EPT[DreamHack] Winter 2014 - Day 1 - Page 106
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
On November 28 2014 06:36 DJHelium wrote: Pft it's a pretty big deal to advance first place, I bet he's trying hard. I know, i was joking haha It was just the fact that he had 2 or 3 really big blunders where he lost everything to a couple of banes | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On November 28 2014 06:36 BlackCompany wrote: I think he shows 0-4 Thats the score he gets in the next bo3s + Show Spoiler + just kidding  There are no next bo3s. ONLY BO5 NOW ! (And Bo7 for the final) | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On November 28 2014 06:33 TotalBiscuit wrote: You mean the Terrans that lost to Impact right? Format is awful. Impact played like a moron vs Snute. Disappointment all around. Maybe next year Dreamhack won't use such terrible formats, we can only hope. Unless people really want yet another year of RO4 BO3 single elimination nonsense. Football, totally relevant to SC2. You do want to determine that someone is better at something than someone else. The quality of a format is measured by the quality of the determination, not by what the people are doing. In an ideal world, we have a 9-round swiss system / 19-player-RR with all the players, but that will not happen due to the amout of games played. | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On November 28 2014 06:36 Lorning wrote: For some reason that pic reminds me of this one + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/BeR5w.jpg) and this one too + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://sc2.tgbus.com/UploadFiles_6251/201104/20110420161151307.jpg) And that reminds me of this one ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/d9Zbd.jpg) | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On November 28 2014 06:36 Lorning wrote: For some reason that pic reminds me of this one and this one too Gosh I'm glad Choya gave MK some fashion/glasses advice | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 28 2014 06:38 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Gosh I'm glad Choya gave MK some fashion/glasses advice Those glasses were amazing, don't even talk. | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
On November 28 2014 06:37 Boucot wrote: There are no next bo3s. ONLY BO5 NOW ! (And Bo7 for the final) What? Did dreamhack really stop their bo3s till finals stuff? cant believe i missed that :o | ||
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Keeemy
Finland7855 Posts
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djraphi23
France2262 Posts
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Faefae
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On November 28 2014 06:38 BlackCompany wrote: What? Did dreamhack really stop their bo3s till finals stuff? cant believe i missed that :o it's still bo3 if it's not DH Winter (which is the super DH finals) | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On November 28 2014 06:38 BlackCompany wrote: What? Did dreamhack really stop their bo3s till finals stuff? cant believe i missed that :o only for the final tournament in the circuit (i.e. this one) | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On November 28 2014 06:37 BlackCompany wrote: I know, i was joking haha It was just the fact that he had 2 or 3 really big blunders where he lost everything to a couple of banes Sorry I'm not good with irony over internet :D Yeah jjakji is weak vs this style. Still impressed seeing as imo he was a bit behind after the early game. | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On November 28 2014 06:38 BlackCompany wrote: What? Did dreamhack really stop their bo3s till finals stuff? cant believe i missed that :o Nah only for this tourney. Last year most of the matches in lower and upper bracket were bo3, but since less players advance to bracket this year they're having longer series. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On November 28 2014 06:37 SatedSC2 wrote: Both this format and the GSL format have flaws. Neither of them is perfect. They're both perfectly valid and yet are capable of throwing up unfair situations fairly frequently. For example, how many times have we seen someone go out of a GSL-style group with a "winning" map-score vs. the person they lose to in the deciding match..? + Show Spoiler [By which I mean...] + Player A 2-0 Player B <- First Match Player A Loses Winner's Match Player B Wins Loser's Match Player A 1-2 Player B <- Deciding Match 3-2 to Player A in total, but Player B goes through! If in football a round-robin format that uses goal-difference and goals scored (equivalent to map-score) before looking at games between the tied teams is good enough for the World Cup, then it's good enough for DreamHack. Map score is so fucking irrelevant though. The GSL format is fair because it's a bracket. Lose 2 series and you're out, it's that simple. To get out of the group you still have to be the better player, you still gotta beat 2 opponents. In this format, you can get kicked out of the group through results that you have no chance to influence. You can beat the top 2 players, as Impact did and then lose anyway because of mapscore in other series. The format is terrible. Nobody uses it anymore in SC2 and for a good reason. Even Dreamhack doesn't use it most of the time, they moved away from those group formats to GSL style 3-stage groups because it avoided situations like this, but for some reason we're using it in a grand final. So you can forgive me if I'm a little salty. I might as well have set $1300 on fire. | ||
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