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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 14 2014 14:23 GMT
#301
On February 14 2014 23:22 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 23:21 opterown wrote:
On February 14 2014 23:17 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 14 2014 23:16 opterown wrote:
murder


Cheeky australian, good thing MKP is back so I can fire shots back

http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=&before=&players=marineking
hero liquid&event=&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&op=Search


It's like you to link WoL stats that don't matter at all anymore. There's a reason why one stayed relevant and the other switched to LoL

damn is hero switching to LoL? didn't realise
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 14 2014 14:23 GMT
#302
On February 14 2014 23:23 marvellosity wrote:
opterown & Darklord



There's no drama, I love him to pieces
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 14 2014 14:23 GMT
#303
On February 14 2014 23:23 marvellosity wrote:
opterown & Darklord



beat me too it. Shellbot is getting involved too :D

need some angry Startale fans for a 3-way

NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
February 14 2014 14:24 GMT
#304
On February 14 2014 23:19 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 23:18 ZAiNs wrote:
On February 14 2014 23:16 Noonius wrote:
...and we're back to normal pvp

Nah that was just HerO gambling hardcore vs a much better player than him.

LOL get out of here. Both of their builds were gambles. Rain's gamble was hoping he had no detection, and HerO's gamble was hoping he didn't go DTs

Is not a gamble if you make your opponent feel safe, expand and use the energy of his sentry to create illusion to keep HerO feeling safety
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2014 14:24 GMT
#305
On February 14 2014 23:23 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 23:23 marvellosity wrote:
opterown & Darklord



There's no drama, I love him to pieces

wtf why are you spoiling it

christ
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 14 2014 14:24 GMT
#306
On February 14 2014 23:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 23:19 Darkhoarse wrote:
On February 14 2014 23:18 ZAiNs wrote:
On February 14 2014 23:16 Noonius wrote:
...and we're back to normal pvp

Nah that was just HerO gambling hardcore vs a much better player than him.

LOL get out of here. Both of their builds were gambles. Rain's gamble was hoping he had no detection, and HerO's gamble was hoping he didn't go DTs


HerO's build DOES account for DTs. But that pylon outside his base HAD to make him save the forcefield in case of 3gate pressure.

Basically what Apollo is saying atm.


I disagree. Fast expansion which is greedy to begin with as it could already lose against 3gate pressure due to lack of forcefields and rushing the twilight council after is in fact nothing short of a gamble. Dark templar is actually quiet a solid opening even though it doesn't deal damage most of the time.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 14 2014 14:24 GMT
#307
On February 14 2014 23:23 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 23:22 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 14 2014 23:21 opterown wrote:
On February 14 2014 23:17 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 14 2014 23:16 opterown wrote:
murder


Cheeky australian, good thing MKP is back so I can fire shots back

http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=&before=&players=marineking
hero liquid&event=&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&op=Search


It's like you to link WoL stats that don't matter at all anymore. There's a reason why one stayed relevant and the other switched to LoL

damn is hero switching to LoL? didn't realise


Then he'd be more relevant in both games!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 14 2014 14:24 GMT
#308
On February 14 2014 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 23:23 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 14 2014 23:23 marvellosity wrote:
opterown & Darklord



There's no drama, I love him to pieces

wtf why are you spoiling it

christ

He's just taking the easy way out because he knows he can't win
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
February 14 2014 14:24 GMT
#309
On February 14 2014 23:23 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 23:23 marvellosity wrote:
opterown & Darklord



beat me too it. Shellbot is getting involved too :D

need some angry Startale fans for a 3-way



fuck im angry, prime is shit
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 14 2014 14:25 GMT
#310
you gonna take that Darklord?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
February 14 2014 14:25 GMT
#311
On February 14 2014 23:18 Shellshock wrote:
wow Rain is 9-1 vs HerO now. That's a more lopsided win % than Mvp vs MKP (83.33%)


MVP v MKP is a bigger pool of games though right?
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
February 14 2014 14:25 GMT
#312
Did I walk into some LR drama? On Valentines?!
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
February 14 2014 14:25 GMT
#313
Wow, that Intel commercial is pretty sick.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 14 2014 14:26 GMT
#314
On February 14 2014 23:25 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 23:18 Shellshock wrote:
wow Rain is 9-1 vs HerO now. That's a more lopsided win % than Mvp vs MKP (83.33%)


MVP v MKP is a bigger pool of games though right?

