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Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
November 08 2014 23:43 GMT
#4601
On November 09 2014 08:42 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:40 Cheren wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:39 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:37 Cheren wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:36 liberate71 wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:34 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:27 KtJ wrote:
can somebody explain the kespa jokes?


Basically, when Kespa players switched over from BW, there was a lot of BW elitism going around where BW fanboys would claim that the current crop of SC2 players were trash BW rejects, and thus, the actually good BW players would dominate them after switching to SC2. BW did indeed have many talented RTS players switching over, so the player pool was injected with a bunch of extremely skilled contenders, so there were many instances of recently-switched BW players taking out the old-school SC2 players in tournaments. While this was happening, we had BW elitists everywhere (presumably salty because they perceived SC2 being the main cause of BW's demise) talking shit about ESF players, citing the Elephant in the Room article, and so on. One of the things these BW elitists would do is spam KESPAAAA whenever a Kespa player would win. As a result, people now parody their ridiculousness by spamming the same thing when a Kespa player loses to one of the SC2 "old guard", or whatever you want to call them.


Wow that was very well explained.

Gimmie a K!


it's a silly debate since most of the sc2 pros who aren't really young played BW for Kespa at some point.

debating whether the players who switched in 2010 or 2012 are better became a sport though.


The argument was always that the 2010 switchers were all the B teamers who couldn't cut it in BW, so they went for easy money against easy opponents.

Which is technically true, but the argument was also that the players that stayed in BW were genetically better, or something.


The B-teamers always rise up and replace the A-teamers eventually though, they would have done that regardless of whether SC2 replaced BW.


That was brought up once and they said players like Life and Taeja would have been the future of BW. I was less convinced knowing what I know of those two. They would have never made it in the kespa training.


Oh yeah, SC2 shook up the system a lot, I was just making a general statement.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
November 08 2014 23:43 GMT
#4602
Gosu transfuse.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 08 2014 23:43 GMT
#4603
This must mean triple cast tastosis+apollo for finals right?
Neosteel Enthusiast
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 08 2014 23:43 GMT
#4604
On November 09 2014 08:42 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:40 Cheren wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:39 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:37 Cheren wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:36 liberate71 wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:34 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:27 KtJ wrote:
can somebody explain the kespa jokes?


Basically, when Kespa players switched over from BW, there was a lot of BW elitism going around where BW fanboys would claim that the current crop of SC2 players were trash BW rejects, and thus, the actually good BW players would dominate them after switching to SC2. BW did indeed have many talented RTS players switching over, so the player pool was injected with a bunch of extremely skilled contenders, so there were many instances of recently-switched BW players taking out the old-school SC2 players in tournaments. While this was happening, we had BW elitists everywhere (presumably salty because they perceived SC2 being the main cause of BW's demise) talking shit about ESF players, citing the Elephant in the Room article, and so on. One of the things these BW elitists would do is spam KESPAAAA whenever a Kespa player would win. As a result, people now parody their ridiculousness by spamming the same thing when a Kespa player loses to one of the SC2 "old guard", or whatever you want to call them.


Wow that was very well explained.

Gimmie a K!


it's a silly debate since most of the sc2 pros who aren't really young played BW for Kespa at some point.

debating whether the players who switched in 2010 or 2012 are better became a sport though.


The argument was always that the 2010 switchers were all the B teamers who couldn't cut it in BW, so they went for easy money against easy opponents.

Which is technically true, but the argument was also that the players that stayed in BW were genetically better, or something.


The B-teamers always rise up and replace the A-teamers eventually though, they would have done that regardless of whether SC2 replaced BW.


That was brought up once and they said players like Life and Taeja would have been the future of BW. I was less convinced knowing what I know of those two. They would have never made it in the kespa training.

didn't oov win a WCG after they had kicked him out of the teamhouse?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 08 2014 23:43 GMT
#4605
On November 09 2014 08:41 Apoteosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:40 Boucot wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:39 Apoteosis wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:38 rice_devOurer wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:37 Apoteosis wrote:
Life has never lost a BO5.

he's lost like 10000 bo5/7 against taeja though oO


Life has lost one BO7 and multiples BO3, but he's never lost a BO5.

http://aligulac.com/players/3/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=ptzr&country=all&bestof=5&offline=offline&game=all&op=


Forgot about dat Zest win. My bad.

If only it was only Zest. He lost against Scarlett, Welmu, San, Creator as well. 8 in total in Bo5/7 offline for 31 victories.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17723 Posts
November 08 2014 23:43 GMT
#4606
On November 09 2014 08:41 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:39 Dodgin wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:34 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:27 KtJ wrote:
can somebody explain the kespa jokes?


