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29%
★★★- Good game (6)
43%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
7%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
14%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend PartinG vs ByuL Game 1?
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Poll: Recommend PartinG vs ByuL Game 2?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
2%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (2)
3%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (18)
29%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (42)
67%
63 total votes
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Poll: Recommend PartinG vs ByuL Game 3?
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4%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
4%
★★★- Good game (7)
30%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (6)
26%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (8)
35%
23 total votes
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★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
27%
★★★- Good game (6)
55%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
9%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Solar vs SuperNova Game 1?
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Poll: Recommend Solar vs SuperNova Game 2?
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1%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (1)
1%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
2%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (103)
96%
107 total votes
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Poll: Recommend Solar vs SuperNova Game 3?
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4%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (5)
11%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (30)
65%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (9)
20%
46 total votes
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★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
17%
★★★- Good game (1)
4%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
4%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
8%
24 total votes
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55%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
10%
★★★- Good game (3)
15%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
5%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
15%
20 total votes
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Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (6)
43%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
36%
★★★- Good game (1)
7%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
7%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
7%
14 total votes
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★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
9%
★★★- Good game (1)
9%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (7)
64%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
18%
11 total votes
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6%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
24%
★★★- Good game (1)
6%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (9)
53%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
12%
17 total votes
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Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?
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0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
40%
★★★- Good game (6)
60%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
10 total votes
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★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (5)
33%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (9)
60%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
0%
15 total votes
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?
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0%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
60%
★★★- Good game (3)
30%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
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10%
10 total votes
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (14)
19%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
3%
★★★- Good game (0)
0%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
3%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (55)
75%
73 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3?
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- PartinG is at ~ 22.4 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 59.46 % of the time PartinG wins and their chances go up to ~ 30.94 %. ~ 40.54 % of the time PartinG loses and their chances go down to ~ 9.88 %. ------------------------------------------------- - SuperNova is at ~ 1.15 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 36.52 % of the time SuperNova wins and their chances go up to ~ 2.4 %. ~ 63.48 % of the time SuperNova loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.43 %. ------------------------------------------------- - ByuL is at ~ 2.99 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 45.67 % of the time ByuL wins and their chances go up to ~ 5.31 %. ~ 54.33 % of the time ByuL loses and their chances go down to ~ 1.05 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Solar is at ~ 9.82 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 58.36 % of the time Solar wins and their chances go up to ~ 14.13 %. ~ 41.64 % of the time Solar loses and their chances go down to ~ 3.78 %.
This seems like a pretty tough group to pick. uhhh I guess PartinG and ByuL over Solar. Idk if Supernova has what it takes to get out of this group. He can be all over the place with his play. If he shows up on one of his good days he could even win it.
GSL S2 Code S - PartinG is at ~ 22.23 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 59.33 % of the time PartinG wins and their chances go up to ~ 30.76 %. ~ 40.67 % of the time PartinG loses and their chances go down to ~ 9.8 %. ------------------------------------------------- - SuperNova is at ~ 1.13 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 36.46 % of the time SuperNova wins and their chances go up to ~ 2.36 %. ~ 63.54 % of the time SuperNova loses and their chances go down to ~ 0.43 %. ------------------------------------------------- - ByuL is at ~ 2.99 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 45.62 % of the time ByuL wins and their chances go up to ~ 5.29 %. ~ 54.38 % of the time ByuL loses and their chances go down to ~ 1.05 %. ------------------------------------------------- - Solar is at ~ 10.12 % chances for top 16 points of 2014 ~ 58.59 % of the time Solar wins and their chances go up to ~ 14.51 %. ~ 41.41 % of the time Solar loses and their chances go down to ~ 3.92 %.
~ 36.46 % of the time SuperNova wins and their chances go up to ~ 2.36 %.
Does "SuperNova wins" mean that he advances in this case?
Yes. It means that ~36.46% of the time Supernova advances from this group. And when he does advance from the group then his chances to qualify for Blizzcon go up to ~2.36%.
If Supernova is on a good day, he can take the group. Unfortunately, if he's not on fire, I fear his excellent Z and P opponents will be too much for him to handle. I'd really like to see him advancing though, keeping T hope alive.
It's a close toss up between byul or solar for second, but I think byul will be able to take it. Would love to see supernova get out of this group though of course.
I really have no idea in this group. Last time I saw Supernova play, he looked like he had levelled up. I think PartinG for sure and the rest is anyone's guess. Whoever Artosis doesn't support, probably?
PartinG vs ByuL is a nice test for ByuL and how "good" he is. SKTT1 wont be playing play offs until later on next week so PartinG probably has had time to prepare for this group. When PartinG prepares he is normally choo chooing his way to victory in PvZ. If ByuL tops this group then his hype train is legit, but until then i have my doubts
supernova is awesome. He's been here for such a long time, always a good player but never the best. I want him to advance and make a GSL final for once, that would be really cool
This season final: Maru vs Supernova. I can dream, right?
supernova is awesome. He's been here for such a long time, always a good player but never the best. I want him to advance and make a GSL final for once, that would be really cool
This season final: Maru vs Supernova. I can dream, right?
supernova is awesome. He's been here for such a long time, always a good player but never the best. I want him to advance and make a GSL final for once, that would be really cool
This season final: Maru vs Supernova. I can dream, right?
I want Parting to make it out of the group, and I am confident he will. I hope Supernova can make it too, but I think that one is much harder to judge.
Pah, what happened to the "TERRANNNNN" rallying cry? Now Tastosis going for the full reverse cursing of the Terran race, but that WON'T work!!! Artosis broke his cursing power a while ago, and Tasteless never had any
On May 16 2014 18:03 ACrow wrote: Pah, what happened to the "TERRANNNNN" rallying cry? Now Tastosis going for the full reverse cursing of the Terran race, but that WON'T work!!! Artosis broke his cursing power a while ago, and Tasteless never had any
Scratch Artosis and Tasteless deep enough and you'll find true sons of Aiur.
On May 16 2014 18:22 Pandemona wrote: Wait you didn't like shooter? The sniper movie with Wahlberg ya?
Yeah, that one. Just not my cup of tea I guess, I didn't like the Bourne franchise either.
Yeah i don't like that franchise either, never even bought myself to watch one. But i like films about marksman, damn always a dream of mine to be that "sniper" guy :3
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
29%
★★★- Good game (6)
43%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
7%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
14%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend PartinG vs ByuL Game 1?
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On May 16 2014 18:25 Yello wrote: wtf I blinked and the game is over? What the hell happened?
Parting made Stalkers and Sentries. Byul made a few Roaches with burrow. It wasn't enough.
ah okay thanks. Normally Byul is pretty good at defending early game stuff but Parting is also really good at executing timings. Well let's hope we'll see some good stuff now
On May 16 2014 18:29 aZealot wrote: 3 Hatch by 3 minutes.
1HPM is a good consistency imo
Indeed. I'm just thinking back to when 3 hatch by 4.30 was reckoned greedy - let alone the norm!
I get those flashbacks a lot as well. Sometimes I just feel it in the middle of a game and suddenly I'm building marine-tank in TvZ and then I lose horribly to mutas
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (2)
3%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (18)
29%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (42)
67%
63 total votes
Your vote: Recommend PartinG vs ByuL Game 2?
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Poll: Recommend PartinG vs ByuL Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
4%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
4%
★★★- Good game (7)
30%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (6)
26%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (8)
35%
23 total votes
Your vote: Recommend PartinG vs ByuL Game 3?
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well that happens when protoss start to micro : it finally gets entertaining to watch again (and awesome harassement with only 2 units left) awesome done by parting
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0%
★★★- Good game (2)
3%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (18)
29%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (42)
67%
63 total votes
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Poll: Recommend PartinG vs ByuL Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (1)
4%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
4%
★★★- Good game (7)
30%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (6)
26%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (8)
35%
23 total votes
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God, I just tuned in to see PartinG fail his initial rush into destroy Byul trough superior multi-tasking. That was the sickest thing I've ever seen a Protoss do.
