Scarlett and QXC are my picks. Would be interesting if they played each other, last time QXC got kind of rolled, but I feel he's improved a lot since then.
On January 26 2014 05:32 scampioen wrote: I have adblock disabled but the stream is giving a black screen for me, any solution to that?
I haven't been able to watch this tournament at all because the stream is always giving me problems, either black screen or buffering all the damn time. I pretty much just watch the youtube vods afterwards because at least that works perfectly.
After watching qxc's tutorials on TvZ mech, it's really cool to watch his play. You can see him actually do the things he talks about, like trying to bait the queens out too far so he can try a runby with his hellions. Didn't happen this game, but he tried and it showed.
Too bad the games are kinda unorthodox, would've loved to see these guy play a more standard game. This is entertaining though
On January 26 2014 05:57 xtorn wrote: you have to be kidding... missed Scarlett playing because of the wrong stream time mentioned on the thread ;/ oh well, I'll wait for the replay.
My apologies, used time from calendar instead of official site. The games were underwhelming if that's any comfort.
On January 26 2014 03:47 Squat wrote: Scarlett and QXC are my picks. Would be interesting if they played each other, last time QXC got kind of rolled, but I feel he's improved a lot since then.
Seems they will play, your prediction was correct. I'm also excited for this match - I've seen Scarlett vs Suppy earlier on her stream, and she pwn'ed him badly.
edit - if I'm not mistaken, if Suppy wins versus Kane, and Scarlett wins against qxc, then Scarlett must rematch Kane.
On January 26 2014 03:47 Squat wrote: Scarlett and QXC are my picks. Would be interesting if they played each other, last time QXC got kind of rolled, but I feel he's improved a lot since then.
Seems they will play, your prediction was correct. I'm also excited for this match - I've seen Scarlett vs Suppy earlier on her stream, and she pwn'ed him badly.
edit - if I'm not mistaken, if Suppy wins versus Kane, and Scarlett wins against qxc, then Scarlett must rematch Kane.
Eh, given how Scarlett vs Kane looked just now, I'm not too stoked about that. I dunno, she just seems...shaky, or rusty. Kane looks like a beast atm, will probably be him and Suppy.
Also, my prediction was for Scarlett and QXC to advance, so it appears I was dead wrong. Maybe Zealously has infected me.
Kane is an interesting versatile player - I'm guilty of not being all that familiar with NA players, will have to read up more about him and study his matches.
Suppy seems to lose against Kane so the rematch will likely not happen.
edit Wow, Scarlett has GOT to see the missing barracks, I feel like that overlord is taking forever.
She won!! See, that's the brilliance of Scarlett. She pulls so much value out of every single unit - THAT is what makes me like her play above others. Pure awesome micro and decision making.
On January 26 2014 07:36 Cheren wrote: Kane is 8-0 this tournament, including 2-0 Huk and 2-0 Scarlett. Arguably the best NA player right now.
lulz. Win a series against scarlett. Become instantly best player NA. Reddit lvl logic. (not to shit on kane, great run, good player, but he's got a lot of winning to do, if he wants to be considered on the same lvl as scarlett, I'm sure he'd agree)
I wonder how many viewers they're getting. I suspect they lose out a bunch that don't find the games with twitch being so dominant and that low sound.. have to set up my sound to max to hear it. Such good players in it otherwise and the casters are doing a good job imo. Don't really like destiny but he's doing suprisingly well. Still a bit sad to not seeing the Ax's casting a mlg event.
On January 26 2014 07:40 Incand wrote: I wonder how many viewers they're getting. I suspect they lose out a bunch that don't find the games with twitch being so dominant and that low sound.. have to set up my sound to max to hear it. Such good players in it otherwise and the casters are doing a good job imo. Don't really like destiny but he's doing suprisingly well. Still a bit sad to not seeing the Ax's casting a mlg event.
About 4500, but if their anti-adblock thing works as intended that's like 9000 twitch viewers in revenue.
On January 26 2014 07:40 Incand wrote: I wonder how many viewers they're getting. I suspect they lose out a bunch that don't find the games with twitch being so dominant and that low sound.. have to set up my sound to max to hear it. Such good players in it otherwise and the casters are doing a good job imo. Don't really like destiny but he's doing suprisingly well. Still a bit sad to not seeing the Ax's casting a mlg event.
