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herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2053 Posts
October 11 2013 20:26 GMT
#1741
Which stream shows naniwa vs hack or is it gonna be on the mainstream?
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
October 11 2013 20:27 GMT
#1742
On October 12 2013 05:20 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:15 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:11 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:06 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:05 herMan wrote:
No one seems to remember flash's absolute tear at proleague. This community sure has a short memory.

He actually has a lower WR than Innovation at proleague. He was played by Kt almost every game though.

Yes he had a lower win rate than INNOVATION at proleague (by less than .5%) and was only played two more times than Innovation, so that clearly means his record in proleague wasn't that good.


PL was overrated, It was missing the other half of the really good Korean players.


Why does that matter? He still did extremely well against lots of good players. That's like saying "A GSL win is overrated. He didn't even play half the people in the tournament!"


Because the idea of "PL is the highest level of competition in Korea" has stuck around despite the fact that its format and preparation can only be applied to itself. Sure being good at PL is good, but in that case Ryung is actually a god because he kicked the shit out of the GSTL but no one is applying that kind of logic to him.


I barely see anyone saying that anymore. The idea that Proleague has little meaning because of its Bo1 format is much more common. The point is that Flash has shown high potential in Starcraft 2.



Yawn... you people with KT rolster sig never fail to disappoint me. Flash fanboys keep bringing up his proleauge results because its the only league he did well in rofl Q.Q
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 11 2013 20:27 GMT
#1743
On October 12 2013 05:26 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:25 stuchiu wrote:
Despite how good Curious played against Innovation, I think he is still beatable for Flash. Assuming he doesn't do that weird Hellbat build.

Inb4 Flash goes mass raven turtle.

"I studied a lot of Avilo who was recently featured on a foreign website."
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
October 11 2013 20:27 GMT
#1744
On October 12 2013 05:26 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:25 stuchiu wrote:
Despite how good Curious played against Innovation, I think he is still beatable for Flash. Assuming he doesn't do that weird Hellbat build.

Inb4 Flash goes mass raven turtle.


Flash will mech his way to victory.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 11 2013 20:27 GMT
#1745
On October 12 2013 05:26 herMan wrote:
Which stream shows naniwa vs hack or is it gonna be on the mainstream?

It is tomorrow on main stream.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 11 2013 20:27 GMT
#1746
On October 12 2013 05:26 herMan wrote:
Which stream shows naniwa vs hack or is it gonna be on the mainstream?

I think it's tomorrow.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#1747
On October 12 2013 05:25 SixStrings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:22 Darkhoarse wrote:

Ohoho The shoe is on the other table, which has turned.


That's it, I'm out.

That's right.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Nerevar
Profile Joined January 2013
547 Posts
October 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#1748
Flash will go Turret-Turret-Turret-mech obviously.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#1749
Zlaaaataaaaaaaaaan!!!!!
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
October 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#1750
On October 12 2013 05:27 mongmong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:20 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:15 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:11 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:06 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:05 herMan wrote:
No one seems to remember flash's absolute tear at proleague. This community sure has a short memory.

He actually has a lower WR than Innovation at proleague. He was played by Kt almost every game though.

Yes he had a lower win rate than INNOVATION at proleague (by less than .5%) and was only played two more times than Innovation, so that clearly means his record in proleague wasn't that good.


PL was overrated, It was missing the other half of the really good Korean players.


Why does that matter? He still did extremely well against lots of good players. That's like saying "A GSL win is overrated. He didn't even play half the people in the tournament!"


Because the idea of "PL is the highest level of competition in Korea" has stuck around despite the fact that its format and preparation can only be applied to itself. Sure being good at PL is good, but in that case Ryung is actually a god because he kicked the shit out of the GSTL but no one is applying that kind of logic to him.


I barely see anyone saying that anymore. The idea that Proleague has little meaning because of its Bo1 format is much more common. The point is that Flash has shown high potential in Starcraft 2.




Yawn... you people with KT rolster sig never fail to disappoint me. Flash fanboys keep bringing up his proleauge results because its the only league he did well in rofl Q.Q


Hey, he won that Kespa tournament at the very beginning vs Bisu atleast! (Was it even Bisu? Cant even rememmber <.<)
DinoToss
Profile Joined August 2013
Poland507 Posts
October 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#1751
On October 12 2013 05:27 mongmong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:20 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:15 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:11 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:06 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:05 herMan wrote:
No one seems to remember flash's absolute tear at proleague. This community sure has a short memory.

He actually has a lower WR than Innovation at proleague. He was played by Kt almost every game though.

Yes he had a lower win rate than INNOVATION at proleague (by less than .5%) and was only played two more times than Innovation, so that clearly means his record in proleague wasn't that good.


PL was overrated, It was missing the other half of the really good Korean players.


Why does that matter? He still did extremely well against lots of good players. That's like saying "A GSL win is overrated. He didn't even play half the people in the tournament!"


