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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
November 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#11061
On November 10 2013 11:48 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +

For those wondering why I cut off Sean at the end, TV production was the reason. They were yelling in my ear to wrap.



TV killing e-sports


What if the finale would've lasted 7 maps?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
November 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#11062
On November 10 2013 11:47 bourne117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 11:44 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:40 bourne117 wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:37 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:33 liberate71 wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:27 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:26 Uncultured wrote:
I will never forget S.O.S's leaping fist-pump after stealing the victory and leaving his booth. One of the best celebratory moments I've seen.

i would have been more humble after mentally destroying JD that way by psyching him out. It wasnt a classy way or a hard drawn out way of winning like 5 set tennis matches or overtime games.


hahahha what?

He won $100,000 and the biggest SC2 tournament ever, and he isnt allowed to cheer because he mind-gamed a fan favourite?

DiLiGu just said almost the exact opposite, hes faceless and has no personality.

You and him should discuss this at his next barcraft.

If you jump up and cheer after someone gets injured in a match and beat the team or player in a game. you should not jump up and down. There are appropriate moments to cheer like a maniac, IF SoS beat JD in a 7 game intense fight, I would have understood it. This series felt like a let-down since game one. I would not really cheer like a maniac after wiinning in 5 games to cheezing and psycing out the opponent. that's just how i feel

What the fuck is your problem dude. He just won 100k dollars and the biggest tournament of the year. It wasn't like cheering for someone being injured at all. It was like cheering for winning the superbowl. It doesn't matter how you did it. You won and deserve to celebrate.

if you win after scoring on a hail mary, you are going to react differently after winning 70-0. It a compeltely different feeling and emotional reaction. That is the point i am making. this series was one-sided and very disappointing from game one. it was like a football game like 50-7 or something like that. I would not cheer crazily after winning that easily.

It is very different in SC2 though. A football game is a singular game that can be obviously over for a long time. SC2 is a box format and each game is always close because the player ends it as soon as it is over. The game never turns into a 70-0 mess (unless its like fantasy gg timings). A better comparison would be winning the NBA title 4-1 after 4 really close games. And you better believe those players are celebrating. (And they would be celebrating the 70-0 if it meant winning the title like this game meant for sOs.

well said. It's how you celebrate which is what we're discussing. jumping up and down like a little child is not approved, but it is a free world i guess. If sOs won in a game 7 or game 6 in intense matches, i would be very happy for him and expect him to go nuts. but you make good points.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#11063
On November 10 2013 11:50 Shellshock wrote:
I nominate moving Symbol to spinecrawlers and suhosin to nydus worm because of Symbol late game


But Symbol is 17-4 with Nydus D:
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tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
November 10 2013 02:51 GMT
#11064
On November 10 2013 11:48 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +

For those wondering why I cut off Sean at the end, TV production was the reason. They were yelling in my ear to wrap.

https://twitter.com/djWHEAT/status/399363958999482369

TV killing e-sports

It must have made this guy happy:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434813&currentpage=490#9799
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
November 10 2013 02:51 GMT
#11065
On November 10 2013 11:50 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 11:50 Shellshock wrote:
I nominate moving Symbol to spinecrawlers and suhosin to nydus worm because of Symbol late game


But Symbol is 17-4 with Nydus D:

but suhosin is suhosin
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
November 10 2013 02:51 GMT
#11066
On November 10 2013 11:48 chatuka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 11:45 Rostam wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:42 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:40 Zorkmid wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:37 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:33 liberate71 wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:27 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:26 Uncultured wrote:
I will never forget S.O.S's leaping fist-pump after stealing the victory and leaving his booth. One of the best celebratory moments I've seen.

i would have been more humble after mentally destroying JD that way by psyching him out. It wasnt a classy way or a hard drawn out way of winning like 5 set tennis matches or overtime games.


hahahha what?

He won $100,000 and the biggest SC2 tournament ever, and he isnt allowed to cheer because he mind-gamed a fan favourite?

DiLiGu just said almost the exact opposite, hes faceless and has no personality.

You and him should discuss this at his next barcraft.

If you jump up and cheer after someone gets injured in a match and beat the team or player in a game. you should not jump up and down. There are appropriate moments to cheer like a maniac, IF SoS beat JD in a 7 game intense fight, I would have understood it. This series felt like a let-down since game one. I would not really cheer like a maniac after wiinning in 5 games to cheezing and psycing out the opponent. that's just how i feel


That's kinda silly. Are you saying that sOs should apologize for outplaying his opponent?

It was more of a psychological meltdown from JD from the mindgaming. there are moments to jump for joy like winning a game 7 or palying intense series or matches. This whole series was let-down since game one in my view. JD was already tanked mentally after not being mentally prepared for a sneaky player that is willing to risk it all. It was too easy at that point once JD was on full tilt.


There are moments to jump for joy like winning the biggest tournament of your life and $100,000.

