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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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Lorning
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Belgica34432 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:38 JanDe wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2014 00:33 Xoronius wrote: On July 19 2014 00:28 JanDe wrote: Well, Velego and Zerghamdi did a great job advancig, it was not system fault but players. I am sure 90% people on TL wouldbt be close to take game away from Harstem and Uthermal and those guys did beat them. Somehw I fell like you are taking away all praise from them, Zerghamdis win has nothing to do with the system at all, as he didn't lose to uThermal ealier and uThermal only defeated Borrex, who also lost to Zerghammdi. If the group would have had been played out in RR, the result would have been exactly the same, only with having a match of Starudst and Borrex in addition, so I don't blame anything happening there on the system. Ofc. taking 2 maps of Harstem is a huge acccomplishment for Velego and I respect him for that, but I would just rather see the guy with 3 maps against the other advance than the guy with 2 maps (As their opponetns are not really comparable.) I'm sorry but if Harstem lose 2 bo3's he doesen't deserve to advance in either case. Also, Velego has better overall score 4-3 to Harstem's 3-4. I agree it could be better for Harstem if system would be all to play vs all, but this system is used for years and I don't see someone is particulary harmed by it. I think you are more angry because you think GS3 would have more quality if Harstem advances but I don't think he deserves to spot more then Velego does. It could also be reverse, if Harstem lost first bo3 and won second one, they you wouldn't whine I suppose. It's Xoronius. He always whines about this group format | ||
Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:35 DJHelium wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2014 00:33 Xoronius wrote: On July 19 2014 00:28 JanDe wrote: Well, Velego and Zerghamdi did a great job advancig, it was not system fault but players. I am sure 90% people on TL wouldbt be close to take game away from Harstem and Uthermal and those guys did beat them. Somehw I fell like you are taking away all praise from them, Zerghamdis win has nothing to do with the system at all, as he didn't lose to uThermal ealier and uThermal only defeated Borrex, who also lost to Zerghammdi. If the group would have had been played out in RR, the result would have been exactly the same, only with having a match of Starudst and Borrex in addition, so I don't blame anything happening there on the system. Ofc. taking 2 maps of Harstem is a huge acccomplishment for Velego and I respect him for that, but I would just rather see the guy with 3 maps against the other advance than the guy with 2 maps (As their opponetns are not really comparable.) Do you think it would be more fair if the group had a player comparable to HyuN's skill level instead (say Revival) and Velego had beaten him? Difficult question. From a totally neutral perspective it changes nothing about the fairness, but I guess, the advancement would still have been more deseved, as it was under more comparable circumstances. I'd probably still be a bit bitter about it on the inside, but I definitly wouldn't have ranted about the system, as I did. | ||
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Jer99
Canada8158 Posts
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pigmanbear
Angola2010 Posts
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:38 stuchiu wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2014 00:33 Xoronius wrote: On July 19 2014 00:28 JanDe wrote: Well, Velego and Zerghamdi did a great job advancig, it was not system fault but players. I am sure 90% people on TL wouldbt be close to take game away from Harstem and Uthermal and those guys did beat them. Somehw I fell like you are taking away all praise from them, Zerghamdis win has nothing to do with the system at all, as he didn't lose to uThermal ealier and uThermal only defeated Borrex, who also lost to Zerghammdi. If the group would have had been played out in RR, the result would have been exactly the same, only with having a match of Starudst and Borrex in addition, so I don't blame anything happening there on the system. Ofc. taking 2 maps of Harstem is a huge acccomplishment for Velego and I respect him for that, but I would just rather see the guy with 3 maps against the other advance than the guy with 2 maps (As their opponetns are not really comparable.) How happy are you with Destiny? I'm sorry to not be informed, but what has Destiny to do with this? Is he using RR in his tourney? | ||
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Yhamm
France7248 Posts
Group Stage 2 is finished! | ||
DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:40 Xoronius wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2014 00:35 DJHelium wrote: On July 19 2014 00:33 Xoronius wrote: On July 19 2014 00:28 JanDe wrote: Well, Velego and Zerghamdi did a great job advancig, it was not system fault but players. I am sure 90% people on TL wouldbt be close to take game away from Harstem and Uthermal and those guys did beat them. Somehw I fell like you are taking away all praise from them, Zerghamdis win has nothing to do with the system at all, as he didn't lose to uThermal ealier and uThermal only defeated Borrex, who also lost to Zerghammdi. If the group would have had been played out in RR, the result would have been exactly the same, only with having a match of Starudst and Borrex in addition, so I don't blame anything happening there on the system. Ofc. taking 2 maps of Harstem is a huge acccomplishment for Velego and I respect him for that, but I would just rather see the guy with 3 maps against the other advance than the guy with 2 maps (As their opponetns are not really comparable.) Do you think it would be more fair if the group had a player comparable to HyuN's skill level instead (say Revival) and Velego had beaten him? Difficult question. From a totally neutral perspective it changes nothing about the fairness, but I guess, the advancement would still have been more deseved, as it was under more comparable circumstances. I'd probably still be a bit bitter about it on the inside, but I definitly wouldn't have ranted about the system, as I did. It could be worse, he could've lost due to a coinflip! | ||
Lorning
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Belgica34432 Posts
holy shit wtf | ||
Makro
France16890 Posts
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Jer99
Canada8158 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44895 Posts
Any chance I can change my team logo from EG to JaecontroL? | ||
TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Any chance I can change my team logo from EG to JaecontroL? Fair weather fan detected? | ||
followZeRoX
Serbia1451 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44895 Posts
I've had the EG logo for a very long time ![]() | ||
TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:46 JanDe wrote: Only 5 terran's :S Blizz has to do smth. (I am not T player myself ![]() Regarding Terran, the only real upset so far was uThermal not advancing. | ||
Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:38 JanDe wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2014 00:33 Xoronius wrote: On July 19 2014 00:28 JanDe wrote: Well, Velego and Zerghamdi did a great job advancig, it was not system fault but players. I am sure 90% people on TL wouldbt be close to take game away from Harstem and Uthermal and those guys did beat them. Somehw I fell like you are taking away all praise from them, Zerghamdis win has nothing to do with the system at all, as he didn't lose to uThermal ealier and uThermal only defeated Borrex, who also lost to Zerghammdi. If the group would have had been played out in RR, the result would have been exactly the same, only with having a match of Starudst and Borrex in addition, so I don't blame anything happening there on the system. Ofc. taking 2 maps of Harstem is a huge acccomplishment for Velego and I respect him for that, but I would just rather see the guy with 3 maps against the other advance than the guy with 2 maps (As their opponetns are not really comparable.) I'm sorry but if Harstem lose 2 bo3's he doesen't deserve to advance in either case. Also, Velego has better overall score 4-3 to Harstem's 3-4. I agree it could be better for Harstem if system would be all to play vs all, but this system is used for years and I don't see someone is particulary harmed by it. I think you are more angry because you think GS3 would have more quality if Harstem advances but I don't think he deserves to spot more then Velego does. It could also be reverse, if Harstem lost first bo3 and won second one, they you wouldn't whine I suppose. This has nothing to do with the players involved in it. I wrote just a few pages ago, that I am completely fine with Zerghamdi advancing, since his win would have been the same in RR. And yes, ofc. the system would be as bad, if Velegos and Harstems roles would be switched. The fact, that (as you say) the order of wins decides the advancemnt should be enough to disqualify it completely. Anyway, I'm sorry for having lost my composure and derailing the LR, I think we should get to more productive topics again now. | ||
Luolis
Finland7136 Posts
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Morphage
France492 Posts
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