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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 27 2013 00:48 GMT
#4721
On October 27 2013 09:48 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 09:47 Bagi wrote:
Does this mean a 100% Korean Blizzcon?

I'm not sure that's so good for the scene...

I don't think 1 foreigner vs. no foreigners will really kill the scene or anything.

yeah how many people still remember there was a foreigner in this tournament?
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
October 27 2013 00:49 GMT
#4722
On October 27 2013 09:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 09:47 Fjodorov wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:44 Yonnua wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:43 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:37 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:33 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:31 ArTiFaKs wrote:
who cares if Dear is considered the better player, i just would like to see someone other than Koreans at Blizzcon. It's just much more exciting and the storylines and "underdog" feel of it is great.


I care. I mean if I wanted to watch story lines with a vague connection to competitive spirit, I'd watch pro-wrestling.

So your calling Naniwa bad? Yes Dear won the GSL, but Naniwa has aswell had some success in the league, while also having multiple international top finishes. Also, I believe he alerady beat Dear offline.

Naniwa having success in the GSL last year in WoL does not mean he is at the level now. Especially when Kespa hadn't switched yet also. If Naniwa was even close to the level of Dear he would have had no issues in WCS EU and at the very least made it to WCS season 3 finals and not be at home hoping these players lose so he can make it to blizzcon. He plays in the easiest region if he can't make it that's on him


Why do you keep ignoring the fact that Naniwa smashed Dear at MLG Spring?

Jet lag /s


because naniwa lives in the US? :o

No, because Naniwa was at much larger amount of MLGs. Unlike Dear.


Did Dear say he lost because of jet lag or are we playing guessing games?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 27 2013 00:49 GMT
#4723
This crowd cheers, but man, i would be sleeping in their place already.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
October 27 2013 00:49 GMT
#4724
On October 27 2013 09:46 ArTiFaKs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 09:40 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:38 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:37 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:33 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:31 ArTiFaKs wrote:
who cares if Dear is considered the better player, i just would like to see someone other than Koreans at Blizzcon. It's just much more exciting and the storylines and "underdog" feel of it is great.


I care. I mean if I wanted to watch story lines with a vague connection to competitive spirit, I'd watch pro-wrestling.

So your calling Naniwa bad? Yes Dear won the GSL, but Naniwa has aswell had some success in the league, while also having multiple international top finishes. Also, I believe he alerady beat Dear offline.


Did I call him bad?

But it would be apparently be worse to have him at Blizzcon? Not saying you said it, but I somehow interpreted it that way


you're not watching storylines ? It just adds to the hype of the matches. Not to mention having at least one person competing who doesn't need a translator to speak to the interviewers and audience would be nice. You're welcome to your own opinion but you might want to realize that there's people out there that actually want NaNiwa to go to blizzcon. I like Dear I hope he makes it, but I'd like to see a foreigner in the top16 as well.

Polt and MC both don't need a translator. And who cares if they do. If they are the best they should be there
QO Feasting
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
October 27 2013 00:49 GMT
#4725
On October 27 2013 09:48 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 09:47 Bagi wrote:
Does this mean a 100% Korean Blizzcon?

I'm not sure that's so good for the scene...

I don't think 1 foreigner vs. no foreigners will really kill the scene or anything.

the competitive level of play in NA and europe is the issue, who ends up at blizzcon is totally irrelevant imo

in fact you could argue that one foreigner making it and just being washed out in the first round would look even worse on the scene
redpeople
Profile Joined July 2013
70 Posts
October 27 2013 00:49 GMT
#4726
as expected, 4 out of 5 players from wcs korea advanced to round of 8
The God of the stomach is at war with the God of kidneys
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 27 2013 00:49 GMT
#4727
No, we're not ready. Body isn't ready yet.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 27 2013 00:49 GMT
#4728
On October 27 2013 09:48 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 09:48 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:47 Bagi wrote:
Does this mean a 100% Korean Blizzcon?

I'm not sure that's so good for the scene...

I don't think 1 foreigner vs. no foreigners will really kill the scene or anything.

But what if he goes and beats INnoVation again?!