About 4500, but if their anti-adblock thing works as intended that's like 9000 twitch viewers in revenue.
I feel like the low #s have a lot to deal with the stream player too =\.
On January 26 2014 07:40 Incand wrote: I wonder how many viewers they're getting. I suspect they lose out a bunch that don't find the games with twitch being so dominant and that low sound.. have to set up my sound to max to hear it. Such good players in it otherwise and the casters are doing a good job imo. Don't really like destiny but he's doing suprisingly well. Still a bit sad to not seeing the Ax's casting a mlg event.
About 4500, but if their anti-adblock thing works as intended that's like 9000 twitch viewers in revenue.
If MLG's CPM is the 25 they say, and the adblock rates aren't too high, then its worth a bit more than 9000 twitch viewers (especially in January).
Granted, MLG does have the addition of bandwidth costs/employees to attract advertisers/etc.
On January 26 2014 07:45 Squat wrote: Ok my stream went belly up for about 15 mins, how the FUCK did she win that first game o0?
Broke out of Qxc's contain with 2 spines. Proceeded to take a quick 3rd. Played relatively defensively and got quick Hive. Infestor/Ultra/Ling/Bling walks over Qxc's 3rd.
It's kinda weird they don't have any stream delay, I mean for the biggest (??) online NA tourny ever, not saying players are gonna watch the stream but it should be standard tournament procedure esp big ones
Whhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy is he making siege tanks instead of ravens? The whole point iof playing turtle mech is to get the air army with a ton of raven support to stop zerg from even being able to attack against constant PDDs. Is this the first time qxc plays mech?
On January 26 2014 08:12 Zheryn wrote: Whhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy is he making siege tanks instead of ravens? The whole point iof playing turtle mech is to get the air army with a ton of raven support to stop zerg from even being able to attack against constant PDDs. Is this the first time qxc plays mech?
Yeah you're probably more experienced with mech than qxc.
On January 26 2014 08:12 Zheryn wrote: Whhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy is he making siege tanks instead of ravens? The whole point iof playing turtle mech is to get the air army with a ton of raven support to stop zerg from even being able to attack against constant PDDs. Is this the first time qxc plays mech?
Yeah you're probably more experienced with mech than qxc.
Yeah because I need to be very experienced to complain about someone playing a style that is based around surviving until you get the best unit in the game, and then not getting the unit. It's like a zerg playing turtle style in WoL and teching up then staying on roach hydra the entire game.
On January 26 2014 08:12 Zheryn wrote: Whhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy is he making siege tanks instead of ravens? The whole point iof playing turtle mech is to get the air army with a ton of raven support to stop zerg from even being able to attack against constant PDDs. Is this the first time qxc plays mech?
Yeah you're probably more experienced with mech than qxc.
Yeah because I need to be very experienced to complain about someone playing a style that is based around surviving until you get the best unit in the game, and then not getting the unit. It's like a zerg playing turtle style in WoL and teching up then staying on roach hydra the entire game.
I read on the TL forums that the mothership core is the best unit in the game.
On January 26 2014 08:12 Zheryn wrote: Whhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy is he making siege tanks instead of ravens? The whole point iof playing turtle mech is to get the air army with a ton of raven support to stop zerg from even being able to attack against constant PDDs. Is this the first time qxc plays mech?
Yeah you're probably more experienced with mech than qxc.
Yeah because I need to be very experienced to complain about someone playing a style that is based around surviving until you get the best unit in the game, and then not getting the unit. It's like a zerg playing turtle style in WoL and teching up then staying on roach hydra the entire game.
I don't think he was being sarcastic. It seriously looks like qxc doesn't know how to play late-game Air Terran.
On January 26 2014 08:26 Sakkreth wrote: Swarmhosts... Is that unit good for the game in any matchup ?
Free units are bad for the game in pretty much every matchup. See 2012 WoL for confirmation. They don't usually affect TvZ though, because most people are smart enough not to mech against Z.
On January 26 2014 08:27 Darkhoarse wrote: This game kinda sucks. Not like firecake vs Mana sucks, but it sucks.