Bromortal frat is the best frat there is. Great micro from Parting. I didn't expect him to actually win that game. Even with a bad engagement at the end, he still crushed it :O
On May 16 2014 18:40 Destructicon wrote: God, I just tuned in to see PartinG fail his initial rush into destroy Byul trough superior multi-tasking. That was the sickest thing I've ever seen a Protoss do.
Wasn't really multitasking, just godly micro coupled with Byul not making enough queens.
On May 16 2014 18:40 Destructicon wrote: God, I just tuned in to see PartinG fail his initial rush into destroy Byul trough superior multi-tasking. That was the sickest thing I've ever seen a Protoss do.
Wasn't really multitasking, just godly micro coupled with Byul not making enough queens.
Mostly not, but there was one point where he was warp prism microing his immortals at Byul's base while forcefielding and microing his immortals at home. Perfectly.
On May 16 2014 18:39 McBrungus wrote: ...That is absolutely terrifying to watch as a Zerg.
At least its comforting knowing that not everyone can do that
well yeah. but if you concentrate on it, it is not even that hard. There are tons of micro maps where you just have to do that. Note that behind all that he didn't do anything in his base so he JUST had to concentrate on micro. Not saying what he did wasn't awesome. it was monstrously awesome but it also is something other players still could do with some spare apm and it just proves that toss isn't even at its limits of being played.
Such micro is more common at terrans, where we already saw Maru, Marineking and others doing that. Maru proved that several times, for example holding a 2 base zergling/baneling allin with just 1 marauder and 2 marines
On May 16 2014 18:40 Destructicon wrote: God, I just tuned in to see PartinG fail his initial rush into destroy Byul trough superior multi-tasking. That was the sickest thing I've ever seen a Protoss do.
Wasn't really multitasking, just godly micro coupled with Byul not making enough queens.
He kept on top of his macro as well as the situation allowed. Kept the front line reinforced. It's not exactly three-separate-battles-at-the-same-time level of multitasking, but still impressive.
On May 16 2014 18:40 Destructicon wrote: God, I just tuned in to see PartinG fail his initial rush into destroy Byul trough superior multi-tasking. That was the sickest thing I've ever seen a Protoss do.
Wasn't really multitasking, just godly micro coupled with Byul not making enough queens.
He kept on top of his macro as well as the situation allowed. Kept the front line reinforced. It's not exactly three-separate-battles-at-the-same-time level of multitasking, but still impressive.
Exactly this. And that micro, oh man was that ever sexy.
On May 16 2014 18:40 GumBa wrote: This is why Parting is in my small list of protosses I dont hate
Who are the others?
I like Dear Parting sOs and I acknowledge Classic Rain herO
wrong HerO
Funny, I like Classic, Rain and HerO, acknowledge Parting and Dear - and I absolutely hate sOs. (whelp, not too long ago, I hated PartinG, too).
Edit: completely forgot about Zest. Make it HerO, Zest and Classic for "I like" and leave the rest alone. Oh well, I don't like Classic as well now. It's all about Zest and HerO. Or.. HerO. HERO!
On May 16 2014 18:40 Destructicon wrote: God, I just tuned in to see PartinG fail his initial rush into destroy Byul trough superior multi-tasking. That was the sickest thing I've ever seen a Protoss do.
Wasn't really multitasking, just godly micro coupled with Byul not making enough queens.
He kept on top of his macro as well as the situation allowed. Kept the front line reinforced. It's not exactly three-separate-battles-at-the-same-time level of multitasking, but still impressive.
Yep, kept on top of his warp cycles, hit chronos on gates, and warp ins at pylons which means not microing the battles.
Almost any other Protoss would have lost after that failed first attack. Parting won that game through superior skill.
On May 16 2014 18:39 McBrungus wrote: ...That is absolutely terrifying to watch as a Zerg.
At least its comforting knowing that not everyone can do that
well yeah. but if you concentrate on it, it is not even that hard. There are tons of micro maps where you just have to do that. Note that behind all that he didn't do anything in his base so he JUST had to concentrate on micro. Not saying what he did wasn't awesome. it was monstrously awesome but it also is something other players still could do with some spare apm and it just proves that toss isn't even at its limits of being played.
Such micro is more common at terrans, where we already saw Maru, Marineking and others doing that. Maru proved that several times, for example holding a 2 base zergling/baneling allin with just 1 marauder and 2 marines
Well of course but it is nice to see good protoss micro once in a while.
On May 16 2014 18:53 ACrow wrote: How did solar know to send his drone there? Just a combination of star sense and the most obvious proxy location? Poor Suno, bad bad bad start.
On May 16 2014 18:53 ACrow wrote: How did solar know to send his drone there? Just a combination of star sense and the most obvious proxy location? Poor Suno, bad bad bad start.
On May 16 2014 18:40 Destructicon wrote: God, I just tuned in to see PartinG fail his initial rush into destroy Byul trough superior multi-tasking. That was the sickest thing I've ever seen a Protoss do.
Wasn't really multitasking, just godly micro coupled with Byul not making enough queens.
He kept on top of his macro as well as the situation allowed. Kept the front line reinforced. It's not exactly three-separate-battles-at-the-same-time level of multitasking, but still impressive.
Yep, kept on top of his warp cycles, hit chronos on gates, and warp ins at pylons which means not microing the battles.
Almost any other Protoss would have lost after that failed first attack. Parting won that game through superior skill.
for that he gets a small applause: flanking,positioning of important units, EMPing microing, avoiding storms, focussing units and macroing at home/teching/calling down mules and making buildings, bringing your reinforcements safe across the map... I am not really impressed by a protoss that does some micro and some macro behind it, this should be within the 200+ APM range every pro player has. At least every terran in diamond and above can do that.
Although I have to give it to parting that he did it without mistakes and he did it although toss normally don't need to do it, so it was impressive and entertaining, but i hope every protoss will finally learn to do some micro while macroing, to abuse units more, to make games more impressive again
On May 16 2014 18:53 ACrow wrote: How did solar know to send his drone there? Just a combination of star sense and the most obvious proxy location? Poor Suno, bad bad bad start.
SoOlar?
edit: you bastard.
huehue, noticed my typo right after having clicked the post button
On May 16 2014 18:40 Destructicon wrote: God, I just tuned in to see PartinG fail his initial rush into destroy Byul trough superior multi-tasking. That was the sickest thing I've ever seen a Protoss do.
Wasn't really multitasking, just godly micro coupled with Byul not making enough queens.
He kept on top of his macro as well as the situation allowed. Kept the front line reinforced. It's not exactly three-separate-battles-at-the-same-time level of multitasking, but still impressive.
Yep, kept on top of his warp cycles, hit chronos on gates, and warp ins at pylons which means not microing the battles.
Almost any other Protoss would have lost after that failed first attack. Parting won that game through superior skill.
for that he gets a small applause: flanking,positioning of important units, EMPing microing, avoiding storms, focussing units and macroing at home/teching/calling down mules and making buildings, bringing your reinforcements safe across the map... I am not really impressed by a protoss that does some micro and some macro behind it, this should be within the 200+ APM range every pro player has. At least every terran in diamond and above can do that.
Although I have to give it to parting that he did it without mistakes and he did it although toss normally don't need to do it, so it was impressive and entertaining, but i hope every protoss will finally learn to do some micro while macroing, to abuse units more, to make games more impressive again
Oh, please. Not another post, in a PvZ game no less, from a QQ Terran who thinks that Sisyphus had it easy.
On May 16 2014 18:39 McBrungus wrote: ...That is absolutely terrifying to watch as a Zerg.
At least its comforting knowing that not everyone can do that
well yeah. but if you concentrate on it, it is not even that hard. There are tons of micro maps where you just have to do that. Note that behind all that he didn't do anything in his base so he JUST had to concentrate on micro. Not saying what he did wasn't awesome. it was monstrously awesome but it also is something other players still could do with some spare apm and it just proves that toss isn't even at its limits of being played.
