zest lose by the way, if he aces for THAT KT lineup he has to be doing well in practice at least. He keeps saying his matchups are all fairly equally good. Mysterious stuff.


People from KT (players and coaches) also keep saying Stats is not doing so well in practice (nothing special) as in official matches and he still keeps outperforming every time.


But you'd think that he actually DOES play well in practice if they keep fielding him as ace. And I don't think it's a nerve issue, Zest isn't exactly known for that. The games vs herO yesterday he got very unlucky but also made some uncharacteristic mistakes. Just seems off atm, which makes me wonder why he's still considered their ace by coaches.

Well we've seen in the past that coaches sometimes make strange decisions, which appear as genius when they work out and as totally retarded when they don't, so I wouldn't read too much into Zest being KT's ace.


He's consistently aced for them though, not like they randomly made a crazy choice to send him out once.

Yeah that's true. As for the "popular player" thing, I don't buy it because if they really would want that they'd field Flash instead, as much as I like Zest just compare the fangirls screams when Flash wins a game and when Zest wins one and you'll see who is the more popular.
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SackOfWetMice
Profile Joined October 2014
United States288 Posts
March 04 2015 10:59 GMT
#723
And wow, I just looked, Zest lost to TANGTANG? As mediocre as I think Zest is, getting first rounded by TANGTANG in the qualifiers to get into Code A is a surprise even to me. I expected him to take a series or two, at least, before dropping out.
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hborrgg
Profile Joined February 2015
United States888 Posts
March 04 2015 11:00 GMT
#724
TANGTANG is just really good guys.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
March 04 2015 11:00 GMT
#725
On March 04 2015 19:58 Parcelleus wrote:
Good to see the terran nerf is inevitable. ie. Zest 1 : 2 TANGTANG

Zest playing like shit shouldn't be an excuse to nerf Terran to put them back under 50% winrate <.<
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 04 2015 11:02 GMT
#726
Well we haven't seen the games to be fair, TANGTANG might be a god
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
March 04 2015 11:03 GMT
#727
On March 04 2015 20:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Well we haven't seen the games to be fair, TANGTANG might be a god

He lost the next series immediately, didn't he?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 04 2015 11:03 GMT
#728
On March 04 2015 20:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Well we haven't seen the games to be fair, TANGTANG might be a god

TANGTANG might even be SC2's FlaSh
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SackOfWetMice
Profile Joined October 2014
United States288 Posts
March 04 2015 11:04 GMT
#729
On March 04 2015 19:58 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 19:55 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 04 2015 19:50 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 04 2015 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 04 2015 19:27 sharkie wrote:
On March 04 2015 19:23 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So weird to see Zest lose by the way, if he aces for THAT KT lineup he has to be doing well in practice at least. He keeps saying his matchups are all fairly equally good. Mysterious stuff.


People from KT (players and coaches) also keep saying Stats is not doing so well in practice (nothing special) as in official matches and he still keeps outperforming every time.


But you'd think that he actually DOES play well in practice if they keep fielding him as ace. And I don't think it's a nerve issue, Zest isn't exactly known for that. The games vs herO yesterday he got very unlucky but also made some uncharacteristic mistakes. Just seems off atm, which makes me wonder why he's still considered their ace by coaches.

Well we've seen in the past that coaches sometimes make strange decisions, which appear as genius when they work out and as totally retarded when they don't, so I wouldn't read too much into Zest being KT's ace.


He's consistently aced for them though, not like they randomly made a crazy choice to send him out once.

Yeah that's true. As for the "popular player" thing, I don't buy it because if they really would want that they'd field Flash instead, as much as I like Zest just compare the fangirls screams when Flash wins a game and when Zest wins one and you'll see who is the more popular.

You're making an unnecessary and incorrect assumption there, though - disregarding the "popularity" factor because you say if that was the case, then they'd send out Flash. But that's not necessarily true, as they do intend to win the ace. Sending out Flash in his current form would just be possibly the worst choice statistically as ace, despite him being the most popular player on KT. So they choose Zest, someone they think has a better chance of winning the ace than Flash (which isn't saying much), but is still a fan favorite and an attractive face for their brand (again, PL is a television show in Korea, after all).
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
March 04 2015 11:06 GMT
#730
Checked it, TANGTANG lost the next series to Pigbaby 0-2.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
SackOfWetMice
Profile Joined October 2014
United States288 Posts
March 04 2015 11:07 GMT
#731
On March 04 2015 20:03 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 20:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Well we haven't seen the games to be fair, TANGTANG might be a god

He lost the next series immediately, didn't he?