Why?
Most things are more interesting than watching locusts constantly running into the meat grinder that is qxc's tank line knowing that qxc will almost certainly inevitably lose.
On January 26 2014 08:26 Sakkreth wrote: Swarmhosts... Is that unit good for the game in any matchup ?
Free units are bad for the game in pretty much every matchup. See 2012 WoL for confirmation. They don't usually affect TvZ though, because most people are smart enough not to mech against Z.
On January 26 2014 08:27 Darkhoarse wrote: This game kinda sucks. Not like firecake vs Mana sucks, but it sucks.
Why?
Most things are more interesting than watching locusts constantly running into the meat grinder that is qxc's tank line knowing that qxc will almost certainly inevitably lose.
I see. I found it interesting. Sure, SH, could use a tweak (also, I think if they looked less grotesque, people might actually like them more). But, overall, it's been a different kind of ZvT. Keep in mind too, that it is a relatively new style with both Scarlett and QCX unused to playing it. Given time and practice it might get a lot better. Or a lot worse. But, that remains to be seen.
On January 26 2014 08:27 Darkhoarse wrote: This game kinda sucks. Not like firecake vs Mana sucks, but it sucks.
Why?
Most things are more interesting than watching locusts constantly running into the meat grinder that is qxc's tank line knowing that qxc will almost certainly inevitably lose.
I see. I've found it interesting. Sure, SH, could use a tweak (also, I think if they looked less grotesque, people might actually like them more). But, overall, it's been a different kind of ZvT. Keep in mind too, that it is relatively new with both Scarlett and QCX not used to playing it. Given time and practice it might get a lot better. Or a lot worse. But, that remains to be seen.
Oh I don't think that OVERALL the game was bad, and both players made interesting strategic decisions, just at a certain phase of the game nothing was happening except locusts getting smeared on the floor and Scarlett killing ~2-3 units per minute by pulling them to the spores.
On January 26 2014 08:26 aZealot wrote: Scarlett's extracted so much value from her Vipers. Both blinding cloud and abduct have been so effective for her.
On January 26 2014 08:33 Zheryn wrote: I would like to see Scarlett playing against someone using yamato/PDD/HSM, would be interesting.
Absolutely, of course she would play even more passive to avoid the HSM and Yamotos, but if you're looking to kill a weekend or so it would be awesome.
On January 26 2014 08:27 Darkhoarse wrote: This game kinda sucks. Not like firecake vs Mana sucks, but it sucks.
Why?
Most things are more interesting than watching locusts constantly running into the meat grinder that is qxc's tank line knowing that qxc will almost certainly inevitably lose.
Well, qxc could have forfeited ten minutes earlier. I think that if he is complaining about the game in-game (the chat etc.) then surely he must have known he was going to lose and should have forfeited.
On January 26 2014 08:33 Zheryn wrote: I would like to see Scarlett playing against someone using yamato/PDD/HSM, would be interesting.
Absolutely, of course she would play even more passive to avoid the HSM and Yamotos, but if you're looking to kill a weekend or so it would be awesome.
She didn't have much of a choice, in my honest opinion. She played safe, given that QXC was at that point sort of a bit ahead in tech and units. Then he got the humongous number of b-cruisers, which was way too risky for her.
I mean, these matches are easy to judge but I think everyone would've done the same, with the patient and cautious abductions and all that.
On January 26 2014 08:33 Zheryn wrote: I would like to see Scarlett playing against someone using yamato/PDD/HSM, would be interesting.
Absolutely, of course she would play even more passive to avoid the HSM and Yamotos, but if you're looking to kill a weekend or so it would be awesome.
She didn't have much of a choice, in my honest opinion. She played safe, given that QXC was at that point sort of a bit ahead in tech and units. Then he got the humongous number of b-cruisers, which was way too risky for her.
I mean, these matches are easy to judge but I think everyone would've done the same, with the patient and cautious abductions and all that.
Never said it was her fault in any way. This is how zerg has to play vs turtle mech, You out-turtle the turtle.