Such micro is more common at terrans, where we already saw Maru, Marineking and others doing that. Maru proved that several times, for example holding a 2 base zergling/baneling allin with just 1 marauder and 2 marines
Well of course but it is nice to see good protoss micro once in a while.
absolutely man. I am really blown away but on the other hand, I hate that other races need to do that to even stay alive and when a toss does it (and the race can even dominate without microing at all), its superimpressive, although when I started as terran that is what you just needed to know the very first to stay alive above platin: micro and macro at the same time. And this is what is so annoying in sc2, I think protoss isn't played to the max yet. Or why is it that they win so much and it wasn't even needed to micro the units that hard and still they win almost all tournaments 2014. I hate it that one race obviously needs less effort (mechanical whise) then the others for the win.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
27%
★★★- Good game (6)
55%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
9%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Solar vs SuperNova Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On May 16 2014 18:39 McBrungus wrote: ...That is absolutely terrifying to watch as a Zerg.
At least its comforting knowing that not everyone can do that
well yeah. but if you concentrate on it, it is not even that hard. There are tons of micro maps where you just have to do that. Note that behind all that he didn't do anything in his base so he JUST had to concentrate on micro. Not saying what he did wasn't awesome. it was monstrously awesome but it also is something other players still could do with some spare apm and it just proves that toss isn't even at its limits of being played.
Such micro is more common at terrans, where we already saw Maru, Marineking and others doing that. Maru proved that several times, for example holding a 2 base zergling/baneling allin with just 1 marauder and 2 marines
Well of course but it is nice to see good protoss micro once in a while.
absolutely man. I am really blown away but on the other hand, I hate that other races need to do that to even stay alive and when a toss does it (and the race can even dominate without microing at all), its superimpressive, although when I started as terran that is what you just needed to know the very first to stay alive above platin: micro and macro at the same time. And this is what is so annoying in sc2, I think protoss isn't played to the max yet. Or why is it that they win so much and it wasn't even needed to micro the units that hard and still they win almost all tournaments 2014. I hate it that one race obviously needs less effort (mechanical whise) then the others for the win.
This isn't even remotely true.
If you think Protoss is so easy then switch to Protoss. You'll very quickly learn that it isn't so easy.
Keep balance whine out of the LR please...
what word didn't you get when i wrote that when I started as terran, which ofc includes that I switched I won't complain about balance, I just want every game with a toss as entertaining as this. Sorry if my intention wasn't clear enough for the slow joe in the back row (although I wrote it down). btw as protoss I did just fine after I learned to micro and multitask
On May 16 2014 18:40 Destructicon wrote: God, I just tuned in to see PartinG fail his initial rush into destroy Byul trough superior multi-tasking. That was the sickest thing I've ever seen a Protoss do.
Wasn't really multitasking, just godly micro coupled with Byul not making enough queens.
He kept on top of his macro as well as the situation allowed. Kept the front line reinforced. It's not exactly three-separate-battles-at-the-same-time level of multitasking, but still impressive.
Yep, kept on top of his warp cycles, hit chronos on gates, and warp ins at pylons which means not microing the battles.
Almost any other Protoss would have lost after that failed first attack. Parting won that game through superior skill.
for that he gets a small applause: flanking,positioning of important units, EMPing microing, avoiding storms, focussing units and macroing at home/teching/calling down mules and making buildings, bringing your reinforcements safe across the map... I am not really impressed by a protoss that does some micro and some macro behind it, this should be within the 200+ APM range every pro player has. At least every terran in diamond and above can do that.
Although I have to give it to parting that he did it without mistakes and he did it although toss normally don't need to do it, so it was impressive and entertaining, but i hope every protoss will finally learn to do some micro while macroing, to abuse units more, to make games more impressive again
Oh, please. Not another post, in a PvZ no less, from a QQ Terran who thinks that Sisyphus had it easy.
-_-
oh i am not terran anymore dude. So sorry for the QQing, wasn't meant to balance whine. Just wanted to say: Look what still can be done with this race, it isn't even at the limit. And moreover LOOK HOW ENTERTAINING TOSS CAN BE IF IT IS PLAYED WITH SOME MICRO (but yeah, he took a page of a "how to micro terran units" book)
On May 16 2014 18:39 McBrungus wrote: ...That is absolutely terrifying to watch as a Zerg.
At least its comforting knowing that not everyone can do that
well yeah. but if you concentrate on it, it is not even that hard. There are tons of micro maps where you just have to do that. Note that behind all that he didn't do anything in his base so he JUST had to concentrate on micro. Not saying what he did wasn't awesome. it was monstrously awesome but it also is something other players still could do with some spare apm and it just proves that toss isn't even at its limits of being played.
Such micro is more common at terrans, where we already saw Maru, Marineking and others doing that. Maru proved that several times, for example holding a 2 base zergling/baneling allin with just 1 marauder and 2 marines
Well of course but it is nice to see good protoss micro once in a while.
absolutely man. I am really blown away but on the other hand, I hate that other races need to do that to even stay alive and when a toss does it (and the race can even dominate without microing at all), its superimpressive, although when I started as terran that is what you just needed to know the very first to stay alive above platin: micro and macro at the same time. And this is what is so annoying in sc2, I think protoss isn't played to the max yet. Or why is it that they win so much and it wasn't even needed to micro the units that hard and still they win almost all tournaments 2014. I hate it that one race obviously needs less effort (mechanical whise) then the others for the win.
This isn't even remotely true.
If you think Protoss is so easy then switch to Protoss. You'll very quickly learn that it isn't so easy.
Keep balance whine out of the LR please...
why are you even taking the bait? Just let it go and don't bother with it
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (1)
1%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
2%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (103)
96%
107 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Solar vs SuperNova Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (1)
1%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
2%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (103)
96%
107 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Solar vs SuperNova Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (1)
1%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
2%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (103)
96%
107 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Solar vs SuperNova Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (1)
1%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
2%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (103)
96%
107 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Solar vs SuperNova Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On May 16 2014 19:10 Rollora wrote: GAME OF THE YEAR
can't argue with this. amazing.
at first i thought: cool strat by solar. And then... :D
was a bit of a coinflip if terran has money to repair, and why did he attack, he just needs the drones to regain some health and attack again, disturb mining... well guess that is a situation proplayers aren't too often
On May 16 2014 19:12 Pandemona wrote: 63 74 votes err wtf? Since when are there 63 people watching this group and like 10 people watched Maru ;_;
watching maru was actually quite boring. But this was exciting, game started, they switched to the "action" game ended. Game was 100% action, and it was short. OK you can also click on "only if you have time"
On May 16 2014 19:14 pure.Wasted wrote: Can someone explain why Solar tried that? I'm all for risky builds, but that seems... too risky. Doesn't it? Isn't it? Wtf.
If SuNo fighted in the mineral line or at the CC then Solar gets a free win
On May 16 2014 19:12 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: People not watching are so getting trolled by that recommended games poll >_>
How is it troll? I'd want to watch that game if I missed it.
Well when you see a game that overwhelmingly recommended you tend to expect a godly macro game for the ages.
no, you expect an awesome game.
which it was.
Which tend to be macro games.
To each their own I suppose.
The way I see it, there are phenomenal 5 star games that are very often macro games, but I find myself (and a lot of others) voting 5 stars for a special, quirky, and unique game. That Habitation Station was all of that.
It really seems like Tastosis is enjoying themselves today! I haven't gotten to watch much of Code S as of late, and this is a really nice change from the last time I was a regular viewer.
On May 16 2014 19:12 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: People not watching are so getting trolled by that recommended games poll >_>
How is it troll? I'd want to watch that game if I missed it.
Well when you see a game that overwhelmingly recommended you tend to expect a godly macro game for the ages.
no, you expect an awesome game.
which it was.
Which tend to be macro games.
To each their own I suppose.
The way I see it, there are phenomenal 5 star games that are very often macro games, but I find myself (and a lot of others) voting 5 stars for a special, quirky, and unique game. That Habitation Station was all of that.
