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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 20 2014 13:19 GMT
#901
On November 20 2014 22:05 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 22:02 TheDwf wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:57 digmouse wrote:
What the hell happened to these mediocre Terrans???

sKyHigh is on the rise for quite some time actually [ e. g. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_MSI_Beat_IT/South_Korean_Qualifier ], you shouldn't assume "mediocrity" simply because the player has less exposure

As we know, online results only sometimes translate to good offline results. With skyhigh, assuming anything else than mediocrity would be unintuitive

something something CJ win SPL something
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Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
November 20 2014 13:19 GMT
#902
On November 20 2014 22:05 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 22:04 Yonnua wrote:
Also, wow, the Soulkey/Innovation finals dream is real.

Edit: Life also appealed to fans and before either did, Parting was third in the vote.


Oh, now I remember. It didn't really go viral though, did it? Did he do a video like PartinG?


No, he appealed on twitter and some other places iirc. He didn't make a video because he doesn't have as much swag/personality as Parting.
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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
November 20 2014 13:21 GMT
#903
On November 20 2014 22:11 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 22:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:03 Zealously wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:01 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:56 TheDwf wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:55 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:53 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:52 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:50 REyeM wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:50 TheDwf wrote:
[quote]
Please...


Warning pls


For the true words I need a warning? :D

Are you implying Soulkey, MarineKing, sKyHigh and INnoVation are bad? Lol


Nop, implying only MK and skyhigh, and partially Soulkey due to his recent results.

If they're "bad" then why/how did they qualify and advance?


Once a year some "random" guy qualified and u automatically call him as a good player? Strange french terms I feel :D


Not strange you just dont know a lot about Starcraft


How did u came to that conclusion? What if I got a different point of view and cheering for guys that opposit your favorits?

I agree to this point. To be honest I also counted SkyHigh as unlikely to make it. I was wrong. So yes you can say they're not favorites for a match, BUT just don't say they're nabs when they do make it through...


Okay, maybe I was also wrong, was hoping for Flash and SK to come out of this group, Classic still doesn't deserve, he's too much overrated. Todays results even proving that more. MK advanced and that's pretty refreshing at least, but skyhigh, I've played him some online tournament and lost 1-2, and now he's advancing from such hard group beating 2-0 flash in decider, I've gotta weird feeling.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
November 20 2014 13:22 GMT
#904
On November 20 2014 22:19 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 22:05 pure.Wasted wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:04 Yonnua wrote:
Also, wow, the Soulkey/Innovation finals dream is real.

Edit: Life also appealed to fans and before either did, Parting was third in the vote.


Oh, now I remember. It didn't really go viral though, did it? Did he do a video like PartinG?


No, he appealed on twitter and some other places iirc. He didn't make a video because he doesn't have as much swag/personality as Parting.

Life appealed to his fans on his TL fanclub, which is a way better way to show love to his fans than PartinG's video imo
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
November 20 2014 13:24 GMT
#905
On November 20 2014 22:21 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 22:11 samurai80 wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:03 Zealously wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:01 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:56 TheDwf wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:55 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:53 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:52 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:50 REyeM wrote:
[quote]

Warning pls


For the true words I need a warning? :D

Are you implying Soulkey, MarineKing, sKyHigh and INnoVation are bad? Lol


Nop, implying only MK and skyhigh, and partially Soulkey due to his recent results.

If they're "bad" then why/how did they qualify and advance?


Once a year some "random" guy qualified and u automatically call him as a good player? Strange french terms I feel :D


Not strange you just dont know a lot about Starcraft


How did u came to that conclusion? What if I got a different point of view and cheering for guys that opposit your favorits?

I agree to this point. To be honest I also counted SkyHigh as unlikely to make it. I was wrong. So yes you can say they're not favorites for a match, BUT just don't say they're nabs when they do make it through...


Okay, maybe I was also wrong, was hoping for Flash and SK to come out of this group, Classic still doesn't deserve, he's too much overrated. Todays results even proving that more. MK advanced and that's pretty refreshing at least, but skyhigh, I've played him some online tournament and lost 1-2, and now he's advancing from such hard group beating 2-0 flash in decider, I've gotta weird feeling.