Also, it seems kind of obvious that Kane and Suppy know Scarlett very well, she lost three games in a row to extremely aggressive builds in ZvZ to people that are a part of the NA zerg skype group. Please dear spaghetti monster play safe now.
Also, it seems kind of obvious that Kane and Suppy know Scarlett very well, she lost three games in a row to extremely aggressive builds in ZvZ to people that are a part of the NA zerg skype group. Please dear spaghetti monster play safe now.
Out-turtle the turtle xD That's some sort of turtle inception, let's see how deep we can get.
Had no idea that they're skype friends; sort of explains how they all are way too familiar with her playstyle, yeah.
Also, it seems kind of obvious that Kane and Suppy know Scarlett very well, she lost three games in a row to extremely aggressive builds in ZvZ to people that are a part of the NA zerg skype group. Please dear spaghetti monster play safe now.
Out-turtle the turtle xD That's some sort of turtle inception, let's see how deep we can get.
Had no idea that they're skype friends; sort of explains how they all are way too familiar with her playstyle, yeah.
I think TotalBiscuit nicknamed it the "Zerg Cabal". A lot of the better NA Zergs all frequently talk to each other about strategy, ever since the end of WoL.
WOW! How about that?! Scarlett began yesterday AND today with losses, and ended up advancing from both.
On January 26 2014 09:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: It's as if she likes to get behind just to comeback every time.
You're right there, and I think it has to be her style to learn the opponent at first, then adapt and come out victorious in the end - somehow in the end of these groups, when you look at the big picture, she of all gave the best shows.
Just to see her comebacks, man, she adds SO MUCH show to this game.
Tbh, I think Scarlett is probably out of practice. The longer she plays the more she recovers her old form, which is why she can still win in the end.
Also, wrt scarlett vs qxc: shouldn't you do some zergling run-by's to try and kill the opponent's production facilities? qxc was just sitting in one spot.
On January 26 2014 09:19 vult wrote: God, when Scarlett is on her game, her play is immaculate. Also, Canada prevails.
Canadia always prevails, the staunch Canadans can master everything from Hockey to curling to starcraft to using fucking cavalry in 2014 because fuck tanks. Such nation, much amazing, wow.
On January 26 2014 09:19 vult wrote: God, when Scarlett is on her game, her play is immaculate. Also, Canada prevails.
Canadia always prevails, the staunch Canadans can master everything from Hockey to curling to starcraft to using fucking cavalry in 2014 because fuck tanks. Such nation, much amazing, wow.
Hey now, our RCMP can beat up your tanks- wait. I dunno if that's accurate. :S
On January 26 2014 09:18 Grumbels wrote: Tbh, I think Scarlett is probably out of practice. The longer she plays the more she recovers her old form, which is why she can still win in the end.
Also, wrt scarlett vs qxc: shouldn't you do some zergling run-by's to try and kill the opponent's production facilities? qxc was just sitting in one spot.
They just die to siege tanks, and they have no attack upgrades either. Better to just spam more static def. It's part of the problem with late game mech, it encourages a play style from Z that is almost completely passive to the point of inactivity once you have established a strong position. Multi pronged attacks and the zergy style of run-bys and harassment are simply ineffective against this style.
Also Intothebu-eh heart, I've pretty much idolized Canada for the last 15 years, it's like my favorite country in the world.
On January 26 2014 09:19 vult wrote: God, when Scarlett is on her game, her play is immaculate. Also, Canada prevails.
Canadia always prevails, the staunch Canadans can master everything from Hockey to curling to starcraft to using fucking cavalry in 2014 because fuck tanks. Such nation, much amazing, wow.
Scarlett has been letting Americans start ahead, then crushes their dreams. Who says Canadians are nice?
On January 26 2014 09:18 Grumbels wrote: Tbh, I think Scarlett is probably out of practice. The longer she plays the more she recovers her old form, which is why she can still win in the end.
It was her wrist problem, she had to rest because of it - does anyone know if she fully recovered?
You never really fully recover as long as you keep training. I've had and still have injuries like that. My hands are pretty much fucked when it comes to fine motor skills, and that's just how it is now. Look at MVP, he was never really the same again. You could make a similar case for Flash in some ways I guess.