Because the idea of "PL is the highest level of competition in Korea" has stuck around despite the fact that its format and preparation can only be applied to itself. Sure being good at PL is good, but in that case Ryung is actually a god because he kicked the shit out of the GSTL but no one is applying that kind of logic to him.


I barely see anyone saying that anymore. The idea that Proleague has little meaning because of its Bo1 format is much more common. The point is that Flash has shown high potential in Starcraft 2.



Yawn... you people with KT rolster sig never fail to disappoint me. Flash fanboys keep bringing up his proleauge results because its the only league he did well in rofl Q.Q

Fans look at the bright side. Fanboys are blind from light, though. You gotta distinguish!
My wrist really started to flare up. My colossi number started to pile up and with the last of my concentration I prepared for a win.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#1752
Maybe even mass mine into mass raven.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#1753
On October 12 2013 05:26 herMan wrote:
Which stream shows naniwa vs hack or is it gonna be on the mainstream?


Its tomorrow.
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 11 2013 20:29 GMT
#1754
On October 12 2013 05:28 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:27 mongmong wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:20 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:15 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:11 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:06 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:05 herMan wrote:
No one seems to remember flash's absolute tear at proleague. This community sure has a short memory.

He actually has a lower WR than Innovation at proleague. He was played by Kt almost every game though.

Yes he had a lower win rate than INNOVATION at proleague (by less than .5%) and was only played two more times than Innovation, so that clearly means his record in proleague wasn't that good.


PL was overrated, It was missing the other half of the really good Korean players.


Why does that matter? He still did extremely well against lots of good players. That's like saying "A GSL win is overrated. He didn't even play half the people in the tournament!"


Because the idea of "PL is the highest level of competition in Korea" has stuck around despite the fact that its format and preparation can only be applied to itself. Sure being good at PL is good, but in that case Ryung is actually a god because he kicked the shit out of the GSTL but no one is applying that kind of logic to him.


I barely see anyone saying that anymore. The idea that Proleague has little meaning because of its Bo1 format is much more common. The point is that Flash has shown high potential in Starcraft 2.




Yawn... you people with KT rolster sig never fail to disappoint me. Flash fanboys keep bringing up his proleauge results because its the only league he did well in rofl Q.Q


Hey, he won that Kespa tournament at the very beginning vs Bisu atleast! (Was it even Bisu? Cant even rememmber <.<)

I believe someone->Soulkey->Bisu he has beaten.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24584 Posts
October 11 2013 20:29 GMT
#1755
On October 12 2013 05:28 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Zlaaaataaaaaaaaaan!!!!!


That's the guy who is the Naniwa of football, right?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 11 2013 20:29 GMT
#1756
On October 12 2013 05:28 lolfail9001 wrote:
Maybe even mass mine into mass raven.


Whatever you say qxc.
Moderator
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 11 2013 20:29 GMT
#1757
On October 12 2013 05:29 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:28 lolfail9001 wrote:
Maybe even mass mine into mass raven.


Whatever you say qxc.

Hey, it's legit.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 20:31:03
October 11 2013 20:29 GMT
#1758
On October 12 2013 05:27 mongmong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:20 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:15 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:11 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:06 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:05 herMan wrote:
No one seems to remember flash's absolute tear at proleague. This community sure has a short memory.

He actually has a lower WR than Innovation at proleague. He was played by Kt almost every game though.

Yes he had a lower win rate than INNOVATION at proleague (by less than .5%) and was only played two more times than Innovation, so that clearly means his record in proleague wasn't that good.


PL was overrated, It was missing the other half of the really good Korean players.


Why does that matter? He still did extremely well against lots of good players. That's like saying "A GSL win is overrated. He didn't even play half the people in the tournament!"


Because the idea of "PL is the highest level of competition in Korea" has stuck around despite the fact that its format and preparation can only be applied to itself. Sure being good at PL is good, but in that case Ryung is actually a god because he kicked the shit out of the GSTL but no one is applying that kind of logic to him.


I barely see anyone saying that anymore. The idea that Proleague has little meaning because of its Bo1 format is much more common. The point is that Flash has shown high potential in Starcraft 2.



Yawn... you people with KT rolster sig never fail to disappoint me. Flash fanboys keep bringing up his proleauge results because its the only league he did well in rofl Q.Q


I didn't bring it up...? And the guy who did bring it up doesn't have a KT sign?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 11 2013 20:30 GMT
#1759
On October 12 2013 05:29 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:28 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Zlaaaataaaaaaaaaan!!!!!


That's the guy who is the Naniwa of football, right?


Not sure. Do NaNi talk about himself in third person?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
NKB
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom608 Posts
October 11 2013 20:30 GMT
#1760
Flash on main stage again already, they really want to showcase his matches
Some times you just gotta wish...
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