Regular duckk here. Next we'll hear that he beat soO offracing and he faced MKP in platinum league.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
November 20 2014 13:24 GMT
#906
On November 20 2014 22:21 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 22:11 samurai80 wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:03 Zealously wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:01 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:56 TheDwf wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:55 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:53 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:52 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:50 REyeM wrote:
[quote]

Warning pls


For the true words I need a warning? :D

Are you implying Soulkey, MarineKing, sKyHigh and INnoVation are bad? Lol


Nop, implying only MK and skyhigh, and partially Soulkey due to his recent results.

If they're "bad" then why/how did they qualify and advance?


Once a year some "random" guy qualified and u automatically call him as a good player? Strange french terms I feel :D


Not strange you just dont know a lot about Starcraft


How did u came to that conclusion? What if I got a different point of view and cheering for guys that opposit your favorits?

I agree to this point. To be honest I also counted SkyHigh as unlikely to make it. I was wrong. So yes you can say they're not favorites for a match, BUT just don't say they're nabs when they do make it through...


Okay, maybe I was also wrong, was hoping for Flash and SK to come out of this group, Classic still doesn't deserve, he's too much overrated. Todays results even proving that more. MK advanced and that's pretty refreshing at least, but skyhigh, I've played him some online tournament and lost 1-2, and now he's advancing from such hard group beating 2-0 flash in decider, I've gotta weird feeling.

Well, you know, players can get better (or worse) over time, and won't play the same way depending on the tournament they're playing in. The fact that sKyHigh is relatively unknown has nothing to do with the fact that he showed very good games today, beat a Code S champion from this year and beat Flash. If you want to evaluate his skill level, you'd be better off taking today's games as a measurement instead of his past achievements.
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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-20 13:27:41
November 20 2014 13:26 GMT
#907
On November 20 2014 22:22 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 22:19 Yonnua wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:05 pure.Wasted wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:04 Yonnua wrote:
Also, wow, the Soulkey/Innovation finals dream is real.

Edit: Life also appealed to fans and before either did, Parting was third in the vote.


Oh, now I remember. It didn't really go viral though, did it? Did he do a video like PartinG?


No, he appealed on twitter and some other places iirc. He didn't make a video because he doesn't have as much swag/personality as Parting.

Life appealed to his fans on his TL fanclub, which is a way better way to show love to his fans than PartinG's video imo


sorry double post
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
November 20 2014 13:26 GMT
#908
On November 20 2014 22:24 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 22:21 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:11 samurai80 wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:03 Zealously wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:01 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:56 TheDwf wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:55 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:53 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:52 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
[quote]

For the true words I need a warning? :D

Are you implying Soulkey, MarineKing, sKyHigh and INnoVation are bad? Lol


Nop, implying only MK and skyhigh, and partially Soulkey due to his recent results.

If they're "bad" then why/how did they qualify and advance?


Once a year some "random" guy qualified and u automatically call him as a good player? Strange french terms I feel :D


Not strange you just dont know a lot about Starcraft


How did u came to that conclusion? What if I got a different point of view and cheering for guys that opposit your favorits?

I agree to this point. To be honest I also counted SkyHigh as unlikely to make it. I was wrong. So yes you can say they're not favorites for a match, BUT just don't say they're nabs when they do make it through...


Okay, maybe I was also wrong, was hoping for Flash and SK to come out of this group, Classic still doesn't deserve, he's too much overrated. Todays results even proving that more. MK advanced and that's pretty refreshing at least, but skyhigh, I've played him some online tournament and lost 1-2, and now he's advancing from such hard group beating 2-0 flash in decider, I've gotta weird feeling.

Regular duckk here. Next we'll hear that he beat soO offracing and he faced MKP in platinum league.


nah, I will never ever beat soO in any conditions, not even a single map
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
November 20 2014 13:27 GMT
#909
On November 20 2014 22:22 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 22:19 Yonnua wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:05 pure.Wasted wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:04 Yonnua wrote:
Also, wow, the Soulkey/Innovation finals dream is real.

Edit: Life also appealed to fans and before either did, Parting was third in the vote.


Oh, now I remember. It didn't really go viral though, did it? Did he do a video like PartinG?


No, he appealed on twitter and some other places iirc. He didn't make a video because he doesn't have as much swag/personality as Parting.

