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No more balance whining please.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9056 Posts
November 28 2014 14:19 GMT
#461
did he even pull the boys?
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
November 28 2014 14:19 GMT
#462
Wow, liquipedia is down because of server load. Hype?
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 28 2014 14:19 GMT
#463
On November 28 2014 23:19 Garnet wrote:
did he even pull the boys?

Yes, 25-30 out of the 48 he had
Heinsenzerg
Profile Joined September 2011
Argentina2279 Posts
November 28 2014 14:19 GMT
#464
jackg is gonna die next round

mc had wings...
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
November 28 2014 14:19 GMT
#465
On November 28 2014 23:19 Garnet wrote:
did he even pull the boys?


Yes he pulled a lot of them.

jjakji cut SCV production at 48, casters didn't mention this. He had such a big army supply.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2276 Posts
November 28 2014 14:19 GMT
#466
On November 28 2014 23:17 checkupriv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 23:16 SharkStarcraft wrote:
i fucking hate this build
protoss outplays you the entire game? Let's pull the boys and win anyway!

mc outplayed him by turtling with nexus cannon while jjakji tried to be everywhere


He outplayed him by defending his quick third perfectly, fending off all drops nearly without losses while killing several medivacs and had way better upgrades.
Then terran pulls scvs and a-moves. It's just so so wrong.
Cogito, ergo Toss
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
November 28 2014 14:20 GMT
#467
--- Nuked ---
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
November 28 2014 14:20 GMT
#468
On November 28 2014 23:19 Garnet wrote:
did he even pull the boys?


2 bases worth of SCVs if I remember correctly. It was very textbook -> 4 Vikings at a time, 3 Ghosts, go with 40 SCVs and all your units.
Maniak_
Profile Joined October 2010
France305 Posts
November 28 2014 14:21 GMT
#469
On November 28 2014 23:18 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
I hate terrans

Nah, they're obviously all better than their opponents. Nothing wrong here.
"They make psychiatrists get psychoanalyzed before they can get certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?" -- Jubal Early - Firefly
Talaris
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland766 Posts
November 28 2014 14:21 GMT
#470
On November 28 2014 23:19 SharkStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 23:17 checkupriv wrote:
On November 28 2014 23:16 SharkStarcraft wrote:
i fucking hate this build
protoss outplays you the entire game? Let's pull the boys and win anyway!

mc outplayed him by turtling with nexus cannon while jjakji tried to be everywhere


He outplayed him by defending his quick third perfectly, fending off all drops nearly without losses while killing several medivacs and had way better upgrades.
Then terran pulls scvs and a-moves. It's just so so wrong.


TERRANED !
-= Jaedong // HerO // HasuObs // Best // Rush =-
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10026 Posts
November 28 2014 14:22 GMT
#471
On November 28 2014 23:21 Maniak_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 23:18 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
I hate terrans

Nah, they're obviously all better than their opponents. Nothing wrong here.

i love protoss tears
RIP Meatloaf <3
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
November 28 2014 14:22 GMT
#472
On November 28 2014 23:20 Jazzman88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 23:19 Garnet wrote:
did he even pull the boys?


2 bases worth of SCVs if I remember correctly. It was very textbook -> 4 Vikings at a time, 3 Ghosts, go with 40 SCVs and all your units.


When in doubt, use a good BO. MC should have done the same instead of fucking around with oracles, immortals... It's a strategy game after all.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 28 2014 14:22 GMT
#473
On November 28 2014 23:19 SharkStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 23:17 checkupriv wrote:
On November 28 2014 23:16 SharkStarcraft wrote:
i fucking hate this build
protoss outplays you the entire game? Let's pull the boys and win anyway!

mc outplayed him by turtling with nexus cannon while jjakji tried to be everywhere


He outplayed him by defending his quick third perfectly, fending off all drops nearly without losses while killing several medivacs and had way better upgrades.
Then terran pulls scvs and a-moves. It's just so so wrong.


We are seeing different things. Jjakji cut scvs like a million years ago, all of that shit was just smoke and mirrors. The only thing that mattered was if MC could hold the all-in or not.
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Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
November 28 2014 14:22 GMT
#474
On November 28 2014 23:19 SharkStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 23:17 checkupriv wrote:
On November 28 2014 23:16 SharkStarcraft wrote:
i fucking hate this build
protoss outplays you the entire game? Let's pull the boys and win anyway!

mc outplayed him by turtling with nexus cannon while jjakji tried to be everywhere


He outplayed him by defending his quick third perfectly, fending off all drops nearly without losses while killing several medivacs and had way better upgrades.
Then terran pulls scvs and a-moves. It's just so so wrong.


