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wp herO !!
but maru ;; ...
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On February 27 2015 23:05 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 23:04 sAsImre wrote:On February 27 2015 23:03 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 23:01 gTank wrote:On February 27 2015 23:00 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 22:59 Zealously wrote:On February 27 2015 22:57 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 22:55 sAsImre wrote:On February 27 2015 22:53 ZAiNs wrote:Because he stays in Korea and didn't make it to Blizzcon. I forgot IEMs took place in Korea  Go ahead and count Life's foreign tourneys, then count Rain's. What are you trying to argue right now? Rain is at least as good as Life overall, admittedly he hasn't been as of late though. So many ppl here give evidence that that is not the case but ignoring it is way easier. GG no re. Oh ok, I guess you're right. The best players are TaeJa and Life. raise to swag_bro level if you're attempting some trolling... Saying Rain isn't a top tier player is trolling...
Saying TaeJa is the best player with Life is trolling. Even the TL awards didn't dare.
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On February 27 2015 23:04 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 23:03 Rollora wrote:On February 27 2015 22:59 Penev wrote:On February 27 2015 22:58 Rollora wrote:
SC2 simply too volatile/random. That is why I hate it so often.
Cheeses and allins are too strong.
I used to say the better player doesn't always win and then the answer was clear "it is also a sign of a better player to choose the right strategy". Yeah well true that but there are too many strong openers for toss that you can choose and still switch to macro (so not even really a allin/cheese) and that is what I hate about it: Can't prepare for everything as terran, and even if scouted somethimes the build order just outright kills you.
That (SC2 being so volatile) is IMO the reason why we don't see players dominating over a long period of time although being totally on top of their micro and macro.
However, since Parting is a great player he deserves it as well, I just wished he beat Maru in a macro game and not cheese, which I always consider cheap wins. And there is this Protoss Bullshit thread...
Oracle still should be redesigned. It makes too many kills too fast and it doesn't require that much micro compared to other harassement options (and not much of an investment compared to them).
On Marus side I question his decision making, as he must know in a macro game he wins against Parting, so why not go for a safer opening. But what is safer then reaper expand on the other side?
Since they won't fix many of the unit design problems (the game may be balanced but its unstable and volatile) with the addon, and even the slightest inbalances in pro play get really huge in lower levels (an easy to control but hard to defend against harass unit) the reason why so many people stopped playing and watchin sc2 is simply the frustration it gives you.
None of us is Korean Pro Level and therefore things that already look imba on the streams and VODs really are imba at lower leagues.
I wished with the addon, the game gets more like BW again, where 1 misclick in a fight didn't end the game but you could regain lead with several well done other clicks and micro and such and you had the chance to come back in the game just by being better in mechanics.
Since the announcement of LOTV I cannot expect that sort of developement for SC2 anymore. So I guess I'll just wait for SC3 then, since there is no other RTS around (Grey Goo?) that is as good and fascinating as SC to me. Passionstone is NOT for you :D Hmm sorry I didn't get that what is it? Or do you mean my passion? In that case : you are right: I lost it in 2014, when almost every tournament was PvPvP and also the mentioned reason above... or it is just... because I am ill maybe and I am not passionate today I meant Hearthstone.
Haha didn't know it had that other name
Well no, I don't play cardgames or whatever that is.
It just looks very boring to me
But thanks for reaffirming that this is no game for me
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On February 27 2015 23:05 Inflicted wrote:
PartinG vs Solar
winner will probably be a finalist
MMA is a master of preparation
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On February 27 2015 23:05 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 23:05 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 23:04 sAsImre wrote:On February 27 2015 23:03 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 23:01 gTank wrote:On February 27 2015 23:00 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 22:59 Zealously wrote:On February 27 2015 22:57 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 22:55 sAsImre wrote:On February 27 2015 22:53 ZAiNs wrote:
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Because he stays in Korea and didn't make it to Blizzcon. I forgot IEMs took place in Korea Go ahead and count Life's foreign tourneys, then count Rain's. What are you trying to argue right now? Rain is at least as good as Life overall, admittedly he hasn't been as of late though. So many ppl here give evidence that that is not the case but ignoring it is way easier. GG no re. Oh ok, I guess you're right. The best players are TaeJa and Life. raise to swag_bro level if you're attempting some trolling... Saying Rain isn't a top tier player is trolling... Saying TaeJa is the best player with Life is trolling. Even the TL awards didn't dare.