Yes, TANTANG beat Zest, then immediately dropped 0-2 to Pigbaby.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 04 2015 11:08 GMT
#732
On March 04 2015 20:04 SackOfWetMice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 19:58 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 04 2015 19:55 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 04 2015 19:50 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 04 2015 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 04 2015 19:27 sharkie wrote:
On March 04 2015 19:23 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So weird to see Zest lose by the way, if he aces for THAT KT lineup he has to be doing well in practice at least. He keeps saying his matchups are all fairly equally good. Mysterious stuff.


People from KT (players and coaches) also keep saying Stats is not doing so well in practice (nothing special) as in official matches and he still keeps outperforming every time.


But you'd think that he actually DOES play well in practice if they keep fielding him as ace. And I don't think it's a nerve issue, Zest isn't exactly known for that. The games vs herO yesterday he got very unlucky but also made some uncharacteristic mistakes. Just seems off atm, which makes me wonder why he's still considered their ace by coaches.

Well we've seen in the past that coaches sometimes make strange decisions, which appear as genius when they work out and as totally retarded when they don't, so I wouldn't read too much into Zest being KT's ace.


He's consistently aced for them though, not like they randomly made a crazy choice to send him out once.

Yeah that's true. As for the "popular player" thing, I don't buy it because if they really would want that they'd field Flash instead, as much as I like Zest just compare the fangirls screams when Flash wins a game and when Zest wins one and you'll see who is the more popular.

You're making an unnecessary and incorrect assumption there, though - disregarding the "popularity" factor because you say if that was the case, then they'd send out Flash. But that's not necessarily true, as they do intend to win the ace. Sending out Flash in his current form would just be possibly the worst choice statistically as ace, despite him being the most popular player on KT. So they choose Zest, someone they think has a better chance of winning the ace than Flash (which isn't saying much), but is still a fan favorite and an attractive face for their brand (again, PL is a television show in Korea, after all).

I'm happy to learn that I am incorrect, and that you and your overpowered knowledge know what goes through the mind of KT's coaches and decisions makers, as well as knowing that FlaSh's in house stats are worse than Zest's. You should consider applying for a job at SKT, they'd be happy to know how KT works from the inside.
(and that sig lmao, golden)
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 04 2015 11:09 GMT
#733
On March 04 2015 20:03 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 20:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Well we haven't seen the games to be fair, TANGTANG might be a god

He lost the next series immediately, didn't he?


He still may have played godly in the series vs Zest, we don't know. Crazier things have happened.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
March 04 2015 11:15 GMT
#734
On March 04 2015 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 20:03 Elentos wrote:
On March 04 2015 20:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Well we haven't seen the games to be fair, TANGTANG might be a god

He lost the next series immediately, didn't he?


He still may have played godly in the series vs Zest, we don't know. Crazier things have happened.

Crazier things than TANGTANG playing like a god have happened in SC2? o.O
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
March 04 2015 11:15 GMT
#735
Muahahaha (T)TANGTANG 2-1 (P)Zest, oh my aching sides
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 04 2015 11:18 GMT
#736
So Dwf, how's that ZTarcraft article coming along?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 04 2015 11:21 GMT
#737
On March 04 2015 20:18 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So Dwf, how's that ZTarcraft article coming along?

More protoss players qualified than terran and zerg
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
March 04 2015 11:34 GMT
#738
maybe tangtang played like a god or zest just had a really bad day. the sad thing is we'll never know
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 04 2015 11:34 GMT
#739
On March 04 2015 20:21 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 20:18 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So Dwf, how's that ZTarcraft article coming along?

More protoss players qualified than terran and zerg

Is that really indicative of anything though? Looking at last year's S2 qualifiers results, it was 7T/9Z/8P, and Terran was still widely considered UP back then
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 04 2015 11:35 GMT
#740
On March 04 2015 20:34 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 20:21 Lorning wrote:
On March 04 2015 20:18 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So Dwf, how's that ZTarcraft article coming along?

More protoss players qualified than terran and zerg

Is that really indicative of anything though? Looking at last year's S2 qualifiers results, it was 7T/9Z/8P, and Terran was still widely considered UP back then

Dunno, I'm not really an experienced balance whiner
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