Yeah and MC had the game... but for some reason went templar archives and no storm, then went back to late colossi. That's pretty bizarre and played even more perfectly for Jjakji, like unbelievably perfect...
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 28 2014 14:22 GMT
#475
On November 28 2014 23:19 SharkStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 23:17 checkupriv wrote:
On November 28 2014 23:16 SharkStarcraft wrote:
i fucking hate this build
protoss outplays you the entire game? Let's pull the boys and win anyway!

mc outplayed him by turtling with nexus cannon while jjakji tried to be everywhere


He outplayed him by defending his quick third perfectly, fending off all drops nearly without losses while killing several medivacs and had way better upgrades.
Then terran pulls scvs and a-moves. It's just so so wrong.

Yeah, we should probably go back to the blessed early days of 2014 when Protoss could take a fast third AND defend it AND tech Storm at their heart's content
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10026 Posts
November 28 2014 14:23 GMT
#476
how many times have we seen terrans play perfectly, be 2-3 bases ahead and then get hit with 2 storms and game over?

Just like storm is a part of the game, so are SCV pulls. If you don't see it coming, you lose, if your build or unit comp can't handle it you lose.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 14:25:24
November 28 2014 14:24 GMT
#477
On November 28 2014 23:19 SharkStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 23:17 checkupriv wrote:
On November 28 2014 23:16 SharkStarcraft wrote:
i fucking hate this build
protoss outplays you the entire game? Let's pull the boys and win anyway!

mc outplayed him by turtling with nexus cannon while jjakji tried to be everywhere


He outplayed him by defending his quick third perfectly, fending off all drops nearly without losses while killing several medivacs and had way better upgrades.
Then terran pulls scvs and a-moves. It's just so so wrong.

Jjakji defended the oracle very well, got a couple sentries... so i would say it was a close game.
But yeah, in the end it was a matter of army composition and a "cut SCVs, get maxed and pull the boys"
MC even took the better angle there, but there was not much he could do
edit: Its a strategic win, its lame but its true
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 14:25:08
November 28 2014 14:24 GMT
#478
On November 28 2014 23:22 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 23:19 SharkStarcraft wrote:
On November 28 2014 23:17 checkupriv wrote:
On November 28 2014 23:16 SharkStarcraft wrote:
i fucking hate this build
protoss outplays you the entire game? Let's pull the boys and win anyway!

mc outplayed him by turtling with nexus cannon while jjakji tried to be everywhere


He outplayed him by defending his quick third perfectly, fending off all drops nearly without losses while killing several medivacs and had way better upgrades.
Then terran pulls scvs and a-moves. It's just so so wrong.

Yeah, we should probably go back to the blessed early days of 2014 when Protoss could take a fast third AND defend it AND tech Storm at their heart's content

Or we can praise this map pool and last buffs, which allowed pros to say - Terran is OP. But it is not a huge wall of text, so nobody listens, right?

Edit -> for example Zest(!!)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
November 28 2014 14:24 GMT
#479
On November 28 2014 23:22 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 23:21 Maniak_ wrote:
On November 28 2014 23:18 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
I hate terrans

Nah, they're obviously all better than their opponents. Nothing wrong here.

i love protoss tears


Oh look its one of the "Terran are just BETTER" brigade. You're replying to a guy with a Zerg icon incidentally, helps to look.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Maniak_
Profile Joined October 2010
France305 Posts
November 28 2014 14:24 GMT
#480
On November 28 2014 23:22 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 23:19 SharkStarcraft wrote:
On November 28 2014 23:17 checkupriv wrote:
On November 28 2014 23:16 SharkStarcraft wrote:
i fucking hate this build
protoss outplays you the entire game? Let's pull the boys and win anyway!

mc outplayed him by turtling with nexus cannon while jjakji tried to be everywhere


He outplayed him by defending his quick third perfectly, fending off all drops nearly without losses while killing several medivacs and had way better upgrades.
Then terran pulls scvs and a-moves. It's just so so wrong.

Yeah, we should probably go back to the blessed early days of 2014 when Protoss could take a fast third AND defend it AND tech Storm at their heart's content

Sure, much better now when terrans can lose games but force draws or lose games but pull scvs and win anyway.
Though they could still use some more buffs.
"They make psychiatrists get psychoanalyzed before they can get certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. Does that seem right to you?" -- Jubal Early - Firefly
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