You really didn't realise I was being sarcastic? ~_~
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On February 27 2015 23:03 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 23:02 CAG Husker wrote:
An Inno GSL repeat would require wins over Life and likely herO and PartinG which would just be ridiculous. A Life or Inno win would be a strong statement toward a claim as undisputable n°1 player in the world at the moment considering the bracket.
Hit the nail on the head. That was exactly the point I wanted to make.
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On February 27 2015 23:06 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 23:05 Inflicted wrote:
PartinG vs Solar
winner will probably be a finalist MMA is a master of preparation
Just need to prepare for the all ins :D
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On February 27 2015 23:06 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 23:05 sAsImre wrote:On February 27 2015 23:05 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 23:04 sAsImre wrote:On February 27 2015 23:03 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 23:01 gTank wrote:On February 27 2015 23:00 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 22:59 Zealously wrote:On February 27 2015 22:57 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 22:55 sAsImre wrote:[quote] I forgot IEMs took place in Korea Go ahead and count Life's foreign tourneys, then count Rain's. What are you trying to argue right now? Rain is at least as good as Life overall, admittedly he hasn't been as of late though. So many ppl here give evidence that that is not the case but ignoring it is way easier. GG no re. Oh ok, I guess you're right. The best players are TaeJa and Life. raise to swag_bro level if you're attempting some trolling... Saying Rain isn't a top tier player is trolling... Saying TaeJa is the best player with Life is trolling. Even the TL awards didn't dare. You really didn't realise I was being sarcastic? ~_~
Well TaeJa isn't far from Rain, exited only one round earlier :D
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[B]On February 27 2015 22:58 Rollora wrote:[/
Widow mine still should be redesigned. It makes too many kills too fast and it doesn't require that much micro compared to other harassement options (and not much of an investment compared to them).
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Fixed.
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On February 27 2015 23:07 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 23:06 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 23:05 sAsImre wrote:On February 27 2015 23:05 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 23:04 sAsImre wrote:On February 27 2015 23:03 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 23:01 gTank wrote:On February 27 2015 23:00 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 22:59 Zealously wrote:On February 27 2015 22:57 ZAiNs wrote:
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Go ahead and count Life's foreign tourneys, then count Rain's. What are you trying to argue right now? Rain is at least as good as Life overall, admittedly he hasn't been as of late though. So many ppl here give evidence that that is not the case but ignoring it is way easier. GG no re. Oh ok, I guess you're right. The best players are TaeJa and Life. raise to swag_bro level if you're attempting some trolling... Saying Rain isn't a top tier player is trolling... Saying TaeJa is the best player with Life is trolling. Even the TL awards didn't dare. You really didn't realise I was being sarcastic? ~_~ Well TaeJa isn't far from Rain, exited only one round earlier :D
In the last 6 months Rain has beat Life twice  . And Zest/sOs/soO didn't even make either Starleague this year, I guess thye're bad too.
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There's no denying that Life is currently at the top.
Eh, if this were One Piece I'd put him Yonko level but he's not ready to be Pirate King (aka MVP) yet.