The guy practiced unknowable thousands of hours, he's poured his entire heart and soul into this game, and when he finally achieves a big success to validate all his efforts you criticize him for being too happy?

yes i did. I don't like people who over-celebrate after drubbing opponents. It's not classy IMO. I am all for cheering, and being happy for winning. like shaking hands, a small fist pump. But going beserk would not be appropriate. I respect SoS as a player and his hard work and sacrifice to win money and fame. But, I think ettiquette is a big factor as well, when you handle losing and winning


First of all, its sOs, not SoS (this is making me laugh a lot though - thank you hahaha)
Secondly, these guys are like late teens, early 20's... they are full of emotions and energy despite what it may look like in game.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 10 2013 02:51 GMT
#11067
On November 10 2013 11:50 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 11:48 NovemberstOrm wrote:

For those wondering why I cut off Sean at the end, TV production was the reason. They were yelling in my ear to wrap.

https://twitter.com/djWHEAT/status/399363958999482369

TV killing e-sports


What if the finale would've lasted 7 maps?


DirecTV colluded with sOs????
Moderator
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
November 10 2013 02:52 GMT
#11068
On November 10 2013 11:51 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 11:50 Musicus wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:48 NovemberstOrm wrote:

For those wondering why I cut off Sean at the end, TV production was the reason. They were yelling in my ear to wrap.

https://twitter.com/djWHEAT/status/399363958999482369

TV killing e-sports


What if the finale would've lasted 7 maps?


DirecTV colluded with sOs????


oh snap, it comes out
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
November 10 2013 02:52 GMT
#11069
On November 10 2013 11:50 chatuka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 11:47 bourne117 wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:44 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:40 bourne117 wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:37 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:33 liberate71 wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:27 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:26 Uncultured wrote:
I will never forget S.O.S's leaping fist-pump after stealing the victory and leaving his booth. One of the best celebratory moments I've seen.

i would have been more humble after mentally destroying JD that way by psyching him out. It wasnt a classy way or a hard drawn out way of winning like 5 set tennis matches or overtime games.


hahahha what?

He won $100,000 and the biggest SC2 tournament ever, and he isnt allowed to cheer because he mind-gamed a fan favourite?

DiLiGu just said almost the exact opposite, hes faceless and has no personality.

You and him should discuss this at his next barcraft.

If you jump up and cheer after someone gets injured in a match and beat the team or player in a game. you should not jump up and down. There are appropriate moments to cheer like a maniac, IF SoS beat JD in a 7 game intense fight, I would have understood it. This series felt like a let-down since game one. I would not really cheer like a maniac after wiinning in 5 games to cheezing and psycing out the opponent. that's just how i feel

What the fuck is your problem dude. He just won 100k dollars and the biggest tournament of the year. It wasn't like cheering for someone being injured at all. It was like cheering for winning the superbowl. It doesn't matter how you did it. You won and deserve to celebrate.

if you win after scoring on a hail mary, you are going to react differently after winning 70-0. It a compeltely different feeling and emotional reaction. That is the point i am making. this series was one-sided and very disappointing from game one. it was like a football game like 50-7 or something like that. I would not cheer crazily after winning that easily.

It is very different in SC2 though. A football game is a singular game that can be obviously over for a long time. SC2 is a box format and each game is always close because the player ends it as soon as it is over. The game never turns into a 70-0 mess (unless its like fantasy gg timings). A better comparison would be winning the NBA title 4-1 after 4 really close games. And you better believe those players are celebrating. (And they would be celebrating the 70-0 if it meant winning the title like this game meant for sOs.

well said. It's how you celebrate which is what we're discussing. jumping up and down like a little child is not approved, but it is a free world i guess. If sOs won in a game 7 or game 6 in intense matches, i would be very happy for him and expect him to go nuts. but you make good points.

what do you mean jumping up and down is not approved. This man just won the most important tournament of his life.
you're just sore that JD lost and everyone has to sulk like you.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 10 2013 02:52 GMT
#11070
On November 10 2013 11:51 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 11:50 Musicus wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:48 NovemberstOrm wrote:

For those wondering why I cut off Sean at the end, TV production was the reason. They were yelling in my ear to wrap.

https://twitter.com/djWHEAT/status/399363958999482369

TV killing e-sports


What if the finale would've lasted 7 maps?


DirecTV colluded with sOs????


muahahahaha.
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
November 10 2013 02:52 GMT
#11071
Blizz should jus rig the tournament so the fan fav alwways wins and in the process destroy all competitive legitamacy and credibility their flagship esport title has...

You sourpuss jd fans are really trying to ruin an awesome tournament for everyone else because yr fav player has proven to be nothing but the biggest choker and kong in sc2 history...maybe one day he'll be on mvp's level but i doubt it.
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 02:53:58
November 10 2013 02:52 GMT
#11072
On November 10 2013 11:51 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 11:50 Musicus wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:48 NovemberstOrm wrote:

For those wondering why I cut off Sean at the end, TV production was the reason. They were yelling in my ear to wrap.

https://twitter.com/djWHEAT/status/399363958999482369

TV killing e-sports


What if the finale would've lasted 7 maps?