Parting Game 2 was 5 Star as well for me. Also it was no macro game, but a 2 base allin with cool micro not seen from toss in a long game (and sorry I exrpressed it earlier that someone could mistake it as balance whine, I just want more toss do that)
On May 16 2014 19:18 McBrungus wrote: It really seems like Tastosis is enjoying themselves today! I haven't gotten to watch much of Code S as of late, and this is a really nice change from the last time I was a regular viewer.
On May 16 2014 19:18 McBrungus wrote: It really seems like Tastosis is enjoying themselves today! I haven't gotten to watch much of Code S as of late, and this is a really nice change from the last time I was a regular viewer.
They've been on fire this Code S. I think the change up with Wolf/Brendan from time to time has renewed them in some way.
On May 16 2014 19:18 McBrungus wrote: It really seems like Tastosis is enjoying themselves today! I haven't gotten to watch much of Code S as of late, and this is a really nice change from the last time I was a regular viewer.
Exactly, really great treat so far today!
Tastosis make all the difference for me. I immidiately switch of when I hear Wolf casting. He knows a lot about the gamers hair, but not about the game. He makes so many mistakes and false assumptions and he also has no humor. Also he doesn't like icecream.
On May 16 2014 19:24 Waxangel wrote: suno's lack of finesse is really disappointing for how entertaining he plays
kinda like gumiho :[
Which is weird because when he streams he has as much or more finesse than any player I watch.
I think its just a confidence thing, I think when Supernova is confident he's willing to try fancier riskier moves, but in a televised match he doesn't.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (5)
11%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (30)
65%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (9)
20%
46 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Solar vs SuperNova Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★- Good game (5)
11%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (30)
65%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (9)
20%
46 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Solar vs SuperNova Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On May 16 2014 19:32 Mozdk wrote: PvT yes! Strugling atm in PvT. Terrans have gotten smart.
Proxy factory today against a P who was playing ultra greedy. 4 Hellions for a roast probe bbq and a quick gg.
It was quite satisfying.
Since when is you being Terran a thing? :o
Switched to Terran for the season. I've played Toss since WOL, but recently I found I was getting bored. Hence, the change. I considered Zerg, but the race and the mechanics feel a little too alien for me while Terran and Protoss are more similar.
It's been a great change. I'm enjoying SC more than I have for a long time. Heck, I've laddered almost every day for the last couple of weeks. It's like falling in love with the game all over again. TvT pisses me off, though. I find it very frustrating.
On May 16 2014 19:32 Mozdk wrote: PvT yes! Strugling atm in PvT. Terrans have gotten smart.
Proxy factory today against a P who was playing ultra greedy. 4 Hellions for a roast probe bbq and a quick gg.
It was quite satisfying.
Since when is you being Terran a thing? :o
Switched to Terran for the season. I've played Toss since WOL, but recently I found I was getting bored. Hence, the change. I considered Zerg, but the race and the mechanics feel a little too alien for me while Terran and Protoss are more similar.
It's been a great change. I'm enjoying SC more than I have for a long time. Heck, I've laddered almost every day for the last couple of weeks. It's like falling in love with the game all over again. TvT pisses me off, though. I find it very frustrating.
Terran is the only way. TvT is fucking great when you get past early game shenanigans and start to outmaneuver your opponent.
On May 16 2014 19:32 Mozdk wrote: PvT yes! Strugling atm in PvT. Terrans have gotten smart.
Proxy factory today against a P who was playing ultra greedy. 4 Hellions for a roast probe bbq and a quick gg.
It was quite satisfying.
Since when is you being Terran a thing? :o
Switched to Terran for the season. I've played Toss since WOL, but recently I found I was getting bored. Hence, the change. I considered Zerg, but the race and the mechanics feel a little too alien for me while Terran and Protoss are more similar.
It's been a great change. I'm enjoying SC more than I have for a long time. Heck, I've laddered almost every day for the last couple of weeks. It's like falling in love with the game all over again. TvT pisses me off, though. I find it very frustrating.
On May 16 2014 19:44 sashkata wrote: After watching game one I am super surprised Superonova beat Solar. And judging by the poll I missed some amazing games.
On May 16 2014 19:44 sashkata wrote: After watching game one I am super surprised Superonova beat Solar. And judging by the poll I missed some amazing games.
Supernova you goddamn idiot. Don't pull scvs when you're timewarped, that's when it's too late. Also when you spot the pylon and let the probe escape it doesn't matter if you kill the pylon or not.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
17%
★★★- Good game (1)
4%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
4%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
8%
24 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On May 16 2014 19:32 Mozdk wrote: PvT yes! Strugling atm in PvT. Terrans have gotten smart.
Proxy factory today against a P who was playing ultra greedy. 4 Hellions for a roast probe bbq and a quick gg.
It was quite satisfying.
Since when is you being Terran a thing? :o
Switched to Terran for the season. I've played Toss since WOL, but recently I found I was getting bored. Hence, the change. I considered Zerg, but the race and the mechanics feel a little too alien for me while Terran and Protoss are more similar.
It's been a great change. I'm enjoying SC more than I have for a long time. Heck, I've laddered almost every day for the last couple of weeks. It's like falling in love with the game all over again. TvT pisses me off, though. I find it very frustrating.
Ah, cool. Makes me want to play again...
That is why I don't understand that not more ppl are playing terran. It is just extremely entertaining to play, whereas toss is very methodic and feels always the same + not much to do until you fight.
On May 16 2014 19:32 Mozdk wrote: PvT yes! Strugling atm in PvT. Terrans have gotten smart.
Proxy factory today against a P who was playing ultra greedy. 4 Hellions for a roast probe bbq and a quick gg.
It was quite satisfying.
Since when is you being Terran a thing? :o
Switched to Terran for the season. I've played Toss since WOL, but recently I found I was getting bored. Hence, the change. I considered Zerg, but the race and the mechanics feel a little too alien for me while Terran and Protoss are more similar.
It's been a great change. I'm enjoying SC more than I have for a long time. Heck, I've laddered almost every day for the last couple of weeks. It's like falling in love with the game all over again. TvT pisses me off, though. I find it very frustrating.
Ah, cool. Makes me want to play again...
That is why I don't understand that not more ppl are playing terran. It is just extremely entertaining to play, whereas toss is very methodic and feels always the same + not much to do until you fight.
On May 16 2014 19:32 Mozdk wrote: PvT yes! Strugling atm in PvT. Terrans have gotten smart.
Proxy factory today against a P who was playing ultra greedy. 4 Hellions for a roast probe bbq and a quick gg.
It was quite satisfying.
Since when is you being Terran a thing? :o
Switched to Terran for the season. I've played Toss since WOL, but recently I found I was getting bored. Hence, the change. I considered Zerg, but the race and the mechanics feel a little too alien for me while Terran and Protoss are more similar.
It's been a great change. I'm enjoying SC more than I have for a long time. Heck, I've laddered almost every day for the last couple of weeks. It's like falling in love with the game all over again. TvT pisses me off, though. I find it very frustrating.
Ah, cool. Makes me want to play again...
That is why I don't understand that not more ppl are playing terran. It is just extremely entertaining to play, whereas toss is very methodic and feels always the same + not much to do until you fight.
I switched to Terran (mostly) from Zerg. I dabbled in all 3, but I like the feel of Terran the most... though I have way more success with Zerg.
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
17%
★★★- Good game (1)
4%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
4%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
8%
24 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
On May 16 2014 19:32 Mozdk wrote: PvT yes! Strugling atm in PvT. Terrans have gotten smart.
Proxy factory today against a P who was playing ultra greedy. 4 Hellions for a roast probe bbq and a quick gg.
It was quite satisfying.
Since when is you being Terran a thing? :o
Switched to Terran for the season. I've played Toss since WOL, but recently I found I was getting bored. Hence, the change. I considered Zerg, but the race and the mechanics feel a little too alien for me while Terran and Protoss are more similar.
It's been a great change. I'm enjoying SC more than I have for a long time. Heck, I've laddered almost every day for the last couple of weeks. It's like falling in love with the game all over again. TvT pisses me off, though. I find it very frustrating.
