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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
July 18 2014 16:05 GMT
#261
On July 19 2014 00:52 Musicus wrote:

Can't believe he didn't know when his match was or wait until after (the long break now) to get food...
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
July 18 2014 16:05 GMT
#262
literally as many zergs as everyone else put together in the ro32

I guess that's progress over the Ro64's more zergs than everyone else put together
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catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
July 18 2014 16:08 GMT
#263
Poor Grubby... maybe he can pull a ToD and top his group!
Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
July 18 2014 16:09 GMT
#264
I find that Stephano comment hilarious. Now that he's not on EG he can "be himself" a bit more freely again.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
July 18 2014 16:11 GMT
#265
On July 19 2014 01:05 Elyvilon wrote:
literally as many zergs as everyone else put together in the ro32

I guess that's progress over the Ro64's more zergs than everyone else put together

Well, more zergs lost than won. This line-up just happened to be extremely zerg-heavy.
VeNoM HaZ Skill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 16:13:44
July 18 2014 16:13 GMT
#266
On July 19 2014 00:56 stardog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 00:52 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/MD_Stephano/status/490161991072624640

bloody admins, it shouldn't be up to players

? When another player doesn't show up for his match, offering the other player the choice to wait (or not) is the best thing they can do. If they didn't do that, the admins would've registered an loss for Stephano automatically. You realize this, yes?
#1 MMA fan! I like you too Taeja. Still patiently waiting for the Crown Prince to become the King.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10133 Posts
July 18 2014 16:13 GMT
#267
On July 19 2014 01:05 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 00:52 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/MD_Stephano/status/490161991072624640

Can't believe he didn't know when his match was or wait until after (the long break now) to get food...

Stephano being Stephano, nothing amazing there :D
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
July 18 2014 16:13 GMT
#268
GLHF Bomber.

I'm watching the International. His group is pretty ok.
The Bomber boy
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
July 18 2014 16:14 GMT
#269
On July 19 2014 01:11 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 01:05 Elyvilon wrote:
literally as many zergs as everyone else put together in the ro32

I guess that's progress over the Ro64's more zergs than everyone else put together

Well, more zergs lost than won. This line-up just happened to be extremely zerg-heavy.

Nope, this is directly related to balance. :p
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 18 2014 16:14 GMT
#270
On July 19 2014 00:56 stardog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 00:52 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/MD_Stephano/status/490161991072624640

bloody admins, it shouldn't be up to players


Weak ass admins.
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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
July 18 2014 16:17 GMT
#271
On July 19 2014 01:13 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 00:56 stardog wrote:
On July 19 2014 00:52 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/MD_Stephano/status/490161991072624640

bloody admins, it shouldn't be up to players

? When another player doesn't show up for his match, offering the other player the choice to wait (or not) is the best thing they can do. If they didn't do that, the admins would've registered an loss for Stephano automatically. You realize this, yes?

No, not neccessarily. The admins are responsible for how the tournament is run, they have to decide, if and in case they do, how long they wait. The players shouldn't be responsible for choosing between what is best for them and what is best for the viewer, they have nothing to win and everything to lose with that decision.
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
July 18 2014 16:18 GMT
#272
Would appreciate if people would link the stream Leenock plays on later. My internet connection is pretty slow so don't want to load up streams constantly checking.
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 18 2014 16:19 GMT
#273
On July 19 2014 01:18 Rocket-Bear wrote:
Would appreciate if people would link the stream Leenock plays on later. My internet connection is pretty slow so don't want to load up streams constantly checking.


use this it's awesome http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/462329-automatic-stream-guide-dh-valencia
Zest fanboy.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 18 2014 16:21 GMT
#274
On July 19 2014 00:42 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 00:38 stuchiu wrote:
On July 19 2014 00:33 Xoronius wrote:
On July 19 2014 00:28 JanDe wrote:
Well, Velego and Zerghamdi did a great job advancig, it was not system fault but players. I am sure 90% people on TL wouldbt be close to take game away from Harstem and Uthermal and those guys did beat them. Somehw I fell like you are taking away all praise from them,

Zerghamdis win has nothing to do with the system at all, as he didn't lose to uThermal ealier and uThermal only defeated Borrex, who also lost to Zerghammdi. If the group would have had been played out in RR, the result would have been exactly the same, only with having a match of Starudst and Borrex in addition, so I don't blame anything happening there on the system.

Ofc. taking 2 maps of Harstem is a huge acccomplishment for Velego and I respect him for that, but I would just rather see the guy with 3 maps against the other advance than the guy with 2 maps (As their opponetns are not really comparable.)


How happy are you with Destiny?

I'm sorry to not be informed, but what has Destiny to do with this? Is he using RR in his tourney?


Yea, he said RR should be the norm in all tournaments.
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 18 2014 16:23 GMT
#275
On July 19 2014 01:21 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 00:42 Xoronius wrote:
On July 19 2014 00:38 stuchiu wrote:
On July 19 2014 00:33 Xoronius wrote:
On July 19 2014 00:28 JanDe wrote:
Well, Velego and Zerghamdi did a great job advancig, it was not system fault but players. I am sure 90% people on TL wouldbt be close to take game away from Harstem and Uthermal and those guys did beat them. Somehw I fell like you are taking away all praise from them,

Zerghamdis win has nothing to do with the system at all, as he didn't lose to uThermal ealier and uThermal only defeated Borrex, who also lost to Zerghammdi. If the group would have had been played out in RR, the result would have been exactly the same, only with having a match of Starudst and Borrex in addition, so I don't blame anything happening there on the system.

