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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
June 14 2014 11:52 GMT
#201
On June 14 2014 20:48 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 20:47 Xoronius wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:44 Silvanel wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:41 Xoronius wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:38 Penev wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:17 Silvanel wrote:
Dreamhack adopted shitty GSL style system for goups? (judging from liquipedia results) So sad......I loved Dreamhack for precisaly this reason-that they reject this unfair system. But i suppose all good things come to and end eveventually.

You are so wrong

After considering you argumentation structure, which is full of content and brings multiple reasons, why he is wrong, I still disagree with you.


Lets not go into this discussion again. The issue was discussed deeply and throughlty. Its not a place to go into that debacle again. I just felt like expresseing my dissapointment.

People still have the wrong opinion on this, I will not stop discussing this, until RR is back to all tournaments. But this is, as you say, the wrong place for it. I'm available via PM though.


Isn't it impossible, by definiton, for an opinion to be wrong?

It's my opinion that Life is awful and shouldn't be in the top 50.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 14 2014 11:53 GMT
#202
On June 14 2014 20:52 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 20:48 Zealously wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:47 Xoronius wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:44 Silvanel wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:41 Xoronius wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:38 Penev wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:17 Silvanel wrote:
Dreamhack adopted shitty GSL style system for goups? (judging from liquipedia results) So sad......I loved Dreamhack for precisaly this reason-that they reject this unfair system. But i suppose all good things come to and end eveventually.

You are so wrong

After considering you argumentation structure, which is full of content and brings multiple reasons, why he is wrong, I still disagree with you.


Lets not go into this discussion again. The issue was discussed deeply and throughlty. Its not a place to go into that debacle again. I just felt like expresseing my dissapointment.

People still have the wrong opinion on this, I will not stop discussing this, until RR is back to all tournaments. But this is, as you say, the wrong place for it. I'm available via PM though.


Isn't it impossible, by definiton, for an opinion to be wrong?

It's my opinion that Life is awful and shouldn't be in the top 50.

That's fact, not opinion
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TL+ Member
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4732 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-14 11:56:24
June 14 2014 11:54 GMT
#203
On June 14 2014 20:45 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 20:41 Xoronius wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:38 Penev wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:17 Silvanel wrote:
Dreamhack adopted shitty GSL style system for goups? (judging from liquipedia results) So sad......I loved Dreamhack for precisaly this reason-that they reject this unfair system. But i suppose all good things come to and end eveventually.

You are so wrong

After considering you argumentation structure, which is full of content and brings multiple reasons, why he is wrong, I still disagree with you.


In fairness, the original post hardly provided any illustrious rhetoric or argument worth considering, either.


Like i said before the issue was discussed deeply before. No reason to repeat it. The GSL group style lovers never had any good arguments:

for GSL style:
1) Fast-no tiebreakers
2) No confusion as to how tiebreakers works-because its apparntly too hard to understand for some
2) No meaningless games

for normal style
1) Fair (GSL style isnt fair which can be mathematicaly proved)

So its a question wheater You are ok with giving unfair advantage to some players in order to have smooth tournament that is easy to understand for people with IQ below 90. For me its not ok.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 14 2014 11:55 GMT
#204
On June 14 2014 20:52 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 20:48 Zealously wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:47 Xoronius wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:44 Silvanel wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:41 Xoronius wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:38 Penev wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:17 Silvanel wrote:
Dreamhack adopted shitty GSL style system for goups? (judging from liquipedia results) So sad......I loved Dreamhack for precisaly this reason-that they reject this unfair system. But i suppose all good things come to and end eveventually.

You are so wrong

After considering you argumentation structure, which is full of content and brings multiple reasons, why he is wrong, I still disagree with you.


Lets not go into this discussion again. The issue was discussed deeply and throughlty. Its not a place to go into that debacle again. I just felt like expresseing my dissapointment.

People still have the wrong opinion on this, I will not stop discussing this, until RR is back to all tournaments. But this is, as you say, the wrong place for it. I'm available via PM though.


Isn't it impossible, by definiton, for an opinion to be wrong?

It's my opinion that Life is awful and shouldn't be in the top 50.

damn, get some help with your depression bro
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
June 14 2014 11:56 GMT
#205
On June 14 2014 20:48 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 20:47 Xoronius wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:44 Silvanel wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:41 Xoronius wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:38 Penev wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:17 Silvanel wrote:
Dreamhack adopted shitty GSL style system for goups? (judging from liquipedia results) So sad......I loved Dreamhack for precisaly this reason-that they reject this unfair system. But i suppose all good things come to and end eveventually.

You are so wrong

After considering you argumentation structure, which is full of content and brings multiple reasons, why he is wrong, I still disagree with you.


Lets not go into this discussion again. The issue was discussed deeply and throughlty. Its not a place to go into that debacle again. I just felt like expresseing my dissapointment.

People still have the wrong opinion on this, I will not stop discussing this, until RR is back to all tournaments. But this is, as you say, the wrong place for it. I'm available via PM though.


Isn't it impossible, by definiton, for an opinion to be wrong?

Yes, it is. I stand by what I said, though, I'm a bit fanatical in format dicussion. Penev, since you answered: I was told by Plexa to not have this discussion in active LR, if you are interested in an exchange of thoughts about that, it would have to be via PM, but I don't want to waste your time, if you are not, so I'll leave it up to you to message me.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-14 11:57:51
June 14 2014 11:57 GMT
#206
On June 14 2014 20:54 Silvanel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 20:45 Zealously wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:41 Xoronius wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:38 Penev wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:17 Silvanel wrote:
Dreamhack adopted shitty GSL style system for goups? (judging from liquipedia results) So sad......I loved Dreamhack for precisaly this reason-that they reject this unfair system. But i suppose all good things come to and end eveventually.