Ah, cool. Makes me want to play again...
That is why I don't understand that not more ppl are playing terran. It is just extremely entertaining to play, whereas toss is very methodic and feels always the same + not much to do until you fight.
There is only so many marines I can spam out in a month. Then my brain goes on standby until I spam roaches again.
On May 16 2014 19:32 Mozdk wrote: PvT yes! Strugling atm in PvT. Terrans have gotten smart.
Proxy factory today against a P who was playing ultra greedy. 4 Hellions for a roast probe bbq and a quick gg.
It was quite satisfying.
Since when is you being Terran a thing? :o
Switched to Terran for the season. I've played Toss since WOL, but recently I found I was getting bored. Hence, the change. I considered Zerg, but the race and the mechanics feel a little too alien for me while Terran and Protoss are more similar.
It's been a great change. I'm enjoying SC more than I have for a long time. Heck, I've laddered almost every day for the last couple of weeks. It's like falling in love with the game all over again. TvT pisses me off, though. I find it very frustrating.
Terran is the only way. TvT is fucking great when you get past early game shenanigans and start to outmaneuver your opponent.
I'll probably main both Protoss and Terran next season, or maybe even give Zerg a try.
I just find that it take a lot of patience to play TvT. It's ironic that, as a Protoss, PvT was always my hardest match-up (I played a defensive macro style) and now playing against T is still my hardest match-up. I find that more than a little funny.
On May 16 2014 19:32 Mozdk wrote: PvT yes! Strugling atm in PvT. Terrans have gotten smart.
Proxy factory today against a P who was playing ultra greedy. 4 Hellions for a roast probe bbq and a quick gg.
It was quite satisfying.
Since when is you being Terran a thing? :o
Switched to Terran for the season. I've played Toss since WOL, but recently I found I was getting bored. Hence, the change. I considered Zerg, but the race and the mechanics feel a little too alien for me while Terran and Protoss are more similar.
It's been a great change. I'm enjoying SC more than I have for a long time. Heck, I've laddered almost every day for the last couple of weeks. It's like falling in love with the game all over again. TvT pisses me off, though. I find it very frustrating.
Ah, cool. Makes me want to play again...
That is why I don't understand that not more ppl are playing terran. It is just extremely entertaining to play, whereas toss is very methodic and feels always the same + not much to do until you fight.
People like winning.
well ez wins maybe. But as everyone knows winning feels more satisfying if it is harder earned (talking about lower leagues here, not imbalance). Its like winning doesn't feel good when you cheat. Compared to: if you go walking up a mountain and get up there, completely exhausted but MAN THAT VIEW! T
Damn the Solar vs Supernova Game 2 poll is pretty legendary right now, almost 100 votes and absolutely none are for 1, 2 or 3 stars, and almost all for 5 stars. Of course this post of mine may change that sadly.
Coming back to watch some CODE S for the first time in month (Day off today). Thinking: "Well, you haven't watched many games besides some PL PvZ + PvP, Let's see how Terran match-ups have changed" First TvP -> Blink all-in on two base so people can't call it all in. :D
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
10%
★★★- Good game (3)
15%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
5%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (3)
15%
20 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?
★- Do not see this game no matter what (6)
43%
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
36%
★★★- Good game (1)
7%
★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
7%
★★★★★- One of the best games this season (1)
7%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?
(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★- Good game (Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
Does Supernova know something I don't know? how could he possibly play so bad with those marines? He would have been better of just rallying the marines to the core...
On May 16 2014 19:53 JoeCool wrote: Seriously, why does the MSC have to be a flying unit? Couldn´t it fulfil it´s purpose on ground?
Well I'm not 100% sure what it's purpose is but it seems that it's purpose is to scout, harass, be the most important spellcaster for that race, and also not die. The flying part helps it not die.
On May 16 2014 19:53 JoeCool wrote: Seriously, why does the MSC have to be a flying unit? Couldn´t it fulfil it´s purpose on ground?
Well I'm not 100% sure what it's purpose is but it seems that it's purpose is to scout, harass, be the most important spellcaster for that race, and also not die. The flying part helps it not die.
On May 16 2014 19:32 Mozdk wrote: PvT yes! Strugling atm in PvT. Terrans have gotten smart.
Proxy factory today against a P who was playing ultra greedy. 4 Hellions for a roast probe bbq and a quick gg.
It was quite satisfying.
Since when is you being Terran a thing? :o
Switched to Terran for the season. I've played Toss since WOL, but recently I found I was getting bored. Hence, the change. I considered Zerg, but the race and the mechanics feel a little too alien for me while Terran and Protoss are more similar.
It's been a great change. I'm enjoying SC more than I have for a long time. Heck, I've laddered almost every day for the last couple of weeks. It's like falling in love with the game all over again. TvT pisses me off, though. I find it very frustrating.
Terran is the only way. TvT is fucking great when you get past early game shenanigans and start to outmaneuver your opponent.
I'll probably main both Protoss and Terran next season, or maybe even give Zerg a try.
I just find that it take a lot of patience to play TvT. It's ironic that, as a Protoss, PvT was always my hardest match-up (I played a defensive macro style) and now playing against T is still my hardest match-up. I find that more than a little funny.
same when I switched to zerg: 90% winrate in ZvZ since 75% in ZvP but like 30% in ZvT. But that is because I get outplayed all the time: my high winrates in ZvP and ZvZ got me into a higher league then I belong to. When I then play a terran, the games are always close (I don't play allins) but he outmultitasks me. When I watch the replays I see him doing 2x as much as other race opponents and then I did. So this explains why the 50% winrate based ladder doesn't make the game balanced. Obviously in my league the most players overall have like 50% winrate, but some races really play better then the other. So this is why it is funny: you could either say: I don't win vs terrans, this race must be imba, current tournament wins don't tell the whole story. Or you watch the replay and see...(at least in my case it is like that): well I get outplayed.
On May 16 2014 19:54 Teoita wrote: Was afk, what happened?
supernova takes gold game progresses he builds bunker at protoss natural and rallies first couple of marines there once parting sniffs out the gold he sends his m.core over picks off marines with m.core as they trickle out he throws down stargate behind it because no marines the oracle piledrives everything gg
On May 16 2014 19:53 JoeCool wrote: Seriously, why does the MSC have to be a flying unit? Couldn´t it fulfil it´s purpose on ground?
Well I'm not 100% sure what it's purpose is but it seems that it's purpose is to scout, harass, be the most important spellcaster for that race, and also not die. The flying part helps it not die.
On May 16 2014 19:54 Teoita wrote: Was afk, what happened?
supernova takes gold game progresses he builds bunker at protoss natural and rallies first couple of marines there once parting sniffs out the gold he sends his m.core over picks off marines with m.core as they trickle out he throws down stargate behind it because no marines the oracle piledrives everything gg
On May 16 2014 19:55 BlackCompany wrote: Cant even feel bad about the Protoss winning vs the Terran because the Terran played both games 100% awefull
*the protoss played both games 100% amazing
Parting played good, but his PvZ was more impressing. He basicly blink-all inned and then controlled a MSC/oracle. Sure he had good micro but.. SuNo was just bad those games
On May 16 2014 19:55 BlackCompany wrote: Cant even feel bad about the Protoss winning vs the Terran because the Terran played both games 100% awefull
*the protoss played both games 100% amazing
Parting played good, but his PvZ was more impressing. He basicly blink-all inned and then controlled a MSC/oracle. Sure he had good micro but.. SuNo was just bad those games
That sounds like it's a rather standard parting day to me.
On May 16 2014 19:54 Teoita wrote: Was afk, what happened?
godly mothership core micro into oracle killed SuNo pretty much. Just couldn't get out enough marines nor a widow mine in time.
Seriously, godly MSC micro?
He killed 8 marines with it and delayed the factory which meant no widow mine AND no marines when the oracle hit
So a banshee that just keeps killing marines one by one as they spawn would also be good micro? No matter what race you play, when terran doesn't have enough units from the start to push off aggression, you will be in great shape if you camp on top of production facilities and kill units as they come out. It is just how terran works.
