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Rain broke the curse already.
Anyway, chance that Zest won't get at least one SKT T1 guy in Ro16 is little, considering that SKT T1 are almost 50% :D
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Rain broke the curse already. Anyway, chance that Zest won't get at least one SKT T1 guy in Ro16 is little, considering that SKT T1 are almost 50% :D | ||
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WTCO
United States646 Posts
On May 23 2014 22:02 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Only Polt will qualify through Code A and even it is arguable. It's not as easy for Bomber in WCS America as some can think and even harder for TJ. You don't think Polt could make it over these lower tier Protoss and Zerg like Paralyze, Tails, Ragnarok, etc.? Not saying he'd necessarily be a contender to win it all but I think he could at least get to Code S pretty easily. | ||
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Vindicare605
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klup
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Pandemona
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vult
United States9400 Posts
Come on Innovation!! Bring it home! | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16090 Posts
On May 23 2014 22:06 WTCO wrote: You don't think Polt could make it over these lower tier Protoss and Zerg like Paralyze, Tails, Ragnarok, etc.? Not saying he'd necessarily be a contender to win it all but I think he could at least get to Code S pretty easily. Even when he's arguably the most successful Terran of the the last year he still manages to be underrated. It's truly remarkable. | ||
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DrPandaPhD
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On May 23 2014 22:06 Pandemona wrote: No gold shenanigans I was about to say "wonder if you could just yolo there with like 8 drones since it's so common. But then he didn't do it so I am thankfully Leenock is a better strategist than myself. | ||
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TheOne26
Australia142 Posts
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On May 23 2014 22:00 Tanzklaue wrote: that pretty okay was an understatement. dominating the foreign scene for one year is huge, he won a lot o tournaments in that phase. if you say that his career wasn't successful because he stopped being able to compete at the highest level of play after doing so for 2 years straight, then that's just plain wrong. then you would have to say that stephano wasn't successful because he didn't dominate in his entire career either. I do know that that was an understatement. Just don't like that kind of rethorical stuff because it destroys a constructive discussion. I understand your point, but I still think that neither me or you are "plain wrong" at any point. It's just a matter of opinion. I see things this way, you see it your way. Take Mvp as an example: yes, he dropped out of Ro32 just now, but before, he won 4 GSLs, WCS EU. Nestea: totally washed out, but managing to play WCS AM Premier over and over again. Idra couldn't do that. As for Stephano: still Premier leagues, tournament appearences with a regular potential of upsets due to his unique and somewhat abusive playstyle, which also means success. Or, as we have here: Innovation. Dominating for a time, now still being successful by potentially going into Ro16 in Code S. ToD: being a not-so-great, but somehow consinstent EU protoss. Take Nerchio: after being referred to over and over again as a patchzerg and being known for being a top-notch foreign zerg, he still manages to play WCS premier, in the I guess weakest region, EU. All of them might have their respective limits, but they try to overcome them over and over again, while IdrA at some point didn't even try and blamed everything on the game. That's why I say he's not a successful player! Do you really think he would've parted ways with StarCraft if he considered himself being a successful player, being in a comfort zone while having to do with that game? Maybe I should state that I'm not only talking about achievements, but also about the stuff that makes you a decent, solid player with a reputation of being able to win stuff. IdrA wasn't able to win stuff after 2011, absolutely not. While other players considered once to be "the best" (eg naniwa at IEM, or Stephano in LSC, or Scarlett pretty much anywhere) are always considered to win it, because it is known that they are (speaking of naniwa, were) absolutely willing to do so, willing to overcome their limits. Simplified, that text wall is an explanation of why I call IdrA unsuccessful, and after reading it, you might understand why I do not agree to call him that. | ||
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Yello
Germany7411 Posts
On May 23 2014 22:07 TheOne26 wrote: why does artosis keep saying terrans are doing better? i dont see how that statement holds true for any recent terran results... against Protoss they are actually doing better overall (better winrate). They are losing against Zergs now though, so still no big results by Terrans yet | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On May 23 2014 22:06 WTCO wrote: You don't think Polt could make it over these lower tier Protoss and Zerg like Paralyze, Tails, Ragnarok, etc.? Not saying he'd necessarily be a contender to win it all but I think he could at least get to Code S pretty easily. Considering how hard Polt can choke - i can at least doubt. And Polt's ability against Zergs nowdays, considering general level of Korean Z is arguable as well. On May 23 2014 22:08 Yello wrote: against Protoss they are actually doing better overall (better winrate). They are losing against Zergs now though, so still no big results by Terrans yet Z>T>P>Z. | ||
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AWalker9
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GumBa
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Vindicare605
United States16090 Posts
On May 23 2014 22:07 TheOne26 wrote: why does artosis keep saying terrans are doing better? i dont see how that statement holds true for any recent terran results... He always tries to end with an optimistic note when he goes on these kinds of mini rants, even if they aren't true at least from what I've noticed. | ||
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