• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:47
CET 20:47
KST 04:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)15Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1831
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs?
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1756 users

[WCS] Global Finals 2014 Day 3 - Page 229

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 227 228 229 230 231 423 Next
Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
November 08 2014 23:39 GMT
#4561
On November 09 2014 08:38 rice_devOurer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:37 Apoteosis wrote:
Life has never lost a BO5.

he's lost like 10000 bo5/7 against taeja though oO


Life has lost one BO7 and multiples BO3, but he's never lost a BO5.
Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
November 08 2014 23:39 GMT
#4562
On November 09 2014 08:36 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:36 liberate71 wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:34 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:27 KtJ wrote:
can somebody explain the kespa jokes?


Basically, when Kespa players switched over from BW, there was a lot of BW elitism going around where BW fanboys would claim that the current crop of SC2 players were trash BW rejects, and thus, the actually good BW players would dominate them after switching to SC2. BW did indeed have many talented RTS players switching over, so the player pool was injected with a bunch of extremely skilled contenders, so there were many instances of recently-switched BW players taking out the old-school SC2 players in tournaments. While this was happening, we had BW elitists everywhere (presumably salty because they perceived SC2 being the main cause of BW's demise) talking shit about ESF players, citing the Elephant in the Room article, and so on. One of the things these BW elitists would do is spam KESPAAAA whenever a Kespa player would win. As a result, people now parody their ridiculousness by spamming the same thing when a Kespa player loses to one of the SC2 "old guard", or whatever you want to call them.


Wow that was very well explained.

Gimmie a K!


E

klose enough!
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Dwayn
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany949 Posts
November 08 2014 23:39 GMT
#4563
The game I'm most hyped for and it has to be kaelaris and day9... fml.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
November 08 2014 23:39 GMT
#4564
On November 09 2014 08:38 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:37 Big J wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:35 Garnet wrote:
wow if Life loses we're gonna have a non-Kespa finals. Well maybe MMA and Taeja are just a different level.

Startale isn't on Kespa, or did I miss something?

No, not yet. And even if they were, Life is certainly no elephant.

Life is a mammoth, he'll crush everyone
Community News
TL+ Member
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
November 08 2014 23:39 GMT
#4565
Lifeeee, win please !
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
November 08 2014 23:39 GMT
#4566
On November 09 2014 08:37 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:36 liberate71 wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:34 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:27 KtJ wrote:
can somebody explain the kespa jokes?


Basically, when Kespa players switched over from BW, there was a lot of BW elitism going around where BW fanboys would claim that the current crop of SC2 players were trash BW rejects, and thus, the actually good BW players would dominate them after switching to SC2. BW did indeed have many talented RTS players switching over, so the player pool was injected with a bunch of extremely skilled contenders, so there were many instances of recently-switched BW players taking out the old-school SC2 players in tournaments. While this was happening, we had BW elitists everywhere (presumably salty because they perceived SC2 being the main cause of BW's demise) talking shit about ESF players, citing the Elephant in the Room article, and so on. One of the things these BW elitists would do is spam KESPAAAA whenever a Kespa player would win. As a result, people now parody their ridiculousness by spamming the same thing when a Kespa player loses to one of the SC2 "old guard", or whatever you want to call them.


Wow that was very well explained.

Gimmie a K!


it's a silly debate since most of the sc2 pros who aren't really young played BW for Kespa at some point.

debating whether the players who switched in 2010 or 2012 are better became a sport though.


The argument was always that the 2010 switchers were all the B teamers who couldn't cut it in BW, so they went for easy money against easy opponents.

Which is technically true, but the argument was also that the players that stayed in BW were genetically better, or something.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
November 08 2014 23:39 GMT
#4567
On November 09 2014 08:38 Musicus wrote:
Come on Life, I want a zerg champion for a change.

soO is the champion of our hearts
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
November 08 2014 23:39 GMT
#4568
On November 09 2014 08:39 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:34 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:27 KtJ wrote:
can somebody explain the kespa jokes?


Basically, when Kespa players switched over from BW, there was a lot of BW elitism going around where BW fanboys would claim that the current crop of SC2 players were trash BW rejects, and thus, the actually good BW players would dominate them after switching to SC2. BW did indeed have many talented RTS players switching over, so the player pool was injected with a bunch of extremely skilled contenders, so there were many instances of recently-switched BW players taking out the old-school SC2 players in tournaments. While this was happening, we had BW elitists everywhere (presumably salty because they perceived SC2 being the main cause of BW's demise) talking shit about ESF players, citing the Elephant in the Room article, and so on. One of the things these BW elitists would do is spam KESPAAAA whenever a Kespa player would win. As a result, people now parody their ridiculousness by spamming the same thing when a Kespa player loses to one of the SC2 "old guard", or whatever you want to call them.