It was just a numbers game, that's it. Both for MSC and the oracle.
Parting's gameplan and decision making was great. His micro.. well there was nothing special about that micro.
On May 16 2014 19:55 BlackCompany wrote: Cant even feel bad about the Protoss winning vs the Terran because the Terran played both games 100% awefull
*the protoss played both games 100% amazing
Parting played good, but his PvZ was more impressing. He basicly blink-all inned and then controlled a MSC/oracle. Sure he had good micro but.. SuNo was just bad those games
That sounds like it's a rather standard parting day to me.
Haha, yeah indeed. And sadly like a standard SuNo showing in the ro32/ro16 aswell TT
On May 16 2014 19:54 Teoita wrote: Was afk, what happened?
godly mothership core micro into oracle killed SuNo pretty much. Just couldn't get out enough marines nor a widow mine in time.
Seriously, godly MSC micro?
He killed 8 marines with it and delayed the factory which meant no widow mine AND no marines when the oracle hit
So a banshee that just keeps killing marines one by one as they spawn would also be good micro? No matter what race you play, when terran doesn't have enough units from the start to push off aggression, you will be in great shape if you camp on top of production facilities and kill units as they come out. It is just how terran works.
It was just a numbers game, that's it. Both for MSC and the oracle.
Parting's gameplan and decision making was great. His micro.. well there was nothing special about that micro.
I still remember that ForGG game where he went CC first (with bunker) on Frost and died to one Zealot, one Stalker, and a Timewarp on his ramp. Don't remember who the Protoss was, though.
On May 16 2014 19:54 Teoita wrote: Was afk, what happened?
godly mothership core micro into oracle killed SuNo pretty much. Just couldn't get out enough marines nor a widow mine in time.
Seriously, godly MSC micro?
He killed 8 marines with it and delayed the factory which meant no widow mine AND no marines when the oracle hit
Godly results =! godly micro...
Who came up with "=!"? It doesn't mean what it seems to do. It's dumb.
=! is absolutely common for "is not(like)" or "the opposite"
as we are here on the internet, dealing with PHP, HTML, BBCode, why shouldn't =! or != be a thing ?
Same+exclamation mark should be super same and not opposite. Super dumb yo
what would be the opposite then in a very short way? Programming needs to be short, simple, to the point... and exists for a very long time now. But I agree, it confused me at the beginning as well.
On May 16 2014 19:54 Teoita wrote: Was afk, what happened?
godly mothership core micro into oracle killed SuNo pretty much. Just couldn't get out enough marines nor a widow mine in time.
Seriously, godly MSC micro?
He killed 8 marines with it and delayed the factory which meant no widow mine AND no marines when the oracle hit
Godly results =! godly micro...
Who came up with "=!"? It doesn't mean what it seems to do. It's dumb.
=! is absolutely common for "is not(like)" or "the opposite"
as we are here on the internet, dealing with PHP, HTML, BBCode, why shouldn't =! or != be a thing ?
Same+exclamation mark should be super same and not opposite. Super dumb yo
what would be the opposite then in a very short way? Programming needs to be short, simple, to the point... and exists for a very long time now. But I agree, it confused me at the beginning as well.
On May 16 2014 19:54 Teoita wrote: Was afk, what happened?
godly mothership core micro into oracle killed SuNo pretty much. Just couldn't get out enough marines nor a widow mine in time.
Seriously, godly MSC micro?
He killed 8 marines with it and delayed the factory which meant no widow mine AND no marines when the oracle hit
Godly results =! godly micro...
Who came up with "=!"? It doesn't mean what it seems to do. It's dumb.
=! is absolutely common for "is not(like)" or "the opposite"
as we are here on the internet, dealing with PHP, HTML, BBCode, why shouldn't =! or != be a thing ?
Same+exclamation mark should be super same and not opposite. Super dumb yo
what would be the opposite then in a very short way? Programming needs to be short, simple, to the point... and exists for a very long time now. But I agree, it confused me at the beginning as well.
Because "!" denote negation. !true = false. So the real question is why "!" means negation.
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On May 16 2014 19:54 Teoita wrote: Was afk, what happened?
godly mothership core micro into oracle killed SuNo pretty much. Just couldn't get out enough marines nor a widow mine in time.
Seriously, godly MSC micro?
He killed 8 marines with it and delayed the factory which meant no widow mine AND no marines when the oracle hit
Godly results =! godly micro...
Who came up with "=!"? It doesn't mean what it seems to do. It's dumb.
=! is absolutely common for "is not(like)" or "the opposite"
as we are here on the internet, dealing with PHP, HTML, BBCode, why shouldn't =! or != be a thing ?
Same+exclamation mark should be super same and not opposite. Super dumb yo
what would be the opposite then in a very short way? Programming needs to be short, simple, to the point... and exists for a very long time now. But I agree, it confused me at the beginning as well.
in Lua, not equals is ~= and in Perl string not equals is ne but screw that, != is the best
On May 16 2014 19:54 Teoita wrote: Was afk, what happened?
godly mothership core micro into oracle killed SuNo pretty much. Just couldn't get out enough marines nor a widow mine in time.
Seriously, godly MSC micro?
He killed 8 marines with it and delayed the factory which meant no widow mine AND no marines when the oracle hit
Godly results =! godly micro...
Who came up with "=!"? It doesn't mean what it seems to do. It's dumb.
=! is absolutely common for "is not(like)" or "the opposite"
as we are here on the internet, dealing with PHP, HTML, BBCode, why shouldn't =! or != be a thing ?
Same+exclamation mark should be super same and not opposite. Super dumb yo
what would be the opposite then in a very short way? Programming needs to be short, simple, to the point... and exists for a very long time now. But I agree, it confused me at the beginning as well.
Just take the = and tip it over. Like II
Boom! I just revolutionized the nerd world
I sure will understand this more than =! Lol And yes, the =! Lol is correct, dead serious here
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On May 16 2014 20:25 sertman wrote: loooooooooooooooooooooool
shouldn't solar know from having WAY more mutas that there would be other gas units on the map?
yup.
The 5 infestors unburrowing in plain sight of the mutas a minute ago could also have been an indication for the keen observer.
na, it was only 2stray lings that they unburrowed in front of. Not likely that Solar looks at them. Like at all, ever. They were just sent to scout for the 4th.
where was that game where mass zergling vs roaches totally crushed the roaches only player? Dunno why it always takes so long that from WCS NA or EU Korean players take over winning strats. Maybe they need to be so methotical that they never use new strats from one day to another
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And Solar makes ByuL crash out...that hype train crashed pretty early on huh, people thinking he was going to win this seasons GSL with his awesome BO1 performances in Pro League ^_^
On May 16 2014 20:46 Lorning wrote: This is good for SuNo
yeah he will now walk over to the win lets hope. More terrans are always good. So funny how much I enjoyed this group so far, awesome games, tastosis and new strats and counters
On May 16 2014 20:46 Pandemona wrote: And Solar makes ByuL crash out...that hype train crashed pretty early on huh, people thinking he was going to win this seasons GSL with his awesome BO1 performances in Pro League ^_^
....who said he was going to win? he was only really good in round 1 basically
On May 16 2014 20:46 boxerfred wrote: So a Code S Ro32 Zerg that drops out 0-2 can almost win WCS AM?
You have to factor in the opponents he faces on the way to the grand finals and the possibility of this being a bad day and during wcs america he had a good one
On May 16 2014 20:46 Pandemona wrote: And Solar makes ByuL crash out...that hype train crashed pretty early on huh, people thinking he was going to win this seasons GSL with his awesome BO1 performances in Pro League ^_^
....who said he was going to win? he was only really good in round 1 basically
You not been in Pro League LRs when IM are on? Wow, the ByuL beating Maru was the one where i saw lots and lots of posts about it xD
That thing that Tasteless just said was pretty true.