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On February 27 2015 23:08 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 23:07 sAsImre wrote:On February 27 2015 23:06 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 23:05 sAsImre wrote:On February 27 2015 23:05 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 23:04 sAsImre wrote:On February 27 2015 23:03 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 23:01 gTank wrote:On February 27 2015 23:00 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 22:59 Zealously wrote:
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What are you trying to argue right now? Rain is at least as good as Life overall, admittedly he hasn't been as of late though. So many ppl here give evidence that that is not the case but ignoring it is way easier. GG no re. Oh ok, I guess you're right. The best players are TaeJa and Life. raise to swag_bro level if you're attempting some trolling... Saying Rain isn't a top tier player is trolling... Saying TaeJa is the best player with Life is trolling. Even the TL awards didn't dare. You really didn't realise I was being sarcastic? ~_~ Well TaeJa isn't far from Rain, exited only one round earlier :D In the last 6 months Rain has beat Life twice . And Zest/sOs/soO didn't even make either Starleague this year, I guess thye're bad too.
not at their level at the very least :'( especially Zest :'(
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Hmm, I knew herO would make it out, but Maru losing? That in itself is one of the biggest upsets Starcraft2 has ever seen. Maru shouldn't be losing to anyone except for Life at this point in time. He is the 2nd best player in the world. But, I must admit, upsets do happen from time to time. Maru us known to slip up sometimes. Actually, I think his wrists are bothering him again. I guess that explains his loss against Parting.
And as for MC, I still think he does not care about this game anymore. If he did, he would have won. He should have went out 4-0 in first place. If MC needed the money, like all the other players in this group, he would have won... but the reality is that he doesn't need so he is playing for fun. He's playing for fun yet he still makes it through the most difficult GSL qualifier bracket and get a out of the most difficult GSL group in Starcraft2's history.
Oh well, now I can vote for Life to win.
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On February 27 2015 22:45 Penev wrote:
Balanced gaem
User was warned for this post
You know Kadaver; If you're not really following the LR you shouldn't mod. Jesus fucking christ
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Actually I think MMA as a good shot at the title. Considering bracket, my power rank would be :
1. Life
2. MMA
3. INnoVation
4. herO
5. Solar - PartinG
7. Rogue
8. TY
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On February 27 2015 22:58 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 22:57 dazed25 wrote:On February 27 2015 22:52 sAsImre wrote:On February 27 2015 22:51 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 22:49 boxerfred wrote:On February 27 2015 22:48 ZAiNs wrote:On February 27 2015 22:46 Keeemy wrote:On February 27 2015 22:46 Ej_ wrote:I don't know how people could put  Maru in the same tier as INnoVation,  Rain or  Life How can you put Rain in the same tier as Life and Bogus? Yea, Innovation and Life fall off all the time. Rain is so consistent. hahaha Rain has never been Code B like Life was last year . i'm searching a tournament win in 2014, could you help me: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Rain_(Korean_Protoss)/Results Before Rain's disastrous RO16 group the other day he was still the best all around Protoss (due to herO's PvP weakness and sOs/Zest not making it to individual leagues). Regardless he's not in the Life & Inno bracket atm but he's been one of the best players of the last 2 years. If you just care about championships you can also say that soO hasn't been one of the best and most consistent players over the last year. And Maru also hasn't won anything in a while but has still been one of the best terrans and players as well. herO beat Rain in the only time they've met this year. How was rain best all around protoss over herO?
Losing a 4-3 series doesn't really say if one player is better than the other especially in a volatile matchup like PvP. Life also got outplayed by Rain recently but he's still the better player. Rain "had" been better across all matchups prior to that disaster earlier this week. In fact aligulac actually shows the change where herO just overtook him.
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On February 27 2015 23:11 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 22:45 Penev wrote:
Balanced gaem
User was warned for this post You know Kadaver; If you're not really following the LR you shouldn't mod. Jesus fucking christ
that'll teach you :p
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Why do you think game 2 of Maru PartinG was an excellent game?!? wtf.
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On February 27 2015 23:11 Serimek wrote:
Actually I think MMA as a good shot at the title. Considering bracket, my power rank would be :
1. Life
2. MMA
3. INnoVation
4. herO
5. Solar - PartinG
7. Rogue
8. TY
I'd rank Rogue above Solar and PartinG, otherwise I approve of this Power Rank.
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On February 27 2015 23:15 ilovegroov wrote:
Why do you think game 2 of Maru PartinG was an excellent game?!? wtf.
the micro was incredible
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EPT
