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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 15 2014 22:53 GMT
#3501
On June 16 2014 07:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Dreamhack Summer 2014 Power Rank performance till now:

Round of 32: 26/32 (2 no shows)
Round of 16: 12/16
Round of 8: 3/8


Down to under 50%. Wow PR get wrecked
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
June 15 2014 22:53 GMT
#3502
I'm so mad at ForGG...
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
June 15 2014 22:53 GMT
#3503
On June 16 2014 07:53 purakushi wrote:
Does she pre-translate these questions? How are these guys understanding her?


Is it the most impossible thing that he/they actually understand enough English?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 15 2014 22:53 GMT
#3504
On June 16 2014 07:52 imrusty269 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:50 JonIrenicus wrote:
upgrades had nothing to do with the winning of first over Forgg. The truth is that you can't have an army made of 33 marauders and 6 marines against 5 immortals, zealots, archons and whatever.

Now try to switch 33 marauders with 75 marines and tell me if first would have won-


Didn't First have storm?


Yea, he was microing 5 hts with a warp prism.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 15 2014 22:53 GMT
#3505
On June 16 2014 07:53 purakushi wrote:
Does she pre-translate these questions? How are these guys understanding her?


If you're a starcraft 2 pro for 3+ years and involved with international events you pick up english eventually
DrunkeN.
Profile Joined September 2010
United States406 Posts
June 15 2014 22:53 GMT
#3506
On June 16 2014 07:52 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:50 royalroadweed wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:50 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:49 SoSexy wrote:
up 50 supplies

good night


way behind in upgrades

Thats normal for tvp.


Not by that much. First's composition also hard-countered ForGG's. MMM vs. Chargelots + Immortals + HTs?



Thats Terran all game army. There are no tech switches.
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 22:54:50
June 15 2014 22:54 GMT
#3507
On June 16 2014 07:53 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:53 purakushi wrote:
Does she pre-translate these questions? How are these guys understanding her?


Is it the most impossible thing that he/they actually understand enough English?


Not really, but I haven't seen her translate anything into English for the Koreans so far.
T P Z sagi
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 15 2014 22:54 GMT
#3508
On June 16 2014 07:53 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:51 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Dreamhack Summer 2014 Power Rank performance till now:

Round of 32: 26/32 (2 no shows)
Round of 16: 12/16
Round of 8: 3/8


Down to under 50%. Wow PR get wrecked


Should have just put more Protoss in the PR. That never fails.
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Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
June 15 2014 22:54 GMT
#3509
On June 16 2014 07:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:50 JonIrenicus wrote:
upgrades had nothing to do with the winning of first over Forgg. The truth is that you can't have an army made of 33 marauders and 6 marines against 5 immortals, zealots, archons and whatever.

Now try to switch 33 marauders with 75 marines and tell me if first would have won-

Wait a second, how many SCVs and Med-Vs you are supposed to have with 33 marauders and 75 marines. It is 138 supply on it's own after all.

switch. he meant 33 marauders OR 75 marines. anyway there was storm.
NoiR
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 22:54:46
June 15 2014 22:54 GMT
#3510
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eurTsItniH
Profile Joined January 2012
887 Posts
June 15 2014 22:54 GMT
#3511
On June 16 2014 07:54 purakushi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:53 Grettin wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:53 purakushi wrote:
Does she pre-translate these questions? How are these guys understanding her?


Is it the most impossible thing that he/they actually understand enough English?


Not really, but I haven't seen her translate anything for the Koreans so far.


I think she pre-translates yeah.
Gowerly
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom916 Posts
June 15 2014 22:54 GMT
#3512
Usually some ghosts/vikings are added. A couple of them would have added a lot of value.
I will reduce you to a series of numbers.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
June 15 2014 22:54 GMT
#3513
On June 16 2014 07:52 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:50 royalroadweed wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:50 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:49 SoSexy wrote:
up 50 supplies

good night


way behind in upgrades

Thats normal for tvp.


Not by that much. First's composition also hard-countered ForGG's. MMM vs. Chargelots + Immortals + HTs?

Not really. MMM can work. You just never have to take a fight, and attack everywhere Polt style.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
June 15 2014 22:54 GMT
#3514
Wtf, ForGG found a way to lose that game? I'd turned it off. Damn.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 15 2014 22:54 GMT
#3515
Bucharest had 2 2 4 and Summer has 6 1 1
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
June 15 2014 22:54 GMT
#3516
On June 16 2014 07:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:50 JonIrenicus wrote:
upgrades had nothing to do with the winning of first over Forgg. The truth is that you can't have an army made of 33 marauders and 6 marines against 5 immortals, zealots, archons and whatever.

Now try to switch 33 marauders with 75 marines and tell me if first would have won-

Wait a second, how many SCVs and Med-Vs you are supposed to have with 33 marauders and 75 marines. It is 138 supply on it's own after all.


He said switch 33 marauders with 75 marines. Ergo, you have 6 + 75 marines and 0 marauders. This leaves you with 119 supply left to fill.

Though I doubt 81 marines would have been all that great against that much storm.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
June 15 2014 22:55 GMT
#3517
Ok fun fact guys. +3 attack immortals do 65 damage to armored, Marauders have 125 HP and +1 armor. Thus simple math proves that marauders with just +1 armor would be 2 shot by immortals because they'd take 65-2x 2 which is more then their 125. If ForGG only had 2/2 his marauders could have lived slightly longer, thus doing slightly more DPS etc.

Yes upgrades matter, especially such a huge upgrade difference.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
June 15 2014 22:55 GMT
#3518
On June 16 2014 07:53 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:52 imrusty269 wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:50 JonIrenicus wrote:
upgrades had nothing to do with the winning of first over Forgg. The truth is that you can't have an army made of 33 marauders and 6 marines against 5 immortals, zealots, archons and whatever.

Now try to switch 33 marauders with 75 marines and tell me if first would have won-


Didn't First have storm?


Yea, he was microing 5 hts with a warp prism.

"micro'ing"
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
June 15 2014 22:55 GMT
#3519
On June 16 2014 07:53 stuchiu wrote:
This isn't ZvP, you can't just roll over a Protoss with crappy upgrades because of superior army comp.

you can if you stretch him (Polt style) but first didn't build a 3rd so there was no way to do this.
Zest fanboy.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 22:55:50
June 15 2014 22:55 GMT
#3520
On June 16 2014 07:53 stuchiu wrote:
This isn't ZvP, you can't just roll over a Protoss with crappy upgrades because of superior army comp.


tell that to mana who rolled over jjakjis armies with inferior upgrades despite getting completely empd every fight the forces of aiur don't give a shit
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