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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 20:30 GMT
#1761
On October 12 2013 05:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:28 BlackCompany wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:27 mongmong wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:20 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:15 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:11 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:06 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:05 herMan wrote:
No one seems to remember flash's absolute tear at proleague. This community sure has a short memory.

He actually has a lower WR than Innovation at proleague. He was played by Kt almost every game though.

Yes he had a lower win rate than INNOVATION at proleague (by less than .5%) and was only played two more times than Innovation, so that clearly means his record in proleague wasn't that good.


PL was overrated, It was missing the other half of the really good Korean players.


Why does that matter? He still did extremely well against lots of good players. That's like saying "A GSL win is overrated. He didn't even play half the people in the tournament!"


Because the idea of "PL is the highest level of competition in Korea" has stuck around despite the fact that its format and preparation can only be applied to itself. Sure being good at PL is good, but in that case Ryung is actually a god because he kicked the shit out of the GSTL but no one is applying that kind of logic to him.


I barely see anyone saying that anymore. The idea that Proleague has little meaning because of its Bo1 format is much more common. The point is that Flash has shown high potential in Starcraft 2.




Yawn... you people with KT rolster sig never fail to disappoint me. Flash fanboys keep bringing up his proleauge results because its the only league he did well in rofl Q.Q


Hey, he won that Kespa tournament at the very beginning vs Bisu atleast! (Was it even Bisu? Cant even rememmber <.<)

I believe someone->Soulkey->Bisu he has beaten.

It was the MLG Kespa invitational. He beat Fantasy, Soulkey, then Bisu in the finals. But they were all terrible at SC2 at the time
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Nerevar
Profile Joined January 2013
547 Posts
October 11 2013 20:30 GMT
#1762
On October 12 2013 05:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:28 BlackCompany wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:27 mongmong wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:20 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:15 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:11 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:06 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:05 herMan wrote:
No one seems to remember flash's absolute tear at proleague. This community sure has a short memory.

He actually has a lower WR than Innovation at proleague. He was played by Kt almost every game though.

Yes he had a lower win rate than INNOVATION at proleague (by less than .5%) and was only played two more times than Innovation, so that clearly means his record in proleague wasn't that good.


PL was overrated, It was missing the other half of the really good Korean players.


Why does that matter? He still did extremely well against lots of good players. That's like saying "A GSL win is overrated. He didn't even play half the people in the tournament!"


Because the idea of "PL is the highest level of competition in Korea" has stuck around despite the fact that its format and preparation can only be applied to itself. Sure being good at PL is good, but in that case Ryung is actually a god because he kicked the shit out of the GSTL but no one is applying that kind of logic to him.


I barely see anyone saying that anymore. The idea that Proleague has little meaning because of its Bo1 format is much more common. The point is that Flash has shown high potential in Starcraft 2.




Yawn... you people with KT rolster sig never fail to disappoint me. Flash fanboys keep bringing up his proleauge results because its the only league he did well in rofl Q.Q


Hey, he won that Kespa tournament at the very beginning vs Bisu atleast! (Was it even Bisu? Cant even rememmber <.<)

I believe someone->Soulkey->Bisu he has beaten.

And Bisu had beaten Jaedong too. And now look where they are hehe. Not to mention Leta and Calm were playing in the tournament as well.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
October 11 2013 20:31 GMT
#1763
On October 12 2013 05:30 Nerevar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:28 BlackCompany wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:27 mongmong wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:20 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:15 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:11 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:06 lolfail9001 wrote:
[quote]
He actually has a lower WR than Innovation at proleague. He was played by Kt almost every game though.

Yes he had a lower win rate than INNOVATION at proleague (by less than .5%) and was only played two more times than Innovation, so that clearly means his record in proleague wasn't that good.


PL was overrated, It was missing the other half of the really good Korean players.


Why does that matter? He still did extremely well against lots of good players. That's like saying "A GSL win is overrated. He didn't even play half the people in the tournament!"