Life appealed to his fans on his TL fanclub, which is a way better way to show love to his fans than PartinG's video imo


I dunno, if PartinG wins the whole thing, that'd be a pretty nice way to show love to his fans.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
November 20 2014 13:28 GMT
#910
On November 20 2014 22:27 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 22:22 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:19 Yonnua wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:05 pure.Wasted wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:04 Yonnua wrote:
Also, wow, the Soulkey/Innovation finals dream is real.

Edit: Life also appealed to fans and before either did, Parting was third in the vote.


Oh, now I remember. It didn't really go viral though, did it? Did he do a video like PartinG?


No, he appealed on twitter and some other places iirc. He didn't make a video because he doesn't have as much swag/personality as Parting.

Life appealed to his fans on his TL fanclub, which is a way better way to show love to his fans than PartinG's video imo


I dunno, if PartinG wins the whole thing, that'd be a pretty nice way to show love to his fans.

Yeah for sure d: It's probably my Life fanboyism showing through
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 20 2014 13:29 GMT
#911
On November 20 2014 22:22 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 22:19 Yonnua wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:05 pure.Wasted wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:04 Yonnua wrote:
Also, wow, the Soulkey/Innovation finals dream is real.

Edit: Life also appealed to fans and before either did, Parting was third in the vote.


Oh, now I remember. It didn't really go viral though, did it? Did he do a video like PartinG?


No, he appealed on twitter and some other places iirc. He didn't make a video because he doesn't have as much swag/personality as Parting.

Life appealed to his fans on his TL fanclub, which is a way better way to show love to his fans than PartinG's video imo

perhaps but it's to a much smaller audience and is arguably lower effort
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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
November 20 2014 13:30 GMT
#912
On November 20 2014 22:24 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 22:21 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:11 samurai80 wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:03 Zealously wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:01 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:56 TheDwf wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:55 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:53 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:52 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
[quote]

For the true words I need a warning? :D

Are you implying Soulkey, MarineKing, sKyHigh and INnoVation are bad? Lol


Nop, implying only MK and skyhigh, and partially Soulkey due to his recent results.

If they're "bad" then why/how did they qualify and advance?


Once a year some "random" guy qualified and u automatically call him as a good player? Strange french terms I feel :D


Not strange you just dont know a lot about Starcraft


How did u came to that conclusion? What if I got a different point of view and cheering for guys that opposit your favorits?

I agree to this point. To be honest I also counted SkyHigh as unlikely to make it. I was wrong. So yes you can say they're not favorites for a match, BUT just don't say they're nabs when they do make it through...


Okay, maybe I was also wrong, was hoping for Flash and SK to come out of this group, Classic still doesn't deserve, he's too much overrated. Todays results even proving that more. MK advanced and that's pretty refreshing at least, but skyhigh, I've played him some online tournament and lost 1-2, and now he's advancing from such hard group beating 2-0 flash in decider, I've gotta weird feeling.

Well, you know, players can get better (or worse) over time, and won't play the same way depending on the tournament they're playing in. The fact that sKyHigh is relatively unknown has nothing to do with the fact that he showed very good games today, beat a Code S champion from this year and beat Flash. If you want to evaluate his skill level, you'd be better off taking today's games as a measurement instead of his past achievements.


I get your point. Maybe I was a bit emotional which not happens often. New faces in our scene is always a good thing (but not when thay are eliminating fan favorits). :|
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 20 2014 13:32 GMT
#913
On November 20 2014 22:30 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 22:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:21 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:11 samurai80 wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:03 Zealously wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:01 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:56 TheDwf wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:55 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:53 OtherWorld wrote:
[quote]
Are you implying Soulkey, MarineKing, sKyHigh and INnoVation are bad? Lol


Nop, implying only MK and skyhigh, and partially Soulkey due to his recent results.

If they're "bad" then why/how did they qualify and advance?


Once a year some "random" guy qualified and u automatically call him as a good player? Strange french terms I feel :D


Not strange you just dont know a lot about Starcraft


How did u came to that conclusion? What if I got a different point of view and cheering for guys that opposit your favorits?

I agree to this point. To be honest I also counted SkyHigh as unlikely to make it. I was wrong. So yes you can say they're not favorites for a match, BUT just don't say they're nabs when they do make it through...