Basically, when Kespa players switched over from BW, there was a lot of BW elitism going around where BW fanboys would claim that the current crop of SC2 players were trash BW rejects, and thus, the actually good BW players would dominate them after switching to SC2. BW did indeed have many talented RTS players switching over, so the player pool was injected with a bunch of extremely skilled contenders, so there were many instances of recently-switched BW players taking out the old-school SC2 players in tournaments. While this was happening, we had BW elitists everywhere (presumably salty because they perceived SC2 being the main cause of BW's demise) talking shit about ESF players, citing the Elephant in the Room article, and so on. One of the things these BW elitists would do is spam KESPAAAA whenever a Kespa player would win. As a result, people now parody their ridiculousness by spamming the same thing when a Kespa player loses to one of the SC2 "old guard", or whatever you want to call them.


This is a very good post. This post should be referred to whenever someone asks a question about this topic.

The proof is in all the old LR threads(mostly gsl code a in late 2012/early/mid 2013)

It was almost as annoying as the stephano's discussions whenever he got eliminated from a tournament.

the worst part was when a kespa player would lose they would just say "they need more time to learn the game, give them another 6 months/year/decade/century...."
"Expert" mods4ever.com
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
November 08 2014 23:43 GMT
#4607
On November 09 2014 08:43 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
This must mean triple cast tastosis+apollo for finals right?


Meh Tasteless is panel host, not caster.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
November 08 2014 23:43 GMT
#4608
On November 09 2014 08:43 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
This must mean triple cast tastosis+apollo for finals right?

I'm guessing Artosis Apollo
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
November 08 2014 23:43 GMT
#4609
On November 09 2014 08:43 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
This must mean triple cast tastosis+apollo for finals right?


Yeah or Apollo and someone, maybe a tricast
The curse is real
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States880 Posts
November 08 2014 23:43 GMT
#4610
Which opponent is tougher to beat for TaeJa: Artosis curse or Champagne bottle?
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 08 2014 23:43 GMT
#4611
So many people :o

[image loading]
Neosteel Enthusiast
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
November 08 2014 23:44 GMT
#4612
On November 09 2014 08:43 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
This must mean triple cast tastosis+apollo for finals right?

that's at least how they did it last time would be really cool
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 08 2014 23:44 GMT
#4613
On November 09 2014 08:43 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:41 Godwrath wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:39 Dodgin wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:34 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:27 KtJ wrote:
can somebody explain the kespa jokes?


Basically, when Kespa players switched over from BW, there was a lot of BW elitism going around where BW fanboys would claim that the current crop of SC2 players were trash BW rejects, and thus, the actually good BW players would dominate them after switching to SC2. BW did indeed have many talented RTS players switching over, so the player pool was injected with a bunch of extremely skilled contenders, so there were many instances of recently-switched BW players taking out the old-school SC2 players in tournaments. While this was happening, we had BW elitists everywhere (presumably salty because they perceived SC2 being the main cause of BW's demise) talking shit about ESF players, citing the Elephant in the Room article, and so on. One of the things these BW elitists would do is spam KESPAAAA whenever a Kespa player would win. As a result, people now parody their ridiculousness by spamming the same thing when a Kespa player loses to one of the SC2 "old guard", or whatever you want to call them.


This is a very good post. This post should be referred to whenever someone asks a question about this topic.

The proof is in all the old LR threads(mostly gsl code a in late 2012/early/mid 2013)

It was almost as annoying as the stephano's discussions whenever he got eliminated from a tournament.

the worst part was when a kespa player would lose they would just say "they need more time to learn the game, give them another 6 months/year/decade/century...."


jetlag was my favorite.
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Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
November 08 2014 23:44 GMT
#4614
On November 09 2014 08:43 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:42 JustPassingBy wrote:
Why is there such a huge delay on the German stream? D:

Cause they're not at Blizzcon? (I'm assuming?)

it's not that. i'm also behind the regular stream. the taeja tweet was posted here before i saw artosis curse him on stream.
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
November 08 2014 23:44 GMT
#4615
Why can't every series just be soO vs Taeja
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 08 2014 23:44 GMT
#4616
On November 09 2014 08:39 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:38 Xoronius wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:37 Big J wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:35 Garnet wrote:
wow if Life loses we're gonna have a non-Kespa finals. Well maybe MMA and Taeja are just a different level.

Startale isn't on Kespa, or did I miss something?

No, not yet. And even if they were, Life is certainly no elephant.

Will they be? Didn't proleague open up to non-members? So Startale wouldn't have to join?!