On January 26 2014 09:18 Grumbels wrote: Tbh, I think Scarlett is probably out of practice. The longer she plays the more she recovers her old form, which is why she can still win in the end.
Also, wrt scarlett vs qxc: shouldn't you do some zergling run-by's to try and kill the opponent's production facilities? qxc was just sitting in one spot.
They just die to siege tanks, and they have no attack upgrades either. Better to just spam more static def. It's part of the problem with late game mech, it encourages a play style from Z that is almost completely passive to the point of inactivity once you have established a strong position. Multi pronged attacks and the zergy style of run-bys and harassment are simply ineffective against this style.
Also Intothebu-eh heart, I've pretty much idolized Canada for the last 15 years, it's like my favorite country in the world.
You should pop by and visit at some point then. :D
I am very much enjoying this tournament, NO faceless Koreans!!!! I love to see NA players get attention and it is INFINITELY more entertaining! ! Catz and Destiny are comedy GENIUS!!!! I love it sooo much!.. PRIME timE here we come!!!! eSPORTS!!
On January 26 2014 09:18 Grumbels wrote: Tbh, I think Scarlett is probably out of practice. The longer she plays the more she recovers her old form, which is why she can still win in the end.
Also, wrt scarlett vs qxc: shouldn't you do some zergling run-by's to try and kill the opponent's production facilities? qxc was just sitting in one spot.
They just die to siege tanks, and they have no attack upgrades either. Better to just spam more static def. It's part of the problem with late game mech, it encourages a play style from Z that is almost completely passive to the point of inactivity once you have established a strong position. Multi pronged attacks and the zergy style of run-bys and harassment are simply ineffective against this style.
Also Intothebu-eh heart, I've pretty much idolized Canada for the last 15 years, it's like my favorite country in the world.
You should pop by and visit at some point then. :D
Just be careful of the weather.
I've actually been once, to Toronto, a friend of mine knows some folks in the NHL so we got a hold of some pretty good tickets. It just seems like a nice place to live. Also I am an outdoors kind of person, and If there is one thing Canada has no shortage of it's space.
Weather-wise, well I live in Sweden so it was kind of like coming home, except everyone sounded like Jim Carrey, so a definitive improvement.
On January 26 2014 09:18 Grumbels wrote: Tbh, I think Scarlett is probably out of practice. The longer she plays the more she recovers her old form, which is why she can still win in the end.
Also, wrt scarlett vs qxc: shouldn't you do some zergling run-by's to try and kill the opponent's production facilities? qxc was just sitting in one spot.
They just die to siege tanks, and they have no attack upgrades either. Better to just spam more static def. It's part of the problem with late game mech, it encourages a play style from Z that is almost completely passive to the point of inactivity once you have established a strong position. Multi pronged attacks and the zergy style of run-bys and harassment are simply ineffective against this style.
Also Intothebu-eh heart, I've pretty much idolized Canada for the last 15 years, it's like my favorite country in the world.
You should pop by and visit at some point then. :D
Just be careful of the weather.
I've actually been once, to Toronto, a friend of mine knows some folks in the NHL so we got a hold of some pretty good tickets. It just seems like a nice place to live. Also I am an outdoors kind of person, and If there is one thing Canada has no shortage of it's space.
Weather-wise, well I live in Sweden so it was kind of like coming home, except everyone sounded like Jim Carrey, so a definitive improvement.
As long as you dressed for the weather. :D
That's probably all that I needed to point out though, I can't think of any places that are just complete "don't go here unless you wanna get mugged." I'm not guaranteeing your safety by any stretch of the imagination, but violence in the streets is definitely rare.
Minigun has pretty much clowned every opponent so far, he has to be the favorite to take the whole thing right now. He's just looked a cut above everyone else.
On January 26 2014 09:43 SoSexy wrote: I hate that you have to watch on this external website without adblock. I get the same ad 4-5 times in a row and it's driving me crazy...
yeah it sure sucks to support something by doing literally nothing. a damn shame man
On January 26 2014 10:40 stuchiu wrote: Wait, can you manually target mines? I keep getting conflicting answers.
This has been fairly well-known since the Beta. It was a common theory-craft trick to manually switch targeting before the mine actually attacks so you don't get any dud shots (or reveal the mine locations).