sure but I mean I feel like once you get to 10 games it's pretty obvious that you're getting the beat down consistently and not by luck or unfortunate coincidence, especially in the matchup most called a coinflip
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 14 2014 14:26 GMT
#315
well it's like 1:30 on 15th for me so no more valentines here
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 14 2014 14:26 GMT
#316
On February 14 2014 23:23 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 23:23 marvellosity wrote:
opterown & Darklord



beat me too it. Shellbot is getting involved too :D

need some angry Startale fans for a 3-way


I will provide the third wheel.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 14 2014 14:27 GMT
#317
On February 14 2014 23:25 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 23:18 Shellshock wrote:
wow Rain is 9-1 vs HerO now. That's a more lopsided win % than Mvp vs MKP (83.33%)


MVP v MKP is a bigger pool of games though right?

20-4.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 14 2014 14:27 GMT
#318
On February 14 2014 23:24 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 23:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 14 2014 23:19 Darkhoarse wrote:
On February 14 2014 23:18 ZAiNs wrote:
On February 14 2014 23:16 Noonius wrote:
...and we're back to normal pvp

Nah that was just HerO gambling hardcore vs a much better player than him.

LOL get out of here. Both of their builds were gambles. Rain's gamble was hoping he had no detection, and HerO's gamble was hoping he didn't go DTs


HerO's build DOES account for DTs. But that pylon outside his base HAD to make him save the forcefield in case of 3gate pressure.

Basically what Apollo is saying atm.


I disagree. Fast expansion which is greedy to begin with as it could already lose against 3gate pressure due to lack of forcefields and rushing the twilight council after is in fact nothing short of a gamble. Dark templar is actually quiet a solid opening even though it doesn't deal damage most of the time.


HerO was never going to a fast expansion. The sentry first into blink opening is purely for hallucination scouting which gets there in time to account for any tech path. If it's DTs, HerO warps in another sentry to block the ramp waiting for his robo to complete. DT expand is still a good build matchup for Rain in that case because Rain gets the earlier expansion but at least HerO survives and he's got blink to balance out the economic deficit with harass of his own
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 14:29:15
February 14 2014 14:27 GMT
#319
On February 14 2014 23:19 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 23:18 ZAiNs wrote:
On February 14 2014 23:16 Noonius wrote:
...and we're back to normal pvp

Nah that was just HerO gambling hardcore vs a much better player than him.

LOL get out of here. Both of their builds were gambles. Rain's gamble was hoping he had no detection, and HerO's gamble was hoping he didn't go DTs

Rain's build is an extremely common and safe PvP build. You don't need to do any damage with it, it's just a tool to let you expand safely.

On February 14 2014 23:24 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 23:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 14 2014 23:19 Darkhoarse wrote:
On February 14 2014 23:18 ZAiNs wrote:
On February 14 2014 23:16 Noonius wrote:
...and we're back to normal pvp

Nah that was just HerO gambling hardcore vs a much better player than him.

LOL get out of here. Both of their builds were gambles. Rain's gamble was hoping he had no detection, and HerO's gamble was hoping he didn't go DTs


HerO's build DOES account for DTs. But that pylon outside his base HAD to make him save the forcefield in case of 3gate pressure.

Basically what Apollo is saying atm.


I disagree. Fast expansion which is greedy to begin with as it could already lose against 3gate pressure due to lack of forcefields and rushing the twilight council after is in fact nothing short of a gamble. Dark templar is actually quiet a solid opening even though it doesn't deal damage most of the time.

This DT build is a pretty specific build and is perfectly fine vs 3 Gate Pressure, you can even hold 10 Gate 3 Gate with it sometimes. Ask your Protoss friends if you don't want to trust a random person on TL :D.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 14:28:47
February 14 2014 14:27 GMT
#320
On February 14 2014 23:26 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 23:25 liberate71 wrote:
On February 14 2014 23:18 Shellshock wrote:
wow Rain is 9-1 vs HerO now. That's a more lopsided win % than Mvp vs MKP (83.33%)


MVP v MKP is a bigger pool of games though right?

sure but I mean I feel like once you get to 10 games it's pretty obvious that you're getting the beat down consistently and not by luck or unfortunate coincidence, especially in the matchup most called a coinflip

aligulac shows rivalries now, what are the most lopsided korean ones? lol

actually dw i think i got it, it's hero vs. his nerves
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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