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[ASUS ROG] @NorthCon Day 2 2013 - Page 197

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Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
December 07 2013 22:24 GMT
#3921
Such an awesome final, for a ZvZ...

Probably best ZvZ series ever incoming. :O
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
December 07 2013 22:24 GMT
#3922
On December 08 2013 07:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:20 Pandain wrote:
As a Jaedong fan, I feel obliged to post this.
Remember this guys




Remember that "never die" means "never die". I love you, Jaedong <3

n.Die_Jaedong <3
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 07 2013 22:25 GMT
#3923
On December 08 2013 07:23 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:17 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:14 Melliflue wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:11 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:10 StutteR wrote:
Wait why is Soulkey not in Proleague?


Hard to participate with 2 players. Really hope they can ally with someone though

Which pro league team wouldn't want Soulkey and sOs? It would be a shame if they weren't in pro league next season.


Would be awesome if there was like a team of players that want to participate but their team can't. You could have a team with Soulkey, sOs, Jaedong, HerO, Taeja, San and possibly others :O

Taeja doesn't want to. he got the chance with egtl but only played a couple of times.


He was receiving wrist treatment during that time
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
looken
Profile Joined September 2011
727 Posts
December 07 2013 22:25 GMT
#3924
please JD, i beg you, please take it!!!
"Jingle Bells, Tasteless smells" Artosis 17.12.15
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45248 Posts
December 07 2013 22:25 GMT
#3925
On December 08 2013 07:24 absinthfee wrote:
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On December 08 2013 07:23 Packawana wrote:
There has to be some sort of plot twist here or controversy. The laws of the universe dictate that a foreigner can't win and Jaedong can't win until 2014.


Would be funny if it would be a tie.


In before Artosis predicts a tie.

But in all seriousness, someone check his Twitter for the loser.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
December 07 2013 22:25 GMT
#3926
On December 08 2013 07:24 Nibbler89 wrote:
What song is this playing on stream atm?

Pokerface - Lady Gaga.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 07 2013 22:25 GMT
#3927
On December 08 2013 07:24 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:21 StutteR wrote:
Never die was his clan in BW btw

Did it ... die?

soO was in the same clan at one point I believe.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 07 2013 22:25 GMT
#3928
On December 08 2013 07:24 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:20 Pandain wrote:
As a Jaedong fan, I feel obliged to post this.
Remember this guys
https://twitter.com/EGJaedong/status/399369801719488512



Remember that "never die" means "never die". I love you, Jaedong <3

n.Die_Jaedong <3

n.Die_soO <3
Glorious SEA doto
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
December 07 2013 22:25 GMT
#3929
On December 08 2013 07:23 The_Templar wrote:
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On December 08 2013 07:23 aZealot wrote:
Is the final on soon? I may actually watch this. A pretty cool story too: a foreigner vs JD finally winning something.

should be in ~6 minutes


Thank you. I guess a shower can wait. :D
KT best KT ~ 2014
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 07 2013 22:25 GMT
#3930
On December 08 2013 07:24 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:21 StutteR wrote:
Never die was his clan in BW btw

Did it ... die?


n.Die is still around. I get the joke, but yeah it's still around -.^
Radicalness
Profile Joined September 2011
United States271 Posts
December 07 2013 22:25 GMT
#3931
On December 08 2013 06:59 purakushi wrote:
GJ Jaedong!

I feel that even if he wins this tournament, it won't really feel like it counts like winning one of the other tournaments he got second place in. This may be a premier tournament, but it is just not as epic.

Oh well, just means he'll win another tournament later


Sure, it's not as epic as if he won some of the tournaments he got second in but it will be a huge monkey off his back if he wins. He really needs this win.
The Devil Terran - The Ambitious Terran - The Towel Terran - The Macro Master Terran - The Tyrant
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45248 Posts
December 07 2013 22:25 GMT
#3932
On December 08 2013 07:25 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:24 ACrow wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:21 StutteR wrote:
Never die was his clan in BW btw

Did it ... die?

soO was in the same clan at one point I believe.


