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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 27 2014 20:54 GMT
#1841
On November 28 2014 05:51 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 05:50 Xoronius wrote:
On November 28 2014 05:47 Heartland wrote:
On November 28 2014 05:46 Xoronius wrote:
On November 28 2014 05:43 Heartland wrote:
And this is why the GSL system for groups is widely used : P

Clarity for every single viewer should step behind fairness. Sadly, as you say, it doesn't. Anyway, it's hard to make a GSL-system-group with 5 players.


They could have made five groups of four and then just not done the playoff bracket like they have.

But that would mean, that
a) GSL group system is used, which is generally a bad thing
b) there would be either 10 or 15 players in the bracket. It is not possible, to make fair brackets with these numbers.


a) why?
b) What? There are playoff brackets made from gsl style groups all the time.

a) It would take a while to answer, if you are honestly interested in my opinion, PM me and I'll send you a summary of my thoughts on that.
b) Yes. If there are 16player/8players, that is perfectly possible. With 10/15 it isn't, taking seeding into consideration. I'd be open for suggestions, but I'm fairly sure, I'm right here, especially with 15 being an odd number.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 27 2014 20:55 GMT
#1842
forgg has no respect at all for his opponent
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
November 27 2014 20:56 GMT
#1843
I'm glad to see jjakji not using 2 rax yet TvZ. He's been doing it so much lately, to less than great effect.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
November 27 2014 20:56 GMT
#1844
On November 28 2014 05:51 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 05:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
apparently (P)MC 1-0 (P)StarDust?

And ForGG 1 - 0 Solar? the fuck

Please.
ForGG 2 - 0 Solar
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 27 2014 20:56 GMT
#1845
On November 28 2014 05:52 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 05:51 Heartland wrote:
On November 28 2014 05:50 Xoronius wrote:
On November 28 2014 05:47 Heartland wrote:
On November 28 2014 05:46 Xoronius wrote:
On November 28 2014 05:43 Heartland wrote:
And this is why the GSL system for groups is widely used : P

Clarity for every single viewer should step behind fairness. Sadly, as you say, it doesn't. Anyway, it's hard to make a GSL-system-group with 5 players.


They could have made five groups of four and then just not done the playoff bracket like they have.

But that would mean, that
a) GSL group system is used, which is generally a bad thing
b) there would be either 10 or 15 players in the bracket. It is not possible, to make fair brackets with these numbers.


a) why?
b) What? There are playoff brackets made from gsl style groups all the time.

Oh boy Xoronius vs GSL system coming up

It's been too long

I have not started this. I have been silent for so long, I have held myself back, but if people start attacking the only premier I have left, can you really blame me?
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
November 27 2014 20:56 GMT
#1846
That TvT is so scrappy!

Also, What The Actual Fuck ForGG?
LiquipediaWanderer
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
November 27 2014 20:57 GMT
#1847
Forgg on fire
Gotta feel sorry for life
...
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 27 2014 20:57 GMT
#1848
wow Snute held that!
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
November 27 2014 20:58 GMT
#1849
MC lost a game to SD, does this mean that he's out?
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 27 2014 20:58 GMT
#1850
Solar please pull through.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 27 2014 20:59 GMT
#1851
On November 28 2014 05:58 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
MC lost a game to SD, does this mean that he's out?

MC lost that game? I had no idea what was going on, shit was crazy. Also yeah I think so.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
November 27 2014 20:59 GMT
#1852
On November 28 2014 05:58 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
MC lost a game to SD, does this mean that he's out?

No. No matter the scores of the final serieses, MC advances if he wins and Solar loses.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
November 27 2014 20:59 GMT
#1853
On November 28 2014 05:58 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
MC lost a game to SD, does this mean that he's out?

Solar has to lose 2:0
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 27 2014 21:00 GMT
#1854
On November 28 2014 05:58 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
MC lost a game to SD, does this mean that he's out?

Nah, he miscalculated earlier, he still has a chance to get at -1, while Solar is at -2, if he loses 0-2 to ForGG. And even if both go to -1, MC won the internal series. If MC/ForGG both win their series, Solar is out.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 27 2014 21:00 GMT
#1855
Solar getting work done with the mutas!
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
November 27 2014 21:01 GMT
#1856
MMA still stuck on one base wow.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
November 27 2014 21:01 GMT
#1857
On November 28 2014 06:00 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 05:58 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
MC lost a game to SD, does this mean that he's out?

Nah, he miscalculated earlier, he still has a chance to get at -1, while Solar is at -2, if he loses 0-2 to ForGG. And even if both go to -1, MC won the internal series. If MC/ForGG both win their series, Solar is out.

So they copy the football WC rules? Nice!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
November 27 2014 21:02 GMT
#1858
I like how none of us are dumb enough to attempt figuring out the potential outcomes of Group D.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
November 27 2014 21:02 GMT
#1859
Snuuuteeee!
Hello
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 27 2014 21:03 GMT
#1860
On November 28 2014 06:02 Circumstance wrote:
I like how none of us are dumb enough to attempt figuring out the potential outcomes of Group D.


Khaldor used to do map out 6 man tie scenarios in GSL Up/Down groups.
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