Ofc. taking 2 maps of Harstem is a huge acccomplishment for Velego and I respect him for that, but I would just rather see the guy with 3 maps against the other advance than the guy with 2 maps (As their opponetns are not really comparable.)


How happy are you with Destiny?

I'm sorry to not be informed, but what has Destiny to do with this? Is he using RR in his tourney?


Yea, he said RR should be the norm in all tournaments.


insulting your opponent should be mandatory too.
Zest fanboy.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
July 18 2014 16:23 GMT
#276
Didn't see Leenock's games, how did he look vs Sacsri?
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 18 2014 16:24 GMT
#277
On July 19 2014 01:23 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 01:21 stuchiu wrote:
On July 19 2014 00:42 Xoronius wrote:
On July 19 2014 00:38 stuchiu wrote:
On July 19 2014 00:33 Xoronius wrote:
On July 19 2014 00:28 JanDe wrote:
Well, Velego and Zerghamdi did a great job advancig, it was not system fault but players. I am sure 90% people on TL wouldbt be close to take game away from Harstem and Uthermal and those guys did beat them. Somehw I fell like you are taking away all praise from them,

Zerghamdis win has nothing to do with the system at all, as he didn't lose to uThermal ealier and uThermal only defeated Borrex, who also lost to Zerghammdi. If the group would have had been played out in RR, the result would have been exactly the same, only with having a match of Starudst and Borrex in addition, so I don't blame anything happening there on the system.

Ofc. taking 2 maps of Harstem is a huge acccomplishment for Velego and I respect him for that, but I would just rather see the guy with 3 maps against the other advance than the guy with 2 maps (As their opponetns are not really comparable.)


How happy are you with Destiny?

I'm sorry to not be informed, but what has Destiny to do with this? Is he using RR in his tourney?


Yea, he said RR should be the norm in all tournaments.


insulting your opponent should be mandatory too.


If players asked, I'd write shit talking for them.
Moderator
VeNoM HaZ Skill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 16:26:27
July 18 2014 16:25 GMT
#278
On July 19 2014 01:17 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 01:13 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:
On July 19 2014 00:56 stardog wrote:
On July 19 2014 00:52 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/MD_Stephano/status/490161991072624640

bloody admins, it shouldn't be up to players

? When another player doesn't show up for his match, offering the other player the choice to wait (or not) is the best thing they can do. If they didn't do that, the admins would've registered an loss for Stephano automatically. You realize this, yes?

No, not neccessarily. The admins are responsible for how the tournament is run, they have to decide, if and in case they do, how long they wait. The players shouldn't be responsible for choosing between what is best for them and what is best for the viewer, they have nothing to win and everything to lose with that decision.

Rules are rules. I'm sure the admins waited the predetermined amount of time (which I'm fairly certain has been decided beforehand) before asking Nerchio if he wanted to wait or take the win. What you're implying is that they should show favoritism to Steph by allowing him to show up late because he's more popular. If someone had taken a walkover win off of Velego and Zerghamdi, we likely wouldn't be having this conversation. And in that case would you be willing to explain to them why they are subject to the rules while others are not? Or should we just discard all the rules?

Steph knew he was playing Nerchio and didn't show up. Anybody whose ever so much as chatted to Nerch on ladder can tell you he would've take the walkover, and why shouldn't he? Steph's fault, no one else to blame.
#1 MMA fan! I like you too Taeja. Still patiently waiting for the Crown Prince to become the King.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
July 18 2014 16:26 GMT
#279
On July 19 2014 01:21 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 00:42 Xoronius wrote:
On July 19 2014 00:38 stuchiu wrote:
On July 19 2014 00:33 Xoronius wrote:
On July 19 2014 00:28 JanDe wrote:
Well, Velego and Zerghamdi did a great job advancig, it was not system fault but players. I am sure 90% people on TL wouldbt be close to take game away from Harstem and Uthermal and those guys did beat them. Somehw I fell like you are taking away all praise from them,

Zerghamdis win has nothing to do with the system at all, as he didn't lose to uThermal ealier and uThermal only defeated Borrex, who also lost to Zerghammdi. If the group would have had been played out in RR, the result would have been exactly the same, only with having a match of Starudst and Borrex in addition, so I don't blame anything happening there on the system.

Ofc. taking 2 maps of Harstem is a huge acccomplishment for Velego and I respect him for that, but I would just rather see the guy with 3 maps against the other advance than the guy with 2 maps (As their opponetns are not really comparable.)


How happy are you with Destiny?

I'm sorry to not be informed, but what has Destiny to do with this? Is he using RR in his tourney?


Yea, he said RR should be the norm in all tournaments.

Hmm, if he said that, I guess I agree with him on that particular point. I am not a fan of his usual behaviour, though, if your original question goes into that direction.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
July 18 2014 16:27 GMT
#280
Are there no games being played right now?
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