The sky will falll or some shit idk. HerO is protoss Marineking.
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 27 2013 00:49 GMT
#4729
On October 27 2013 09:49 Fjodorov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 09:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:47 Fjodorov wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:44 Yonnua wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:43 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:37 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:33 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:31 ArTiFaKs wrote:
who cares if Dear is considered the better player, i just would like to see someone other than Koreans at Blizzcon. It's just much more exciting and the storylines and "underdog" feel of it is great.


I care. I mean if I wanted to watch story lines with a vague connection to competitive spirit, I'd watch pro-wrestling.

So your calling Naniwa bad? Yes Dear won the GSL, but Naniwa has aswell had some success in the league, while also having multiple international top finishes. Also, I believe he alerady beat Dear offline.

Naniwa having success in the GSL last year in WoL does not mean he is at the level now. Especially when Kespa hadn't switched yet also. If Naniwa was even close to the level of Dear he would have had no issues in WCS EU and at the very least made it to WCS season 3 finals and not be at home hoping these players lose so he can make it to blizzcon. He plays in the easiest region if he can't make it that's on him


Why do you keep ignoring the fact that Naniwa smashed Dear at MLG Spring?

Jet lag /s


because naniwa lives in the US? :o

No, because Naniwa was at much larger amount of MLGs. Unlike Dear.


Did Dear say he lost because of jet lag or are we playing guessing games?

Dear never ever talked about this, did he?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
October 27 2013 00:49 GMT
#4730
On October 27 2013 09:43 bourne117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 09:37 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:33 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:31 ArTiFaKs wrote:
who cares if Dear is considered the better player, i just would like to see someone other than Koreans at Blizzcon. It's just much more exciting and the storylines and "underdog" feel of it is great.


I care. I mean if I wanted to watch story lines with a vague connection to competitive spirit, I'd watch pro-wrestling.

So your calling Naniwa bad? Yes Dear won the GSL, but Naniwa has aswell had some success in the league, while also having multiple international top finishes. Also, I believe he alerady beat Dear offline.

Naniwa having success in the GSL last year in WoL does not mean he is at the level now. Especially when Kespa hadn't switched yet also. If Naniwa was even close to the level of Dear he would have had no issues in WCS EU and at the very least made it to WCS season 3 finals and not be at home hoping these players lose so he can make it to blizzcon. He plays in the easiest region if he can't make it that's on him

Slightly inconsistent, but his top lvl is definately not far behind Dears.. maybe we should w8 and see, but right now naniwa has come out ahead
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 27 2013 00:50 GMT
#4731
On October 27 2013 09:48 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 09:48 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:47 Bagi wrote:
Does this mean a 100% Korean Blizzcon?

I'm not sure that's so good for the scene...

I don't think 1 foreigner vs. no foreigners will really kill the scene or anything.

yeah how many people still remember there was a foreigner in this tournament?


Everyone do the VortiXman.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 27 2013 00:50 GMT
#4732
On October 27 2013 09:49 Fjodorov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 09:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:47 Fjodorov wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:44 Yonnua wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:43 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:37 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:33 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:31 ArTiFaKs wrote:
who cares if Dear is considered the better player, i just would like to see someone other than Koreans at Blizzcon. It's just much more exciting and the storylines and "underdog" feel of it is great.


I care. I mean if I wanted to watch story lines with a vague connection to competitive spirit, I'd watch pro-wrestling.

So your calling Naniwa bad? Yes Dear won the GSL, but Naniwa has aswell had some success in the league, while also having multiple international top finishes. Also, I believe he alerady beat Dear offline.

Naniwa having success in the GSL last year in WoL does not mean he is at the level now. Especially when Kespa hadn't switched yet also. If Naniwa was even close to the level of Dear he would have had no issues in WCS EU and at the very least made it to WCS season 3 finals and not be at home hoping these players lose so he can make it to blizzcon. He plays in the easiest region if he can't make it that's on him


Why do you keep ignoring the fact that Naniwa smashed Dear at MLG Spring?

Jet lag /s


because naniwa lives in the US? :o

No, because Naniwa was at much larger amount of MLGs. Unlike Dear.


Did Dear say he lost because of jet lag or are we playing guessing games?

I bet he was slumping and had food poisoning too
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 27 2013 00:50 GMT
#4733
On October 27 2013 09:49 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 09:48 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:47 Bagi wrote:
Does this mean a 100% Korean Blizzcon?