They don't have to, but they might. Noone knows.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 08 2014 23:44 GMT
#4617
On November 09 2014 08:43 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:41 Godwrath wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:39 Dodgin wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:34 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:27 KtJ wrote:
can somebody explain the kespa jokes?


Basically, when Kespa players switched over from BW, there was a lot of BW elitism going around where BW fanboys would claim that the current crop of SC2 players were trash BW rejects, and thus, the actually good BW players would dominate them after switching to SC2. BW did indeed have many talented RTS players switching over, so the player pool was injected with a bunch of extremely skilled contenders, so there were many instances of recently-switched BW players taking out the old-school SC2 players in tournaments. While this was happening, we had BW elitists everywhere (presumably salty because they perceived SC2 being the main cause of BW's demise) talking shit about ESF players, citing the Elephant in the Room article, and so on. One of the things these BW elitists would do is spam KESPAAAA whenever a Kespa player would win. As a result, people now parody their ridiculousness by spamming the same thing when a Kespa player loses to one of the SC2 "old guard", or whatever you want to call them.


This is a very good post. This post should be referred to whenever someone asks a question about this topic.

The proof is in all the old LR threads(mostly gsl code a in late 2012/early/mid 2013)

It was almost as annoying as the stephano's discussions whenever he got eliminated from a tournament.

the worst part was when a kespa player would lose they would just say "they need more time to learn the game, give them another 6 months/year/decade/century...."

I still love the headstart excuse, I'm sure that 2010 experience made all the difference ^_^
Glorious SEA doto
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 08 2014 23:44 GMT
#4618
On November 09 2014 08:44 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:43 Die4Ever wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:41 Godwrath wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:39 Dodgin wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:34 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:27 KtJ wrote:
can somebody explain the kespa jokes?


Basically, when Kespa players switched over from BW, there was a lot of BW elitism going around where BW fanboys would claim that the current crop of SC2 players were trash BW rejects, and thus, the actually good BW players would dominate them after switching to SC2. BW did indeed have many talented RTS players switching over, so the player pool was injected with a bunch of extremely skilled contenders, so there were many instances of recently-switched BW players taking out the old-school SC2 players in tournaments. While this was happening, we had BW elitists everywhere (presumably salty because they perceived SC2 being the main cause of BW's demise) talking shit about ESF players, citing the Elephant in the Room article, and so on. One of the things these BW elitists would do is spam KESPAAAA whenever a Kespa player would win. As a result, people now parody their ridiculousness by spamming the same thing when a Kespa player loses to one of the SC2 "old guard", or whatever you want to call them.


This is a very good post. This post should be referred to whenever someone asks a question about this topic.

The proof is in all the old LR threads(mostly gsl code a in late 2012/early/mid 2013)

It was almost as annoying as the stephano's discussions whenever he got eliminated from a tournament.

the worst part was when a kespa player would lose they would just say "they need more time to learn the game, give them another 6 months/year/decade/century...."


jetlag was my favorite.

don't people still cite that today?
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10135 Posts
November 08 2014 23:44 GMT
#4619
On November 09 2014 08:44 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:43 Die4Ever wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:41 Godwrath wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:39 Dodgin wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:34 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:27 KtJ wrote:
can somebody explain the kespa jokes?


Basically, when Kespa players switched over from BW, there was a lot of BW elitism going around where BW fanboys would claim that the current crop of SC2 players were trash BW rejects, and thus, the actually good BW players would dominate them after switching to SC2. BW did indeed have many talented RTS players switching over, so the player pool was injected with a bunch of extremely skilled contenders, so there were many instances of recently-switched BW players taking out the old-school SC2 players in tournaments. While this was happening, we had BW elitists everywhere (presumably salty because they perceived SC2 being the main cause of BW's demise) talking shit about ESF players, citing the Elephant in the Room article, and so on. One of the things these BW elitists would do is spam KESPAAAA whenever a Kespa player would win. As a result, people now parody their ridiculousness by spamming the same thing when a Kespa player loses to one of the SC2 "old guard", or whatever you want to call them.


This is a very good post. This post should be referred to whenever someone asks a question about this topic.

The proof is in all the old LR threads(mostly gsl code a in late 2012/early/mid 2013)

It was almost as annoying as the stephano's discussions whenever he got eliminated from a tournament.

the worst part was when a kespa player would lose they would just say "they need more time to learn the game, give them another 6 months/year/decade/century...."


jetlag was my favorite.

He is saving builds for PL.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 08 2014 23:44 GMT
#4620
I hate it, when caster claim go like "player a is good at xyz" and don't continue with an example why they are good at it...
Are they just saying it to sound smart or do they actually have some pasts situations in mind?
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