You are so wrong

After considering you argumentation structure, which is full of content and brings multiple reasons, why he is wrong, I still disagree with you.


In fairness, the original post hardly provided any illustrious rhetoric or argument worth considering, either.


Like i said before the issue was discussed deeply before. No reason to repeat it. The GSL group style lovers never had any good arguments:

for GSL style:
1) Fast-no tiebreakers
2) No confusion as to how tibreakers works-because its apparntly too hard to understand for some
2) No meaningless games

for normal style
1) Fair (GSL style isnt fair which can be mathematicaly proved)

So its a question wheater You are ok with giving unfair advantage to some players in order to have smooth tournament that is easy to understand for people with IQ below 90. For me its not ok.

what unfair advantage? you just have to win 2 bo3's. I consider it more fair than RR where people who sandbag after losing their chances to advance screw over other guys

i guess i should cut it then
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
June 14 2014 11:57 GMT
#207
On June 14 2014 19:22 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 19:19 Squat wrote:
Well if Maddelisk lost the first series, then won vs her second opponent and then played Spacemarine, who is protoss for some reason, in the final match it makes sense,


Oh, he wouldn't be the first to do that bit. There are a fair number of players who name themselves something that suggests a completely different race. It'll still never be as funny as the Brazillian Terran for Kaos Latin Gamers who's name is...Terran.


Reminds me of a Protoss who got owned by Boxer going for a Nuke + Science Vessel rush, EMP'ing the Nexus before landing the Nuke to insta-kill it. Twice. His name was Terr@n-[Nes]. Another spectator in the same game was called ZerG-[Nes]. Must have been a very imaginative clan.
Cute
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 14 2014 12:00 GMT
#208
Both formats have their ups and downs but I don't like that one has become the norm and is to be seen pretty much everywhere. DH sold out yo
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28487 Posts
June 14 2014 12:01 GMT
#209
On June 14 2014 20:57 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 20:54 Silvanel wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:45 Zealously wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:41 Xoronius wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:38 Penev wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:17 Silvanel wrote:
Dreamhack adopted shitty GSL style system for goups? (judging from liquipedia results) So sad......I loved Dreamhack for precisaly this reason-that they reject this unfair system. But i suppose all good things come to and end eveventually.

You are so wrong

After considering you argumentation structure, which is full of content and brings multiple reasons, why he is wrong, I still disagree with you.


In fairness, the original post hardly provided any illustrious rhetoric or argument worth considering, either.


Like i said before the issue was discussed deeply before. No reason to repeat it. The GSL group style lovers never had any good arguments:

for GSL style:
1) Fast-no tiebreakers
2) No confusion as to how tibreakers works-because its apparntly too hard to understand for some
2) No meaningless games

for normal style
1) Fair (GSL style isnt fair which can be mathematicaly proved)

So its a question wheater You are ok with giving unfair advantage to some players in order to have smooth tournament that is easy to understand for people with IQ below 90. For me its not ok.

what unfair advantage? you just have to win 2 bo3's. I consider it more fair than RR where people who sandbag after losing their chances to advance screw over other guys

i guess i should cut it then

I pm'd Xoronius. I'm curious of what the explanation will be..
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-14 12:02:34
June 14 2014 12:01 GMT
#210
On June 14 2014 21:00 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Both formats have their ups and downs but I don't like that one has become the norm and is to be seen pretty much everywhere. DH sold out yo

Yeah, I want to see a cointoss again. So much emotion last time

Daychaud; qu'est-ce que c'est tu fait? oooohlala
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 14 2014 12:02 GMT
#211
On June 14 2014 21:00 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Both formats have their ups and downs but I don't like that one has become the norm and is to be seen pretty much everywhere. DH sold out yo

That's LucifroN's legacy to SC2.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
June 14 2014 12:02 GMT
#212
They sold out by adopting a smoother and more easily understandable system? Why is something being the norm a bad thing? If A is better than B, we should use A and ignore B.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
June 14 2014 12:02 GMT
#213
On June 14 2014 20:22 Aeromi wrote:
(T)Dayshi 2 - 0 (P)sOs


wow 3-1 now.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
June 14 2014 12:04 GMT
#214
On June 14 2014 21:02 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 20:22 Aeromi wrote:
(T)Dayshi 2 - 0 (P)sOs


wow 3-1 now.


Cross server TvP so good
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 14 2014 12:04 GMT
#215
On June 14 2014 21:02 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 20:22 Aeromi wrote:
(T)Dayshi 2 - 0 (P)sOs


wow 3-1 now.

not sure if sos was serious but the last game had shown that he is not at the level of has yet
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 14 2014 12:05 GMT
#216
On June 14 2014 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 21:02 Crot4le wrote:
On June 14 2014 20:22 Aeromi wrote:
(T)Dayshi 2 - 0 (P)sOs


wow 3-1 now.


Cross server TvP so good

Lol! dae
The Bomber boy
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 14 2014 12:06 GMT
#217
sOs was being filmed for the movie during the match. We'll see him losing. KeSPA jail incoming.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
June 14 2014 12:07 GMT
#218
On June 14 2014 21:06 Boucot wrote:
sOs was being filmed for the movie during the match. We'll see him losing. KeSPA jail incoming.


He can share a cell with TY and Flash
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
June 14 2014 12:07 GMT
#219
can anyone link me another stream. the one on millenium gives me ads every 15 seconds
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 14 2014 12:10 GMT
#220
does Rifkin live in a space shuttle?
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
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