This is a very good post. This post should be referred to whenever someone asks a question about this topic.

The proof is in all the old LR threads(mostly gsl code a in late 2012/early/mid 2013)


I'd make it my signature if I could.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
November 08 2014 23:39 GMT
#4569
On November 09 2014 08:37 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:37 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:36 Dodgin wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:36 liberate71 wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:34 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:27 KtJ wrote:
can somebody explain the kespa jokes?


Basically, when Kespa players switched over from BW, there was a lot of BW elitism going around where BW fanboys would claim that the current crop of SC2 players were trash BW rejects, and thus, the actually good BW players would dominate them after switching to SC2. BW did indeed have many talented RTS players switching over, so the player pool was injected with a bunch of extremely skilled contenders, so there were many instances of recently-switched BW players taking out the old-school SC2 players in tournaments. While this was happening, we had BW elitists everywhere (presumably salty because they perceived SC2 being the main cause of BW's demise) talking shit about ESF players, citing the Elephant in the Room article, and so on. One of the things these BW elitists would do is spam KESPAAAA whenever a Kespa player would win. As a result, people now parody their ridiculousness by spamming the same thing when a Kespa player loses to one of the SC2 "old guard", or whatever you want to call them.


Wow that was very well explained.

Gimmie a K!


E


ESSSSSS

TTTTTT



A!

KESTA!

Wut?
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
November 08 2014 23:40 GMT
#4570
On November 09 2014 08:37 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:36 liberate71 wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:34 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:27 KtJ wrote:
can somebody explain the kespa jokes?


Basically, when Kespa players switched over from BW, there was a lot of BW elitism going around where BW fanboys would claim that the current crop of SC2 players were trash BW rejects, and thus, the actually good BW players would dominate them after switching to SC2. BW did indeed have many talented RTS players switching over, so the player pool was injected with a bunch of extremely skilled contenders, so there were many instances of recently-switched BW players taking out the old-school SC2 players in tournaments. While this was happening, we had BW elitists everywhere (presumably salty because they perceived SC2 being the main cause of BW's demise) talking shit about ESF players, citing the Elephant in the Room article, and so on. One of the things these BW elitists would do is spam KESPAAAA whenever a Kespa player would win. As a result, people now parody their ridiculousness by spamming the same thing when a Kespa player loses to one of the SC2 "old guard", or whatever you want to call them.


Wow that was very well explained.

Gimmie a K!


it's a silly debate since most of the sc2 pros who aren't really young played BW for Kespa at some point.

debating whether the players who switched in 2010 or 2012 are better became a sport though.


Yeah but the point was that those older sc2 pros who played BW for Kespa at some point weren't really anything special, or even were considered overall failures, and the logic of the BW elitists were that if a good SC2 player was mediocre/bad in BW, then the good BW players would absolutely dominate when they switched.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
November 08 2014 23:40 GMT
#4571
On November 09 2014 08:38 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:37 Serinox wrote:
Day9 yet again for a TaeJa match? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.........

because this match requires hype, fuck analysis. it's the 2 awesome players in a cool matchup. who cares why they do what they do? we want screamers.

But Day9 just blabbers out so much meaningless fluff, about his strategy philosophy, about the art of engagements etc etc of useless filler. Day9 on the panel is just fine, but for the actual ingame casting use the other people you have please.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 08 2014 23:40 GMT
#4572
On November 09 2014 08:39 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:38 Musicus wrote:
Come on Life, I want a zerg champion for a change.

soO is the champion of our hearts


soO lost to taeja. he is a failure
rip passion
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 08 2014 23:40 GMT
#4573
On November 09 2014 08:34 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:27 KtJ wrote:
can somebody explain the kespa jokes?


Basically, when Kespa players switched over from BW, there was a lot of BW elitism going around where BW fanboys would claim that the current crop of SC2 players were trash BW rejects, and thus, the actually good BW players would dominate them after switching to SC2. BW did indeed have many talented RTS players switching over, so the player pool was injected with a bunch of extremely skilled contenders, so there were many instances of recently-switched BW players taking out the old-school SC2 players in tournaments. While this was happening, we had BW elitists everywhere (presumably salty because they perceived SC2 being the main cause of BW's demise) talking shit about ESF players, citing the Elephant in the Room article, and so on. One of the things these BW elitists would do is spam KESPAAAA whenever a Kespa player would win. As a result, people now parody their ridiculousness by spamming the same thing when a Kespa player loses to one of the SC2 "old guard", or whatever you want to call them.

Good post, thanks for explaining!