No one's actually done it to meaningful degree, though.
On January 26 2014 11:00 sparklyresidue wrote: Wait, what just happened?
Major ridiculously outplayed Puck for 20+ minutes, moved forward about 5 pixels too far, then got double Time Warped and discovered that Puck's 'T' key was in excellent condition. Downhill from there, capped by another massive Storm shower.
On January 26 2014 11:00 sparklyresidue wrote: Wait, what just happened?
protoss happened
I went downstairs to get my rice off the stove with Major up ~70 supply and on an additional base. Did he srsly lose?
Like Yrr above said, he overbuild marines and didnt' have enough marauders and ate too many storms.
Look, fair enough, but you can understand the frustration looking at all the ridiculous damage Major did to Puck. Multiple drops that savaged his economy, 8-10 Widow Mines that racked up 5-10 kills apiece, both Probes and units, up 4 base to 3, and he is undone by one battle where Protoss got a little bit lucky? I mean, you gotta feel for both him and people watching.
Maybe, just maybe, versus the person making fuck loads of Archons and Templar he should have continued to make Ghosts throughout the mid and lategame. Nah, fuck that, lets make more Marines and Marauders and then lose and blame imbalance. It's way easier.
On January 26 2014 11:00 sparklyresidue wrote: Wait, what just happened?
protoss happened
I went downstairs to get my rice off the stove with Major up ~70 supply and on an additional base. Did he srsly lose?
Like Yrr above said, he overbuild marines and didnt' have enough marauders and ate too many storms.
Look, fair enough, but you can understand the frustration looking at all the ridiculous damage Major did to Puck. Multiple drops that savaged his economy, 8-10 Widow Mines that racked up 5-10 kills apiece, both Probes and units, up 4 base to 3, and he is undone by one battle where Protoss got a little bit lucky? I mean, you gotta feel for both him and people watching.
I agree, major probably deserved the win. Protoss is forgiving, but at least the winrates are 50/50 right?
On January 26 2014 11:00 sparklyresidue wrote: Wait, what just happened?
protoss happened
I went downstairs to get my rice off the stove with Major up ~70 supply and on an additional base. Did he srsly lose?
Like Yrr above said, he overbuild marines and didnt' have enough marauders and ate too many storms.
Look, fair enough, but you can understand the frustration looking at all the ridiculous damage Major did to Puck. Multiple drops that savaged his economy, 8-10 Widow Mines that racked up 5-10 kills apiece, both Probes and units, up 4 base to 3, and he is undone by one battle where Protoss got a little bit lucky? I mean, you gotta feel for both him and people watching.
Making more marauder against chargelots is not considered a smart move. Their dps against non-armored unit is terrible compared to marines.
On January 26 2014 11:06 sparklyresidue wrote: What were the upgrades like at the "climactic moment"?
Either 2-2 (Puck) v 1-1 (Major) or 2-2 v 2-1. Something like that. But the upgrades had very little to do with it, because there were literally only Templar followed by morphing Archons involved on the Protoss side when the big hit happened, and Storm ignores armor.
On January 26 2014 11:00 sparklyresidue wrote: Wait, what just happened?
protoss happened
I went downstairs to get my rice off the stove with Major up ~70 supply and on an additional base. Did he srsly lose?
Like Yrr above said, he overbuild marines and didnt' have enough marauders and ate too many storms.
Look, fair enough, but you can understand the frustration looking at all the ridiculous damage Major did to Puck. Multiple drops that savaged his economy, 8-10 Widow Mines that racked up 5-10 kills apiece, both Probes and units, up 4 base to 3, and he is undone by one battle where Protoss got a little bit lucky? I mean, you gotta feel for both him and people watching.
Making more marauder against chargelots is not considered a smart move. Their dps against non-armored unit is terrible compared to marines.
Great game from major. Keeping a good balance of tanks and hellbats, denying expos, great macro, and good army positioning. Fun game to watch for sure.
On January 26 2014 11:48 Undead1993 wrote: you have to respect the immortals
Thanks Wolf.
ye np but the truth is a vr transition would have been very helpful, no idea why minigun didn't try to go for stargates as soon as he saw that this is mech, but then again his economy got denied by major pretty well. sigh, gogo minigun bring it back
On January 26 2014 11:52 Darkhoarse wrote: So I don't know the first thing about mechvP from the toss perspective.