Yes he was. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/N.Die_soO
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 07 2013 22:26 GMT
#3933
On December 08 2013 07:25 aZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:23 The_Templar wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:23 aZealot wrote:
Is the final on soon? I may actually watch this. A pretty cool story too: a foreigner vs JD finally winning something.

should be in ~6 minutes


Thank you. I guess a shower can wait. :D

I'm just guessing, says 11:30 pm CET on stream and it's 11:25pm right now if I'm working out the numbers correctly
Moderatorshe/her
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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9420 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 22:27:16
December 07 2013 22:26 GMT
#3934
On December 08 2013 07:24 Hiea wrote:
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On December 08 2013 07:21 Hider wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:06 Hiea wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:03 Hider wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:01 Hiea wrote:
On December 08 2013 06:59 TheDwf wrote:
On December 08 2013 06:58 Hiea wrote:
If Innovation had just kept on making SCV's after that he would have won that game easily.

He had this amount of units precisely because he cut SCVs.


He should have started SCV's when once he pushed into the natural, after his units there then got cleaned up he should have gone home, if he had done that he would have a lot of medivacs, about 55 SCV's by the time the mutas got cross map.

However he doesn't have the power of the observer, he probably thought he was further behind than he was.


Nah he had the same information as we did - JD basically had 71 drones and no army with Mutas soon to be coming out. If he really wanted to cut scv's, he should have just pulled at the time he made the initial pressure. Pulling after the initial pressure makes no sense regardless of how you look at it.


He may have seen some things, but the way he played he thought he was further behind than he actually was.

If you're behind then you have 2 options, go extreme greed, which only works really early game (before 10 minutes), or attack and hope for a miracle, if he understood the positions he would have stopped attacking, which is why I think he misread something or just kinda derped in the end, who knows.


I don't think that makes sense. If he was further behind economically than he actually was --> It makes sense to go for an allin.

However, that's extremely unlikely as JD in reality had 71 drones, which meant that he probably assessed that situation correctly (he was in reality super far behind economically).

If he was further behind army-wise ---> doens't make sense to all in --> makes sense to play a passive game and avoid army trading.

Chances are that he asseesed the situation correctly but made the wrong decision in not pulling scv's with the first push.

Dont ever pull SCV's vs a zerg with banelings :D it can work against protoss, but against zerg it is just worthless once banelings are available, the chances of you damaging the zerg so much with 1 attack is near impossible.


That's not the point at all though.
The point is that if he wanted to pull scv's/allins, then it didn't make sense to do it after the initial marine pressure. He should have pulled them the first time. That might actually have won the game as JD forgot baneling nest.

If he just wanted to go for normal marine pressure, he should have continued scv production, because a follow up in that situation can never be strong enough.
cravin74
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1088 Posts
December 07 2013 22:26 GMT
#3935
On December 08 2013 07:25 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:24 Nibbler89 wrote:
What song is this playing on stream atm?

Pokerface - Lady Gaga.


The lyrics are quite funny with Jaedong being shown on stream
Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
December 07 2013 22:26 GMT
#3936
Pokerface playing while showing JD on camera? Coincidence?
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
December 07 2013 22:26 GMT
#3937
CARRY MAH CARRY MAH
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
December 07 2013 22:26 GMT
#3938
On December 08 2013 07:25 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:24 Elroi wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:20 Pandain wrote:
As a Jaedong fan, I feel obliged to post this.
Remember this guys
https://twitter.com/EGJaedong/status/399369801719488512



Remember that "never die" means "never die". I love you, Jaedong <3

n.Die_Jaedong <3

n.Die_soO <3

pls.Die_soO
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
December 07 2013 22:27 GMT
#3939
On December 08 2013 07:24 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:21 StutteR wrote:
Never die was his clan in BW btw

Did it ... die?


Actually it did not
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
December 07 2013 22:27 GMT
#3940
On December 08 2013 07:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:24 absinthfee wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:23 Packawana wrote:
There has to be some sort of plot twist here or controversy. The laws of the universe dictate that a foreigner can't win and Jaedong can't win until 2014.


Would be funny if it would be a tie.


In before Artosis predicts a tie.

But in all seriousness, someone check his Twitter for the loser.


He very coyly tweeted "Scarlett or Jaedong?" to which I replied...

'Don't you dare say a damn thing, just sit back, and enjoy the games."

Because the last thing we need is his curse, and the last thing he needs is to provide more confirmation of the curse.

Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
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