I'm not sure that's so good for the scene...

I don't think 1 foreigner vs. no foreigners will really kill the scene or anything.

the competitive level of play in NA and europe is the issue, who ends up at blizzcon is totally irrelevant imo

in fact you could argue that one foreigner making it and just being washed out in the first round would look even worse on the scene


Kind of like this season finals

except Naniwa is much better than Vortix and has a chance to win a round at Blizzcon, well maybe, it depends on who he faces. if he comes in with 15th seed he might hit jaedong in round 1.
djraphi23
Profile Joined August 2013
France2262 Posts
October 27 2013 00:50 GMT
#4734
can someone explain the polt casting ? i missed something ?
Polt | Bomber | MMA | Taeja | Maru | TY | Byun | Innovation
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 27 2013 00:50 GMT
#4735
On October 27 2013 09:49 Muffloe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 09:43 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:37 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:33 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:31 ArTiFaKs wrote:
who cares if Dear is considered the better player, i just would like to see someone other than Koreans at Blizzcon. It's just much more exciting and the storylines and "underdog" feel of it is great.


I care. I mean if I wanted to watch story lines with a vague connection to competitive spirit, I'd watch pro-wrestling.

So your calling Naniwa bad? Yes Dear won the GSL, but Naniwa has aswell had some success in the league, while also having multiple international top finishes. Also, I believe he alerady beat Dear offline.

Naniwa having success in the GSL last year in WoL does not mean he is at the level now. Especially when Kespa hadn't switched yet also. If Naniwa was even close to the level of Dear he would have had no issues in WCS EU and at the very least made it to WCS season 3 finals and not be at home hoping these players lose so he can make it to blizzcon. He plays in the easiest region if he can't make it that's on him

Slightly inconsistent, but his top lvl is definately not far behind Dears.. maybe we should w8 and see, but right now naniwa has come out ahead

Just no. Dear's top level is winning WCS KR, Naniwa never did that even when the level there was lower.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 27 2013 00:50 GMT
#4736
What is Sun?
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
October 27 2013 00:50 GMT
#4737
On October 27 2013 09:49 redpeople wrote:
as expected, 4 out of 5 players from wcs korea advanced to round of 8

what is the reason for you not to expect all 5 to advance?
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
October 27 2013 00:50 GMT
#4738
On October 27 2013 09:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 09:49 Fjodorov wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:47 Fjodorov wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:44 Yonnua wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:43 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:37 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:33 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:31 ArTiFaKs wrote:
who cares if Dear is considered the better player, i just would like to see someone other than Koreans at Blizzcon. It's just much more exciting and the storylines and "underdog" feel of it is great.


I care. I mean if I wanted to watch story lines with a vague connection to competitive spirit, I'd watch pro-wrestling.

So your calling Naniwa bad? Yes Dear won the GSL, but Naniwa has aswell had some success in the league, while also having multiple international top finishes. Also, I believe he alerady beat Dear offline.

Naniwa having success in the GSL last year in WoL does not mean he is at the level now. Especially when Kespa hadn't switched yet also. If Naniwa was even close to the level of Dear he would have had no issues in WCS EU and at the very least made it to WCS season 3 finals and not be at home hoping these players lose so he can make it to blizzcon. He plays in the easiest region if he can't make it that's on him


Why do you keep ignoring the fact that Naniwa smashed Dear at MLG Spring?

Jet lag /s


because naniwa lives in the US? :o

No, because Naniwa was at much larger amount of MLGs. Unlike Dear.


Did Dear say he lost because of jet lag or are we playing guessing games?

Dear never ever talked about this, did he?


Jet lag is often know to cause you to lose to your opponent scouting what you're doing and countering it.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
October 27 2013 00:50 GMT
#4739
On October 27 2013 09:48 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 09:47 Bagi wrote:
Does this mean a 100% Korean Blizzcon?

I'm not sure that's so good for the scene...

I don't think 1 foreigner vs. no foreigners will really kill the scene or anything.

I'd say the psychological and viewership impact is a big one but hey, what do I know.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 27 2013 00:50 GMT
#4740
Group D: Final Match

(P)duckdeok vs (Z)ByuL
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Map: Akilon Wastes


duckdeok spawns in the top left
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