Supernova is one of the longest running, strong Terrans still in Code S. To think that he's been playing at this high-level since like 2010, it's pretty insane.
On May 16 2014 20:55 Heartland wrote: Isn't Parting one of the dragons?
Nah, they are a bunch of players i've never heard of, and Jangbang & Stork
oh I see
Unless Parting wasn't called Parting in BW, then he may be one of those I've never heard of hahah
I think he was called He-Who-Washes-Dishes
hahahahaha yeh.
I was waiting for Bisu fans to bite he was one of them too.. and I think Best? then two others
Snow I think, who just returned to BW (see the stream bar to the right). And then there was one more. Also, we Bisu fans are too refined to take such easy baits
On May 16 2014 20:55 Heartland wrote: Isn't Parting one of the dragons?
Nah, they are a bunch of players i've never heard of, and Jangbang & Stork
oh I see
Unless Parting wasn't called Parting in BW, then he may be one of those I've never heard of hahah
I think he was called He-Who-Washes-Dishes
hahahahaha yeh.
I was waiting for Bisu fans to bite he was one of them too.. and I think Best? then two others
Snow I think, who just returned to BW (see the stream bar to the right). And then there was one more. Also, we Bisu fans are too refined to take such easy baits
On May 16 2014 20:46 Pandemona wrote: And Solar makes ByuL crash out...that hype train crashed pretty early on huh, people thinking he was going to win this seasons GSL with his awesome BO1 performances in Pro League ^_^
....who said he was going to win? he was only really good in round 1 basically
You not been in Pro League LRs when IM are on? Wow, the ByuL beating Maru was the one where i saw lots and lots of posts about it xD
I saw no such posts, and I probably hype him more than anyone. Did expect him to top this group though.
On May 16 2014 20:55 Heartland wrote: Isn't Parting one of the dragons?
Nah, they are a bunch of players i've never heard of, and Jangbang & Stork
oh I see
Unless Parting wasn't called Parting in BW, then he may be one of those I've never heard of hahah
I think he was called He-Who-Washes-Dishes
hahahahaha yeh.
I was waiting for Bisu fans to bite he was one of them too.. and I think Best? then two others
Snow I think, who just returned to BW (see the stream bar to the right). And then there was one more. Also, we Bisu fans are too refined to take such easy baits
If we'd crown six dragons today, I'd say Zest, Rain, sOs, Parting, herO and MC? I mean Classic (and San I suppose) might belong there on some days but I feel like those six are the most consistently good Protosses at the moment
On May 16 2014 21:08 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: No idea what the hell Tasteless is talking about xD
Pacific Rim, one of last year's summer movies. Like this year's Godzilla movie but worse and with giant robots and more influenced by Japanese pop culture.
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Mech on that map? I am intrigued, will copy what he does if it works. Normally I am too impatient for such a thing, I always go bio here when I play terran
So...2 x hellion builds in other series and game 1 this series rekt Solar....goes BFH build and boom gets less drones than other times... Ok fuck logic :D
Of course its due to timinigs i guess and for once roaches be around
On May 16 2014 21:17 Rollora wrote: Mech on that map? I am intrigued, will copy what he does if it works. Normally I am too impatient for such a thing, I always go bio here when I play terran
I've seen it work a few times but it is usually either super long turtle game or 2 factory blue flame helions that straight up win.. But that map is bad for terran in TvZ in general.. If you are not a pro and don't have to use the map in competition, I think it is just better to veto it.
Ok Solar, third time now, on the best possible map against mech, with the best possible spawns, with a pretty good start. If you can't do it now, I dunno Kev.
On May 16 2014 21:23 ACrow wrote: Those SHs seemed confused. Didn't know whether to burrow or unburrow, go along with their kids for attack or whatever...
On May 16 2014 21:17 Rollora wrote: Mech on that map? I am intrigued, will copy what he does if it works. Normally I am too impatient for such a thing, I always go bio here when I play terran
maybe I know now why I don't play mech on big maps
On May 16 2014 21:23 ACrow wrote: Those SHs seemed confused. Didn't know whether to burrow or unburrow, go along with their kids for attack or whatever...
On May 16 2014 21:23 ACrow wrote: Those SHs seemed confused. Didn't know whether to burrow or unburrow, go along with their kids for attack or whatever...
SH's are really bad parents
they just have uncontrollable kids, this is unfair to blame it on the parents...
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On May 16 2014 21:26 Lorning wrote: This map needs to go
The only match up i like playing as T on that map is TvP mainly due to being able to bio play comfortably xD Other than that TvT is silly long games and TvZ is just lawl.
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kudos for having the balls to do it in deciding match, but he should have gone for regular mech play on Habitation... he really threw that game away needlessly
On May 16 2014 21:29 29 fps wrote: did he send the drones before he scouted the gold?
That could be like a super meta way to play here, start floating cc to gold, make sure zerg sees it, land it again at main and keep mining. Net result: Zerg sits with 8 drones at an empty gold base.
On May 16 2014 21:29 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Well I bet this game isn't getting 5 stars rofl
You are wrong! :D
Drones vs scvs saving esports
I mean, it is all cool that you have 400 apm, amazing timing attacks, sick Marine splits and micro and multi-prong attacks, but let's see how you deal with 9 DRONES! IS YOUR SCV MICRO AS GOOD!?
actually the previous one supernova build 3 factories was pumping out blue flame hellions, solar realized it got off a good 4 lings counter attack and was ready with about 10 raoches when the hellions arrived superb scouting and anticipation is what won solar the game not any balance
On May 16 2014 21:29 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Well I bet this game isn't getting 5 stars rofl
You are wrong! :D
Drones vs scvs saving esports
I mean, it is all cool that you have 400 apm, amazing timing attacks, sick Marine splits and micro and multi-prong attacks, but let's see how you deal with 9 DRONES! IS YOUR SCV MICRO AS GOOD!?
On May 16 2014 21:29 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Well I bet this game isn't getting 5 stars rofl
You are wrong! :D
Drones vs scvs saving esports
I mean, it is all cool that you have 400 apm, amazing timing attacks, sick Marine splits and micro and multi-prong attacks, but let's see how you deal with 9 DRONES! IS YOUR SCV MICRO AS GOOD!?
well 5 SCVs vs 9 Drones isn't that good, especially if you run out of minerals and can't repair and the others heal themselfes
actually the previous one supernova build 3 factories was pumping out blue flame hellions, solar realized it got off a good 4 lings counter attack off and was ready with about 10 raoches when the hellions arrived superb scouting and anticipation is what won solar the game not any balance
The funny thing is that as zerg you can make a bunch of roaches and outright kill the terran while as terran killing 17 workers doesn't even matter.
As much as I hate Solar's strategy and the result, I really do dislike the stupid gold floating strategy. If this at least prevent terrans from using it, I'm quite content.
actually the previous one supernova build 3 factories was pumping out blue flame hellions, solar realized it got off a good 4 lings counter attack off and was ready with about 10 raoches when the hellions arrived superb scouting and anticipation is what won solar the game not any balance
The funny thing is that as zerg you can make a bunch of roaches and outright kill the terran while as terran killing 17 workers doesn't even matter.
funny thing is zerg has drone mechanic and one round of 3 hatches will make the lose go away, it is just how it works, suno relied on a gimmicky attack it didn't work from there it was a foregone conclusion.
On May 16 2014 21:35 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh, it's terran lost balance whine time.
you think? I think in the "normal" games supernova showed he is the better player (mechanical whise), but he got hardcountered several times, so the mindgames and scouting go to his opponent. Nothing of the losses had to do with balance. Pure decision making.
On May 16 2014 21:36 baubo wrote: As much as I hate Solar's strategy and the result, I really do dislike the stupid gold floating strategy. If this at least prevent terrans from using it, I'm quite content.
I actually like it because it is a variation from your usual reaper expand into reaper-helion-into bio, or reaper-helion-banshee into mech.. Terran really lacks variety so a map that allows for different games is good in my opinion.
