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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 07 2013 22:27 GMT
#3941
On December 08 2013 07:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:25 BigFan wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:24 ACrow wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:21 StutteR wrote:
Never die was his clan in BW btw

Did it ... die?

soO was in the same clan at one point I believe.


Yes he was. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/N.Die_soO

ya, I saw that when I was watching OSL 2011 and they had that id. That game 1 against Jangbi was pretty nuts lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands657 Posts
December 07 2013 22:27 GMT
#3942
On December 08 2013 07:26 cravin74 wrote:
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On December 08 2013 07:25 Aeromi wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:24 Nibbler89 wrote:
What song is this playing on stream atm?

Pokerface - Lady Gaga.


The lyrics are quite funny with Jaedong being shown on stream


Would be even better if they had shown BoxeR somewhere
Cute
Gaskal
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada241 Posts
December 07 2013 22:27 GMT
#3943
Can't read my,
Can't read my,
No one can read my Donger face!
"Get all the money, build all the units...kill the other guy"
absinthfee
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany718 Posts
December 07 2013 22:28 GMT
#3944
On December 08 2013 07:26 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:24 Hiea wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:21 Hider wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:06 Hiea wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:03 Hider wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:01 Hiea wrote:
On December 08 2013 06:59 TheDwf wrote:
On December 08 2013 06:58 Hiea wrote:
If Innovation had just kept on making SCV's after that he would have won that game easily.

He had this amount of units precisely because he cut SCVs.


He should have started SCV's when once he pushed into the natural, after his units there then got cleaned up he should have gone home, if he had done that he would have a lot of medivacs, about 55 SCV's by the time the mutas got cross map.

However he doesn't have the power of the observer, he probably thought he was further behind than he was.


Nah he had the same information as we did - JD basically had 71 drones and no army with Mutas soon to be coming out. If he really wanted to cut scv's, he should have just pulled at the time he made the initial pressure. Pulling after the initial pressure makes no sense regardless of how you look at it.


He may have seen some things, but the way he played he thought he was further behind than he actually was.

If you're behind then you have 2 options, go extreme greed, which only works really early game (before 10 minutes), or attack and hope for a miracle, if he understood the positions he would have stopped attacking, which is why I think he misread something or just kinda derped in the end, who knows.


I don't think that makes sense. If he was further behind economically than he actually was --> It makes sense to go for an allin.

However, that's extremely unlikely as JD in reality had 71 drones, which meant that he probably assessed that situation correctly (he was in reality super far behind economically).

If he was further behind army-wise ---> doens't make sense to all in --> makes sense to play a passive game and avoid army trading.

Chances are that he asseesed the situation correctly but made the wrong decision in not pulling scv's with the first push.

Dont ever pull SCV's vs a zerg with banelings :D it can work against protoss, but against zerg it is just worthless once banelings are available, the chances of you damaging the zerg so much with 1 attack is near impossible.


That's not the point at all though.
The point is that if he wanted to pull scv's/allins, then it didn't make sense to do it after the initial marine pressure. He should have pulled them the first time. That might actually have won the game as JD forgot baneling nest.

If he just wanted to go for normal marine pressure, he should have continued scv production, because a follow up in that situation can never be strong enough.


Imo he only pulled because he didnt wanna gg with an army left.
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
December 07 2013 22:28 GMT
#3945
On December 08 2013 07:24 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Boxer's themesong


Lol, well played
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
December 07 2013 22:28 GMT
#3946
On December 08 2013 07:20 Pandain wrote:
As a Jaedong fan, I feel obliged to post this.
Remember this guys




Remember this.
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands657 Posts
December 07 2013 22:28 GMT
#3947
Jaedong no speak Americano
Cute
TriZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Belgium379 Posts
December 07 2013 22:28 GMT
#3948
best track ever.
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
December 07 2013 22:28 GMT
#3949
On December 08 2013 07:24 Dinotramp wrote:
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On December 08 2013 07:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Lady Gaga. Now THIS is music.


That EG fandom goes hand in hand.

LOL. Geez, what is wrong with you? What did EG or their fans personally do to you? i'm sorry if I offended you by not being so serious all the time. : (.
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
December 07 2013 22:28 GMT
#3950
WORST. MUSIC. EVER.

PLZ
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
December 07 2013 22:28 GMT
#3951
I think those musics are much better than the generic dubstep that every other tournaments puts in the break. (And I like good dubstep )
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
December 07 2013 22:29 GMT
#3952
On December 08 2013 07:28 Neemi wrote:
Jaedong no speak Americano


he actually speaks pretty good americano!!!!!!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
December 07 2013 22:29 GMT
#3953
The hell is this music hah
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
December 07 2013 22:29 GMT
#3954
On December 08 2013 07:28 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:24 Dinotramp wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Lady Gaga. Now THIS is music.


That EG fandom goes hand in hand.

LOL. Geez, what is wrong with you? What did EG or their fans personally do to you? i'm sorry if I offended you by not being so serious all the time. : (.


I just really hate their t shirt. Have you seen how fucking dreadful it is? It's ugly as shit.
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
Veroleg
Profile Joined May 2013
Austria76 Posts
December 07 2013 22:29 GMT
#3955
On December 08 2013 07:20 Dinotramp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:19 Veroleg wrote:
On December 08 2013 06:49 Andwhy wrote:
There is so much misinformation in this thread I had to log in and comment.

Innovation is certainly NOT the greatest RTS player of all time. In the Starcraft scene, that HAS to be Flash (or one of the other BW bonjwas). And that is entirely ignoring the solid WC3 scene, which is to discredit Grubby's achievements. Jaedong is good, and his consistency after the game switch is impressive, but looking at his body of work, he is certainly no Flash and maybe not even a Grubby.

you want to put jaedong below some bonjwa in some unknown game as well? because thats what youre doing with the grubby comparison. they arent equal in any way


"Unknown Game" wow...

youre equaling jaedong with some bonjwa in unknown games because youre comparing winrates and archievements across different games. some bonjwa in AoE isnt comparable to jaedong just because he has superior winrate and archievements to jaedong just as grubby isnt comparable cause hes never been anywhere near jaedong
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 07 2013 22:29 GMT
#3956
it's not like he ever went away guys. [image loading]
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
December 07 2013 22:29 GMT
#3957
Ok I decided to watch and endure pain called "Bo7 ZvZ". You better win JD or I'll quit watching SC2 tournaments. That's it, lets see...
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
Whiztard
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States241 Posts
December 07 2013 22:30 GMT
#3958
stare at jaedong for dayss
when Bisu switches to SC2...... (2014 update: sighh)
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
December 07 2013 22:30 GMT
#3959
On December 08 2013 07:29 Dinotramp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 07:28 tshi wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:24 Dinotramp wrote:
On December 08 2013 07:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Lady Gaga. Now THIS is music.


That EG fandom goes hand in hand.

LOL. Geez, what is wrong with you? What did EG or their fans personally do to you? i'm sorry if I offended you by not being so serious all the time. : (.


I just really hate their t shirt. Have you seen how fucking dreadful it is? It's ugly as shit.


Dude can you stop posting in this thread ? All your posts are filled with hate it's really awful. You are trying to destroy the good mood of this thread, why ?
Andwhy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States91 Posts
December 07 2013 22:30 GMT
#3960
I'm digging this jam. Not digging this wait time. Especially when it looks like the Kong is ready to roll.
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