Would you want to get skytoss? seems like voidray/tempest would be pretty darn good.
Yeah, Skytoss is usually the way to go. Major had a significant eco advantage in that game, though, from his CC first to a significantly faster third base. I don't think Minigun had much of a window to do much damage, and the consistent pressure from Major meant that he did not have time and resources to safely transition into a Skytoss based composition.
On January 26 2014 11:52 Darkhoarse wrote: So I don't know the first thing about mechvP from the toss perspective.
Would you want to get skytoss? seems like voidray/tempest would be pretty darn good.
Carriers I think are superior to voidray/tempest. As for what Toss should do, I think he made a mistake with getting that 4th at the close bottom left. Should have taken lhe corners. Mech is immobile, at best Major can send drops, but warped in stalkers +cannons + dts can deal with that fairly easily. I personally like going fast 4 base mass gateways into either triple robo or triple stargate hidden carriers. Archons and hts are nice-ish, but the immortal/carriers way out dps the mech army and if they overcomit to vikings, you can run them over with chargelots.
Of course I'm only talking with about 2 months of experience as I only played MechvP was only popular for about 2 months in WoL.
On January 26 2014 11:52 Darkhoarse wrote: So I don't know the first thing about mechvP from the toss perspective.
Would you want to get skytoss? seems like voidray/tempest would be pretty darn good.
Yeah, Skytoss is usually the way to go. Major had a significant eco advantage in that game, though, from his CC first to a significantly faster third base. I don't think Minigun had much of a window to do much damage, and the pressure from Major meant that he did not have time to safely transition into a Skytoss based composition.
Oh yeah seemed like a tough transition to make, but I guess that's the composition you want?
Hopefully this is the proper place for mlg.tv feedback. Wow is all I can say I live in the midwest with comcast at 50/10 getting speeds at 57/11. MLG.tv is the worst thing I have ever experienced in online streaming. Unwatchable half the time. The other half its lagging so much that I cannot even tell whats going on. I think they need to revamp the entire streaming system or just let twitch handle the big boy work becuase between today and thursday it was fucking ridiculous. I'm literally gouging out my fucking eyes because my connection is so god damn fast and this service is so god damn horrible that it wont even load 360p without buffering constantly. Completely utterly awful.
On January 26 2014 11:52 Darkhoarse wrote: So I don't know the first thing about mechvP from the toss perspective.
Would you want to get skytoss? seems like voidray/tempest would be pretty darn good.
Yeah, Skytoss is usually the way to go. Major had a significant eco advantage in that game, though, from his CC first to a significantly faster third base. I don't think Minigun had much of a window to do much damage, and the pressure from Major meant that he did not have time to safely transition into a Skytoss based composition.
Oh yeah seemed like a tough transition to make, but I guess that's the composition you want?
Yeah, along with a Templar/Robo based army on the ground - but the meat of the army is the "Golden Armada".
On January 26 2014 12:01 Squat wrote: Wtf, what happened? Was gone for 2 mins for some water
Major went for hellion/widow mine drop combined with marines and a few scv's for bunkers at Mini's natural. 2 stalkers, an oracle, and a photon overcharge got the GG
On January 26 2014 12:01 SchfiftyFive wrote: Hopefully this is the proper place for mlg.tv feedback. Wow is all I can say I live in the midwest with comcast at 50/10 getting speeds at 57/11. MLG.tv is the worst thing I have ever experienced in online streaming. Unwatchable half the time. The other half its lagging so much that I cannot even tell whats going on. I think they need to revamp the entire streaming system or just let twitch handle the big boy work becuase between today and thursday it was fucking ridiculous. I'm literally gouging out my fucking eyes because my connection is so god damn fast and this service is so god damn horrible that it wont even load 360p without buffering constantly. Completely utterly awful.
Are you seeing a doctor for those gouged-out eyes? Literally removed organs are often a pretty big problem.