On May 16 2014 21:36 baubo wrote: As much as I hate Solar's strategy and the result, I really do dislike the stupid gold floating strategy. If this at least prevent terrans from using it, I'm quite content.
I actually like it because it is a variation from your usual reaper expand into reaper-helion-into bio, or reaper-helion-banshee into mech.. Terran really lacks variety so a map that allows for different games is good in my opinion.
Yeah, that's why I love Habitation. It's the only map that has a really unique meta.
On May 16 2014 21:35 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh, it's terran lost balance whine time.
you think? I think in the "normal" games supernova showed he is the better player (mechanical whise), but he got hardcountered several times, so the mindgames and scouting go to his opponent. Nothing of the losses had to do with balance. Pure decision making.
I agree. He won the first series and lost the second one. There were two drone rush vs Gangnam terran games. I don't think this is the time and especially NOT the place to complain about balance.
actually the previous one supernova build 3 factories was pumping out blue flame hellions, solar realized it got off a good 4 lings counter attack off and was ready with about 10 raoches when the hellions arrived superb scouting and anticipation is what won solar the game not any balance
The funny thing is that as zerg you can make a bunch of roaches and outright kill the terran while as terran killing 17 workers doesn't even matter.
funny thing is zerg has drone mechanic and one round of 3 hatches will make the lose go away, it is just how it works, suno relied on a gimmicky attack it didn't work from there it was a foregone conclusion.
It just shows how much easier it is for zergs to recover/execute attacks. O terran attacks are gimmicky? Lets just all play like Avilo then because attacking into swarmhosts is just suicide. Lets never attack till we've got our raven fleet so we can battle with energy units vs free units............
actually the previous one supernova build 3 factories was pumping out blue flame hellions, solar realized it got off a good 4 lings counter attack off and was ready with about 10 raoches when the hellions arrived superb scouting and anticipation is what won solar the game not any balance
The funny thing is that as zerg you can make a bunch of roaches and outright kill the terran while as terran killing 17 workers doesn't even matter.
Huh? When you go 2-base roach all-in and kill 17 workers while losing all your roaches to tanks/maruaders, you lose. And when you lose 10+ blue flame hellions to kill 17 workers you also lose. How is that not fair?
On May 16 2014 21:35 DarkLordOlli wrote: Oh, it's terran lost balance whine time.
you think? I think in the "normal" games supernova showed he is the better player (mechanical whise), but he got hardcountered several times, so the mindgames and scouting go to his opponent. Nothing of the losses had to do with balance. Pure decision making.
Without commenting on Alterzim as a map, that move out onto creep with speed banelings and SH should make Terran cringe.
On May 16 2014 21:36 baubo wrote: As much as I hate Solar's strategy and the result, I really do dislike the stupid gold floating strategy. If this at least prevent terrans from using it, I'm quite content.
is there any kind of wall/blocker that prevent flying units/building to pass through? Im not so familiar with the map editor
On May 16 2014 21:36 baubo wrote: As much as I hate Solar's strategy and the result, I really do dislike the stupid gold floating strategy. If this at least prevent terrans from using it, I'm quite content.
is there any kind of wall/blocker that prevent flying units/building to pass through? Im not so familiar with the map editor
On May 16 2014 21:36 baubo wrote: As much as I hate Solar's strategy and the result, I really do dislike the stupid gold floating strategy. If this at least prevent terrans from using it, I'm quite content.
I actually like it because it is a variation from your usual reaper expand into reaper-helion-into bio, or reaper-helion-banshee into mech.. Terran really lacks variety so a map that allows for different games is good in my opinion.
It's not a variation of anything.
It's an all-in build and one that basically depends on control because there are very few ways to play both as terran and zerg from that position.
I personally dislike strategies where you cannot counter with a better strategy, but only with better micro and control. It's like old MKP 2 Rax. There's no hard counter. Only great micro.
On May 16 2014 21:36 baubo wrote: As much as I hate Solar's strategy and the result, I really do dislike the stupid gold floating strategy. If this at least prevent terrans from using it, I'm quite content.
is there any kind of wall/blocker that prevent flying units/building to pass through? Im not so familiar with the map editor
Generally what they do to prevent this sort of stuff is either have rocks or neutral creeps there to prevent CC floating. But in the case of habitation station, apparently they didn't. I'm not really opposed to such design. Having a forward gold base is a good idea IMO. I just don't like the CC floating aspect.
actually the previous one supernova build 3 factories was pumping out blue flame hellions, solar realized it got off a good 4 lings counter attack off and was ready with about 10 raoches when the hellions arrived superb scouting and anticipation is what won solar the game not any balance
The funny thing is that as zerg you can make a bunch of roaches and outright kill the terran while as terran killing 17 workers doesn't even matter.
funny thing is zerg has drone mechanic and one round of 3 hatches will make the lose go away, it is just how it works, suno relied on a gimmicky attack it didn't work from there it was a foregone conclusion.
It just shows how much easier it is for zergs to recover/execute attacks. O terran attacks are gimmicky? Lets just all play like Avilo then because attacking into swarmhosts is just suicide. Lets never attack till we've got our raven fleet so we can battle with energy units vs free units............
great you listed two different things one thing loses you the game if the zerg is decent second thing gives you a shot at winning now think about what suno should have probably done.
actually the previous one supernova build 3 factories was pumping out blue flame hellions, solar realized it got off a good 4 lings counter attack off and was ready with about 10 raoches when the hellions arrived superb scouting and anticipation is what won solar the game not any balance
The funny thing is that as zerg you can make a bunch of roaches and outright kill the terran while as terran killing 17 workers doesn't even matter.
funny thing is zerg has drone mechanic and one round of 3 hatches will make the lose go away, it is just how it works, suno relied on a gimmicky attack it didn't work from there it was a foregone conclusion.
It just shows how much easier it is for zergs to recover/execute attacks. O terran attacks are gimmicky? Lets just all play like Avilo then because attacking into swarmhosts is just suicide. Lets never attack till we've got our raven fleet so we can battle with energy units vs free units............
great you listed two different things one thing loses you the game if the zerg is decent second thing gives you a shot at winning now think about what suno should have probably done.
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Can someone summerize that game ? it seemed awsome
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Can someone summerize that game ? it seemed awsome
1.typical habitation station terran move, float your main cc to the gold 2.solar scouts it and pulls his drones 3. drones vs scvs, drones outnumber scvs clearly. 4.Solar advances to the ro16 of code s 2014 S2
★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
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Can someone summerize that game ? it seemed awsome
1.typical habitation station terran move, float your main cc to the gold 2.solar scouts it and pulls his drones 3. drones vs scvs, drones outnumber scvs clearly. 4.Solar advances to the ro16 of code s 2014 S2
Wait, so it's what happened earlier in the morning but Solar won instead of SuNo?
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★★★★★- One of the best games this season (55)
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Can someone summerize that game ? it seemed awsome
1.typical habitation station terran move, float your main cc to the gold 2.solar scouts it and pulls his drones 3. drones vs scvs, drones outnumber scvs clearly. 4.Solar advances to the ro16 of code s 2014 S2
Wait, so it's what happened earlier in the morning but Solar won instead of SuNo?
Yup, SuNo played out that really bad, his 2 SCVs got caught and he was like 6 SCVs against 9 or something like that. No Micro could save him after the loss of those 2 SCVs.
parting was just flawless in his execution... it was unbelievably good. Shame about supernova but meh we'll have pvp all the way from semifinals, I've assumed that already
On May 17 2014 01:32 scypio wrote: Supernova really messed up his final game... so we will get a whooping 2T in Ro16 if Innovation makes it through. And that seems unlikely.
Last season there were 2T in Ro16 as well, no reason to think that InNoVation won't make it into Ro16. herO is in relative slump, not speaking about Leenock and Squirtle, who both sadly are past their prime it seems. Also Squirtle isn't type of player who will try to trick you always, even if he's better than you, and Leenock will be just outmultitasked by Bogus.
2T-8P-6Z Ro16 is more than likely. Hope, no 4P groups more, that last one was more than good to expect something similar :D
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