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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 15 2014 22:51 GMT
#3481
On June 16 2014 07:50 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:50 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:49 SoSexy wrote:
up 50 supplies

good night


way behind in upgrades

Thats normal for tvp.


Being down 2 is normal. Being down 4 is terrible though.
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12276 Posts
June 15 2014 22:51 GMT
#3482
On June 16 2014 07:50 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:50 Mozdk wrote:
So why exactly didn't he upgrade?

Forgot it. It's late, he may be tired, whatever excuse you want.


Did I summon you?
No will to live, no wish to die
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
June 15 2014 22:51 GMT
#3483
On June 16 2014 07:50 JonIrenicus wrote:
upgrades had nothing to do with the winning of first over Forgg. The truth is that you can't have an army made of 33 marauders and 6 marines against 5 immortals, zealots, archons and whatever.

Now try to switch 33 marauders with 75 marines and tell me if first would have won-


Switch 33 marauders with 75 marines and he would have lost to the templar tech that was already out.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 22:51:54
June 15 2014 22:51 GMT
#3484
On June 16 2014 07:50 JonIrenicus wrote:
upgrades had nothing to do with the winning of first over Forgg. The truth is that you can't have an army made of 33 marauders and 6 marines against 5 immortals, zealots, archons and whatever.

Now try to switch 33 marauders with 75 marines and tell me if first would have won-

Oops nvm
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 15 2014 22:51 GMT
#3485
First vs San wcs eu final preview
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
June 15 2014 22:51 GMT
#3486
On June 16 2014 07:50 DrunkeN. wrote:
That was stupid. 3/3 chargelots such a joke.


To be fair it was 3/3 vs 1/1, its really ForGG's fault for going all-in like that.
With the amount of pressure he was putting he could have easily taken a 4th and gotten at least 2/2 of his own, with maybe 3/3 on its way or 3/4 ghosts to wreck the archons and immortals.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 22:56:26
June 15 2014 22:51 GMT
#3487
Dreamhack Summer 2014 Power Rank performance till now:

Round of 32: 26/32 (3 no shows)
Round of 16: 12/16
Round of 8: 3/8

edit: 3 no shows not 2
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
June 15 2014 22:51 GMT
#3488
On June 16 2014 07:50 JonIrenicus wrote:
upgrades had nothing to do with the winning of first over Forgg. The truth is that you can't have an army made of 33 marauders and 6 marines against 5 immortals, zealots, archons and whatever.

Now try to switch 33 marauders with 75 marines and tell me if first would have won-

Yes he would have won because he had storms and archons. Literally the upgrades were the only reason, marauders are better than marines 90% of the times, they just cost gas.
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
June 15 2014 22:52 GMT
#3489
Looks like a familiar race distribution for the RO8...

Gogo Taeja & JD!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 15 2014 22:52 GMT
#3490
On June 16 2014 07:50 JonIrenicus wrote:
upgrades had nothing to do with the winning of first over Forgg. The truth is that you can't have an army made of 33 marauders and 6 marines against 5 immortals, zealots, archons and whatever.

Now try to switch 33 marauders with 75 marines and tell me if first would have won-


First would have won.
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 15 2014 22:52 GMT
#3491
On June 16 2014 07:50 JonIrenicus wrote:
upgrades had nothing to do with the winning of first over Forgg. The truth is that you can't have an army made of 33 marauders and 6 marines against 5 immortals, zealots, archons and whatever.

Now try to switch 33 marauders with 75 marines and tell me if first would have won-

Wait a second, how many SCVs and Med-Vs you are supposed to have with 33 marauders and 75 marines. It is 138 supply on it's own after all.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
June 15 2014 22:52 GMT
#3492
On June 16 2014 07:50 JonIrenicus wrote:
upgrades had nothing to do with the winning of first over Forgg. The truth is that you can't have an army made of 33 marauders and 6 marines against 5 immortals, zealots, archons and whatever.

Now try to switch 33 marauders with 75 marines and tell me if first would have won-


Didn't First have storm?
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
Valefort
Profile Joined December 2010
France228 Posts
June 15 2014 22:52 GMT
#3493
Mana, I believe in you, there is just one zerg !
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
June 15 2014 22:52 GMT
#3494
ForGG should have upgraded, no doubt. But ForGG was up 50-60 supply during that engagement. Ridiculous
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
June 15 2014 22:52 GMT
#3495
On June 16 2014 07:50 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:50 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:49 SoSexy wrote:
up 50 supplies

good night


way behind in upgrades

Thats normal for tvp.


Not by that much. First's composition also hard-countered ForGG's. MMM vs. Chargelots + Immortals + HTs?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
June 15 2014 22:52 GMT
#3496
On June 16 2014 07:52 imrusty269 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:50 JonIrenicus wrote:
upgrades had nothing to do with the winning of first over Forgg. The truth is that you can't have an army made of 33 marauders and 6 marines against 5 immortals, zealots, archons and whatever.

Now try to switch 33 marauders with 75 marines and tell me if first would have won-


Didn't First have storm?


he did.
Zest fanboy.
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
June 15 2014 22:53 GMT
#3497
Does she pre-translate these questions? How are these guys understanding her?
T P Z sagi
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
June 15 2014 22:53 GMT
#3498
On June 16 2014 07:52 mythandier wrote:
Looks like a familiar race distribution for the RO8...

Gogo Taeja & JD!

Needs more zerg to be really uncanny.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 15 2014 22:53 GMT
#3499
This isn't ZvP, you can't just roll over a Protoss with crappy upgrades because of superior army comp.
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Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
June 15 2014 22:53 GMT
#3500
6 protoss 1 zerg 1 terran in round of 8...

lol...
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