That sounds like it was fucking annoying back then.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 08 2014 23:40 GMT
#4574
Day9 only references 2013 things lol
Neosteel Enthusiast
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 08 2014 23:40 GMT
#4575
On November 09 2014 08:39 Apoteosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:38 rice_devOurer wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:37 Apoteosis wrote:
Life has never lost a BO5.

he's lost like 10000 bo5/7 against taeja though oO


Life has lost one BO7 and multiples BO3, but he's never lost a BO5.

http://aligulac.com/players/3/results/?after=&before=&event=&race=ptzr&country=all&bestof=5&offline=offline&game=all&op=
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
November 08 2014 23:40 GMT
#4576
On November 09 2014 08:39 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:37 Cheren wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:36 liberate71 wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:34 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:27 KtJ wrote:
can somebody explain the kespa jokes?


Basically, when Kespa players switched over from BW, there was a lot of BW elitism going around where BW fanboys would claim that the current crop of SC2 players were trash BW rejects, and thus, the actually good BW players would dominate them after switching to SC2. BW did indeed have many talented RTS players switching over, so the player pool was injected with a bunch of extremely skilled contenders, so there were many instances of recently-switched BW players taking out the old-school SC2 players in tournaments. While this was happening, we had BW elitists everywhere (presumably salty because they perceived SC2 being the main cause of BW's demise) talking shit about ESF players, citing the Elephant in the Room article, and so on. One of the things these BW elitists would do is spam KESPAAAA whenever a Kespa player would win. As a result, people now parody their ridiculousness by spamming the same thing when a Kespa player loses to one of the SC2 "old guard", or whatever you want to call them.


Wow that was very well explained.

Gimmie a K!


it's a silly debate since most of the sc2 pros who aren't really young played BW for Kespa at some point.

debating whether the players who switched in 2010 or 2012 are better became a sport though.


The argument was always that the 2010 switchers were all the B teamers who couldn't cut it in BW, so they went for easy money against easy opponents.

Which is technically true, but the argument was also that the players that stayed in BW were genetically better, or something.


The B-teamers always rise up and replace the A-teamers eventually though, they would have done that regardless of whether SC2 replaced BW.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
November 08 2014 23:40 GMT
#4577
On November 09 2014 08:40 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Day9 only references 2013 things lol


Yeah I started to notice that as well
The curse is real
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
November 08 2014 23:41 GMT
#4578
On November 09 2014 08:40 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:34 HolyArrow wrote:
On November 09 2014 08:27 KtJ wrote:
can somebody explain the kespa jokes?


Basically, when Kespa players switched over from BW, there was a lot of BW elitism going around where BW fanboys would claim that the current crop of SC2 players were trash BW rejects, and thus, the actually good BW players would dominate them after switching to SC2. BW did indeed have many talented RTS players switching over, so the player pool was injected with a bunch of extremely skilled contenders, so there were many instances of recently-switched BW players taking out the old-school SC2 players in tournaments. While this was happening, we had BW elitists everywhere (presumably salty because they perceived SC2 being the main cause of BW's demise) talking shit about ESF players, citing the Elephant in the Room article, and so on. One of the things these BW elitists would do is spam KESPAAAA whenever a Kespa player would win. As a result, people now parody their ridiculousness by spamming the same thing when a Kespa player loses to one of the SC2 "old guard", or whatever you want to call them.

Good post, thanks for explaining!

That sounds like it was fucking annoying back then.

Oh god you should've been there
Community News
TL+ Member
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 08 2014 23:41 GMT
#4579
Hey MC took a map off effort once :>
Glorious SEA doto
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
November 08 2014 23:41 GMT
#4580
On November 09 2014 08:40 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 08:40 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Day9 only references 2013 things lol


Yeah I started to notice that as well

lostpassion!
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Prev 1 227 228 229 230 231 423 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 16h 13m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 361
IndyStarCraft 144
UpATreeSC 137
BRAT_OK 101
JuggernautJason68
SC2Nice 38
MindelVK 22
Railgan 5
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2084
Shuttle 617
Dewaltoss 159
firebathero 86
Killer 37
910 24
HiyA 16
NaDa 7
Dota 2
qojqva3059
League of Legends
rGuardiaN17
Counter-Strike
fl0m3502
pashabiceps1560
byalli233
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu400
Other Games
Grubby2985
Liquid`RaSZi2061
FrodaN1859
Fnx 1390
Fuzer 282
ArmadaUGS139
Hui .113
KnowMe89
DeMusliM84
XaKoH 80
QueenE75
Mew2King58
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2400
StarCraft 2
angryscii 8
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 13
• HerbMon 13
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Noizen41
League of Legends
• Nemesis2955
• Shiphtur479
Other Games
• imaqtpie1513
Upcoming Events
OSC
16h 13m
SKillous vs ArT
ArT vs Babymarine
NightMare vs TriGGeR
YoungYakov vs TBD
All Star Teams
1d 6h
INnoVation vs soO
Serral vs herO
Cure vs Solar
sOs vs Scarlett
Classic vs Clem
Reynor vs Maru
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 16h
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
All Star Teams
2 days
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-14
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.