DirecTV colluded with sOs????


THE TRUTH HAS BEEN REVEALED

also tasteless is the ursadon
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
November 10 2013 02:52 GMT
#11073
Which Zerg was the one who made like 40 infestors against Bomber and won?
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
November 10 2013 02:53 GMT
#11074
On November 10 2013 11:52 forsooth wrote:
Which Zerg was the one who made like 40 infestors against Bomber and won?

freaky?
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 10 2013 02:53 GMT
#11075
On November 10 2013 11:52 forsooth wrote:
Which Zerg was the one who made like 40 infestors against Bomber and won?


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tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
November 10 2013 02:53 GMT
#11076
On November 10 2013 11:52 stratmatt wrote:
Blizz should jus rig the tournament so the fan fav alwways wins and in the process destroy all competitive legitamacy and credibility their flagship esport title has...

You sourpuss jd fans are really trying to ruin an awesome tournament for everyone else because yr fav player has proven to be nothing but the biggest choker and kong in sc2 history...maybe one day he'll be on mvp's level but i doubt it.

You sound angry : (. ANd like 99% of the people who you would have wanted to read your post left 100 pages ago
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
November 10 2013 02:54 GMT
#11077
On November 10 2013 11:52 stratmatt wrote:
Blizz should jus rig the tournament so the fan fav alwways wins and in the process destroy all competitive legitamacy and credibility their flagship esport title has...

You sourpuss jd fans are really trying to ruin an awesome tournament for everyone else because yr fav player has proven to be nothing but the biggest choker and kong in sc2 history...maybe one day he'll be on mvp's level but i doubt it.


This post is so 30 minutes ago.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
November 10 2013 02:55 GMT
#11078
On November 10 2013 11:53 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 11:52 stratmatt wrote:
Blizz should jus rig the tournament so the fan fav alwways wins and in the process destroy all competitive legitamacy and credibility their flagship esport title has...

You sourpuss jd fans are really trying to ruin an awesome tournament for everyone else because yr fav player has proven to be nothing but the biggest choker and kong in sc2 history...maybe one day he'll be on mvp's level but i doubt it.

You sound angry : (. ANd like 99% of the people who you would have wanted to read your post left 100 pages ago

Im still here
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
November 10 2013 02:55 GMT
#11079
On November 10 2013 11:52 stratmatt wrote:
Blizz should jus rig the tournament so the fan fav alwways wins and in the process destroy all competitive legitamacy and credibility their flagship esport title has...

You sourpuss jd fans are really trying to ruin an awesome tournament for everyone else because yr fav player has proven to be nothing but the biggest choker and kong in sc2 history...maybe one day he'll be on mvp's level but i doubt it.


Yes yes yes, but WHO is the Viking?!
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
November 10 2013 02:56 GMT
#11080
On November 10 2013 11:48 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 11:44 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:40 bourne117 wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:37 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:33 liberate71 wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:27 chatuka wrote:
On November 10 2013 11:26 Uncultured wrote:
I will never forget S.O.S's leaping fist-pump after stealing the victory and leaving his booth. One of the best celebratory moments I've seen.

i would have been more humble after mentally destroying JD that way by psyching him out. It wasnt a classy way or a hard drawn out way of winning like 5 set tennis matches or overtime games.


hahahha what?

He won $100,000 and the biggest SC2 tournament ever, and he isnt allowed to cheer because he mind-gamed a fan favourite?

DiLiGu just said almost the exact opposite, hes faceless and has no personality.

You and him should discuss this at his next barcraft.

If you jump up and cheer after someone gets injured in a match and beat the team or player in a game. you should not jump up and down. There are appropriate moments to cheer like a maniac, IF SoS beat JD in a 7 game intense fight, I would have understood it. This series felt like a let-down since game one. I would not really cheer like a maniac after wiinning in 5 games to cheezing and psycing out the opponent. that's just how i feel

What the fuck is your problem dude. He just won 100k dollars and the biggest tournament of the year. It wasn't like cheering for someone being injured at all. It was like cheering for winning the superbowl. It doesn't matter how you did it. You won and deserve to celebrate.

if you win after scoring on a hail mary, you are going to react differently after winning 70-0. It a compeltely different feeling and emotional reaction. That is the point i am making. this series was one-sided and very disappointing from game one. it was like a football game like 50-7 or something like that. I would not cheer crazily after winning that easily.

Have you ever win something ? Serious question

nothing as big as this. but i can put my self in their shoes and see how to handle yourself in a very polite manner. These are the unwritten rules i guess in sports we don't talk about. But i can see why some of you would be like , why are you criticizing a guy who won a big tournament winning 100K. you guys are probably right in questioning my cynicism i guess. I just didn't like the way he handled it.

when the Korean team SKT beat Royal in LoL 3-0, that was a subdued and pretty appropriate. they did not jump up and down, it was a pretty easy victory throughout. had they been going bonkers, i would have though of SKT differently. Yes they won 1 Mil, that was a big deal of course. And that makes the reactions more understandable after winning a big tournament.
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