On January 26 2014 12:01 SchfiftyFive wrote: Hopefully this is the proper place for mlg.tv feedback. Wow is all I can say I live in the midwest with comcast at 50/10 getting speeds at 57/11. MLG.tv is the worst thing I have ever experienced in online streaming. Unwatchable half the time. The other half its lagging so much that I cannot even tell whats going on. I think they need to revamp the entire streaming system or just let twitch handle the big boy work becuase between today and thursday it was fucking ridiculous. I'm literally gouging out my fucking eyes because my connection is so god damn fast and this service is so god damn horrible that it wont even load 360p without buffering constantly. Completely utterly awful.
Are you seeing a doctor for those gouged-out eyes? Literally removed organs are often a pretty big problem.
On January 26 2014 12:01 SchfiftyFive wrote: Hopefully this is the proper place for mlg.tv feedback. Wow is all I can say I live in the midwest with comcast at 50/10 getting speeds at 57/11. MLG.tv is the worst thing I have ever experienced in online streaming. Unwatchable half the time. The other half its lagging so much that I cannot even tell whats going on. I think they need to revamp the entire streaming system or just let twitch handle the big boy work becuase between today and thursday it was fucking ridiculous. I'm literally gouging out my fucking eyes because my connection is so god damn fast and this service is so god damn horrible that it wont even load 360p without buffering constantly. Completely utterly awful.
Are you seeing a doctor for those gouged-out eyes? Literally removed organs are often a pretty big problem.
On January 26 2014 12:01 SchfiftyFive wrote: Hopefully this is the proper place for mlg.tv feedback. Wow is all I can say I live in the midwest with comcast at 50/10 getting speeds at 57/11. MLG.tv is the worst thing I have ever experienced in online streaming. Unwatchable half the time. The other half its lagging so much that I cannot even tell whats going on. I think they need to revamp the entire streaming system or just let twitch handle the big boy work becuase between today and thursday it was fucking ridiculous. I'm literally gouging out my fucking eyes because my connection is so god damn fast and this service is so god damn horrible that it wont even load 360p without buffering constantly. Completely utterly awful.
Are you seeing a doctor for those gouged-out eyes? Literally removed organs are often a pretty big problem.
ahahahahahaa
I'm glad somebody caught that.
Also,
"225 APM, which is more than twice what you'd expect out of a Protoss player."
On January 26 2014 12:19 SniXSniPe wrote: lol, basically equal armies besides upgrades and Minigun's whole army practically gets hit with EMPs rendering the templar useless and he still wins
omg. neeb didnt emp himself, the observer arrived. gotta turn the stream off again. i hate myself for giving destiny a chance. oh wait, i like to watch - so I'll just mute mr. bonnell
On January 26 2014 13:23 boxerfred wrote: omg. neeb didnt emp himself, the observer arrived. gotta turn the stream off again. i hate myself for giving destiny a chance. oh wait, i like to watch - so I'll just mute mr. bonnell
On January 26 2014 13:25 PaeZ wrote: Is the stream lagging for you guys? The last 2 days were awesome but for some reason is laggy as fuck today
It's been up and down the last 2 days for me, pretty bad right now for sure.
Yeah, for some reason now is just unwatchable ... I have an awesome connection so probably the lag is on their part So sad.. I wanted to watch Major vs Puck T_T
On January 26 2014 13:25 PaeZ wrote: Is the stream lagging for you guys? The last 2 days were awesome but for some reason is laggy as fuck today
It's been up and down the last 2 days for me, pretty bad right now for sure.
Yeah, for some reason now is just unwatchable ... I have an awesome connection so probably the lag is on their part So sad.. I wanted to watch Major vs Puck T_T
I am having absolutely 0 lag on 720p. Don't know what is going on, but it's not something that necessarily originates with them.
On January 26 2014 13:49 stuchiu wrote: Code geass is the anime he's talking about.
He purposefully trolled about 50% of the anime's explanation though, infusing it with elements from various other things that are not present ("Code Geisha", lol).
EPT![[image loading]](http://wordpress.tools.majorleaguegaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Header.jpg)
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gameon.gg![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xYABn.png)
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Kane vs. ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/2593.jpg)
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qxc![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/L6Pww.png)
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Minigun vs. ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/1173.jpg)
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