EPT[DreamHack] Valencia 2014 - Day 1 - Page 11
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
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imre
France9263 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:16 Xoronius wrote: Harstem 3-2 Velego Harstem plays Hyun as third match Velego plays WaKa as third match. Velego advances. Congratulations GSL system, you have once again proven to be a total disaster. or velego learnt more from the 1st match than harstem. but you know logic and stuff... | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:16 Xoronius wrote: Harstem 3-2 Velego Harstem plays Hyun as third match Velego plays WaKa as third match. Velego advances. Congratulations GSL system, you have once again proven to be a total disaster. Harstem won vs Velego. Harstem loses to HyuN. Velego won vs WaKa. Velego won vs Harstem. Winning vs Waka>Losing vs HyuN. Velego advances. They count matches, not games. The system isn't perfect, but I wouldn't say total disaster. Best one we got imo. | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
D: noooo | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:24 sAsImre wrote: or velego learnt more from the 1st match than harstem. but you know logic and stuff... Let's just assume, that that would be the case: In that case Velego can think of a counter to Harstem while losing the first match, but Harstem wouldn't be able to do the same, because losing the second would already eliminate him. If you argue with logic, don't break the logic chain after half of it. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:27 Drake wrote: uthermal and harstem EPIC FAIL ^^ vs velego and zerghamdi xD to funny Very funny indeed to taunt players who are probably very disappointed to lose such a match. | ||
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followZeRoX
Serbia1449 Posts
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Sleeep
Turkey37 Posts
GO HAMDİ GO! ps: his own account got locked because of blizzard on tournament area so he is playing with some Dreamhack acc with spanish client... | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:28 TheDwf wrote: Very funny indeed to taunt players who are probably very disappointed to lose such a match. ^^ its funny BUT sad  but still its funny  | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland11798 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:28 JanDe wrote: Well, Velego and Zerghamdi did a great job advancing, it was not system fault but players. I am sure 90% people on TL wouldnt be close to take game away from Harstem and Uthermal and those guys did beat them. Somehow I fell like you are taking away all praise from them, Agreed, I was fully expecting no one from the first stage to make it past, these two are pleasant surprises. | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:28 JanDe wrote: Well, Velego and Zerghamdi did a great job advancig, it was not system fault but players. I am sure 90% people on TL wouldbt be close to take game away from Harstem and Uthermal and those guys did beat them. Somehw I fell like you are taking away all praise from them, Zerghamdis win has nothing to do with the system at all, as he didn't lose to uThermal ealier and uThermal only defeated Borrex, who also lost to Zerghammdi. If the group would have had been played out in RR, the result would have been exactly the same, only with having a match of Starudst and Borrex in addition, so I don't blame anything happening there on the system. Ofc. taking 2 maps of Harstem is a huge acccomplishment for Velego and I respect him for that, but I would just rather see the guy with 3 maps against the other advance than the guy with 2 maps (As their opponetns are not really comparable.) | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:33 Xoronius wrote: Zerghamdis win has nothing to do with the system at all, as he didn't lose to uThermal ealier and uThermal only defeated Borrex, who also lost to Zerghammdi. If the group would have had been played out in RR, the result would have been exactly the same, only with having a match of Starudst and Borrex in addition, so I don't blame anything happening there on the system. Ofc. taking 2 maps of Harstem is a huge acccomplishment for Velego and I respect him for that, but I would just rather see the guy with 3 maps against the other advance than the guy with 2 maps (As their opponetns are not really comparable.) Do you think it would be more fair if the group had a player comparable to HyuN's skill level instead (say Revival) and Velego had beaten him? What you want is some sort of extended series, giving advantage to the player coming from the winner's match. I think most people don't like the extended series format. I like how it's match wins that count, not game wins. | ||
Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:16 Xoronius wrote: Harstem 3-2 Velego Harstem plays Hyun as third match Velego plays WaKa as third match. Velego advances. Congratulations GSL system, you have once again proven to be a total disaster. this system is significantly older than the GSL the MSL Survivor and Ro32 used it, except with Bo1s. Also I think the ODT used it but that was before my time. It's also a pretty good system because it lets them be efficient with time, allowing them to do a group stage with only 5 matches total; it's basically a 4-man mini double elimination bracket. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43567 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:16 Xoronius wrote: Harstem 3-2 Velego Harstem plays Hyun as third match Velego plays WaKa as third match. Velego advances. Congratulations GSL system, you have once again proven to be a total disaster. Blame Harstem for losing to a no-name. That's what Dreamhack is all about: having half of each group contain players who are recognizable and half of each group contain up-and-coming no-name players attempting to make a breakthrough. It rarely happens but let's at least appreciate it when it does. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:33 Xoronius wrote: Zerghamdis win has nothing to do with the system at all, as he didn't lose to uThermal ealier and uThermal only defeated Borrex, who also lost to Zerghammdi. If the group would have had been played out in RR, the result would have been exactly the same, only with having a match of Starudst and Borrex in addition, so I don't blame anything happening there on the system. Ofc. taking 2 maps of Harstem is a huge acccomplishment for Velego and I respect him for that, but I would just rather see the guy with 3 maps against the other advance than the guy with 2 maps (As their opponetns are not really comparable.) How happy are you with Destiny? | ||
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followZeRoX
Serbia1449 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:33 Xoronius wrote: Zerghamdis win has nothing to do with the system at all, as he didn't lose to uThermal ealier and uThermal only defeated Borrex, who also lost to Zerghammdi. If the group would have had been played out in RR, the result would have been exactly the same, only with having a match of Starudst and Borrex in addition, so I don't blame anything happening there on the system. Ofc. taking 2 maps of Harstem is a huge acccomplishment for Velego and I respect him for that, but I would just rather see the guy with 3 maps against the other advance than the guy with 2 maps (As their opponetns are not really comparable.) I'm sorry but if Harstem lose 2 bo3's he doesen't deserve to advance in either case. Also, Velego has better overall score 4-3 to Harstem's 3-4. I agree it could be better for Harstem if system would be all to play vs all, but this system is used for years and I don't see someone is particulary harmed by it. I think you are more angry because you think GS3 would have more quality if Harstem advances but I don't think he deserves to spot more then Velego does. It could also be reverse, if Harstem lost first bo3 and won second one, they you wouldn't whine I suppose. | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
Dreamhack please | ||
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Velego 2-1 