Okay, maybe I was also wrong, was hoping for Flash and SK to come out of this group, Classic still doesn't deserve, he's too much overrated. Todays results even proving that more. MK advanced and that's pretty refreshing at least, but skyhigh, I've played him some online tournament and lost 1-2, and now he's advancing from such hard group beating 2-0 flash in decider, I've gotta weird feeling.

Well, you know, players can get better (or worse) over time, and won't play the same way depending on the tournament they're playing in. The fact that sKyHigh is relatively unknown has nothing to do with the fact that he showed very good games today, beat a Code S champion from this year and beat Flash. If you want to evaluate his skill level, you'd be better off taking today's games as a measurement instead of his past achievements.


I get your point. Maybe I was a bit emotional which not happens often. New faces in our scene is always a good thing (but not when thay are eliminating fan favorits). :|

By definition new faces are more or less bound to eliminate "fan favorites" at one time or another. The "omg only lucky cheeser" of today is the "fan favorite" of tomorrow.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 20 2014 13:32 GMT
#914
skyhigh and marineking confirmed better than TY and Flash
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w3c.TruE
Profile Joined November 2013
Czech Republic1055 Posts
November 20 2014 13:32 GMT
#915
Wow. Soulkey 4-0-ing his group is really surprising for me. His recent results suggested, that he is in a slump, but maybe he will return to being one of the best zergs again. Classic not advancing isn't really big surprise for me, since his results are really unpredictible, sometimes.

sKyHigh is huge surprise for me. His results in ProLeague wasn't very good, and he hasn't played many individual tournaments this year. But i hope he can keep up and i wish him good luck in the rest of the tournament.
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-20 13:38:27
November 20 2014 13:37 GMT
#916
On November 20 2014 22:32 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 22:30 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:24 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:21 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:11 samurai80 wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:06 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:03 Zealously wrote:
On November 20 2014 22:01 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:56 TheDwf wrote:
On November 20 2014 21:55 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
[quote]

Nop, implying only MK and skyhigh, and partially Soulkey due to his recent results.

If they're "bad" then why/how did they qualify and advance?


Once a year some "random" guy qualified and u automatically call him as a good player? Strange french terms I feel :D


Not strange you just dont know a lot about Starcraft


How did u came to that conclusion? What if I got a different point of view and cheering for guys that opposit your favorits?

I agree to this point. To be honest I also counted SkyHigh as unlikely to make it. I was wrong. So yes you can say they're not favorites for a match, BUT just don't say they're nabs when they do make it through...


Okay, maybe I was also wrong, was hoping for Flash and SK to come out of this group, Classic still doesn't deserve, he's too much overrated. Todays results even proving that more. MK advanced and that's pretty refreshing at least, but skyhigh, I've played him some online tournament and lost 1-2, and now he's advancing from such hard group beating 2-0 flash in decider, I've gotta weird feeling.

Well, you know, players can get better (or worse) over time, and won't play the same way depending on the tournament they're playing in. The fact that sKyHigh is relatively unknown has nothing to do with the fact that he showed very good games today, beat a Code S champion from this year and beat Flash. If you want to evaluate his skill level, you'd be better off taking today's games as a measurement instead of his past achievements.


I get your point. Maybe I was a bit emotional which not happens often. New faces in our scene is always a good thing (but not when thay are eliminating fan favorits). :|

By definition new faces are more or less bound to eliminate "fan favorites" at one time or another. The "omg only lucky cheeser" of today is the "fan favorite" of tomorrow.

That's pretty much Flash.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 20 2014 13:41 GMT
#917
qualifiers > popularity contest ahaha
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lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
November 20 2014 13:43 GMT
#918
I stopped watching after flash lost to soulkey Damnit what is it with flash and group stages. I am really worried now about his gsl run in 2015.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 20 2014 13:44 GMT
#919
On November 20 2014 22:43 lastride wrote:
I stopped watching after flash lost to soulkey Damnit what is it with flash and group stages. I am really worried now about his gsl run in 2015.

Flash is crashing harder than Jaedong... fist he comes 2nd at HSC... now this...
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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
November 20 2014 13:45 GMT
#920
On November 20 2014 22:43 lastride wrote:
I stopped watching after flash lost to soulkey Damnit what is it with flash and group stages. I am really worried now about his gsl run in 2015.


2015 hasn't even started and u are already worried. Care about ur nervs before switch to LotV :D
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