Because the idea of "PL is the highest level of competition in Korea" has stuck around despite the fact that its format and preparation can only be applied to itself. Sure being good at PL is good, but in that case Ryung is actually a god because he kicked the shit out of the GSTL but no one is applying that kind of logic to him.


I barely see anyone saying that anymore. The idea that Proleague has little meaning because of its Bo1 format is much more common. The point is that Flash has shown high potential in Starcraft 2.




Yawn... you people with KT rolster sig never fail to disappoint me. Flash fanboys keep bringing up his proleauge results because its the only league he did well in rofl Q.Q


Hey, he won that Kespa tournament at the very beginning vs Bisu atleast! (Was it even Bisu? Cant even rememmber <.<)

I believe someone->Soulkey->Bisu he has beaten.

And Bisu had beaten Jaedong too. And now look where they are hehe. Not to mention Leta and Calm were playing in the tournament as well.


Don't forget, isn't that the tournament Flash won the first game without his keyboard working correctly?
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 11 2013 20:31 GMT
#1764
Frost is here? Yay!
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#1765
Flash proxy maraudered like three of his six wins in that tournament.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
October 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#1766
this lag, holy moly, whats going on?
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
October 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#1767
On October 12 2013 05:30 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:29 Heartland wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:28 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Zlaaaataaaaaaaaaan!!!!!


That's the guy who is the Naniwa of football, right?


Not sure. Do NaNi talk about himself in third person?


I think I saw an interview with HotBid and Nani where Nani sniffed HotBid and said that he smelled like shit.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#1768
On October 12 2013 05:31 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:30 Nerevar wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:28 BlackCompany wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:27 mongmong wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:20 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:15 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:11 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
[quote]
Yes he had a lower win rate than INNOVATION at proleague (by less than .5%) and was only played two more times than Innovation, so that clearly means his record in proleague wasn't that good.


PL was overrated, It was missing the other half of the really good Korean players.


Why does that matter? He still did extremely well against lots of good players. That's like saying "A GSL win is overrated. He didn't even play half the people in the tournament!"


Because the idea of "PL is the highest level of competition in Korea" has stuck around despite the fact that its format and preparation can only be applied to itself. Sure being good at PL is good, but in that case Ryung is actually a god because he kicked the shit out of the GSTL but no one is applying that kind of logic to him.


I barely see anyone saying that anymore. The idea that Proleague has little meaning because of its Bo1 format is much more common. The point is that Flash has shown high potential in Starcraft 2.




Yawn... you people with KT rolster sig never fail to disappoint me. Flash fanboys keep bringing up his proleauge results because its the only league he did well in rofl Q.Q


Hey, he won that Kespa tournament at the very beginning vs Bisu atleast! (Was it even Bisu? Cant even rememmber <.<)

I believe someone->Soulkey->Bisu he has beaten.

And Bisu had beaten Jaedong too. And now look where they are hehe. Not to mention Leta and Calm were playing in the tournament as well.


Don't forget, isn't that the tournament Flash won the first game without his keyboard working correctly?

Pfft, he could win the games without mice in HotS. Seriously.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Nerevar
Profile Joined January 2013
547 Posts
October 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#1769
On October 12 2013 05:31 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:30 Nerevar wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:28 BlackCompany wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:27 mongmong wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:20 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:15 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:11 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
[quote]
Yes he had a lower win rate than INNOVATION at proleague (by less than .5%) and was only played two more times than Innovation, so that clearly means his record in proleague wasn't that good.


PL was overrated, It was missing the other half of the really good Korean players.


Why does that matter? He still did extremely well against lots of good players. That's like saying "A GSL win is overrated. He didn't even play half the people in the tournament!"


Because the idea of "PL is the highest level of competition in Korea" has stuck around despite the fact that its format and preparation can only be applied to itself. Sure being good at PL is good, but in that case Ryung is actually a god because he kicked the shit out of the GSTL but no one is applying that kind of logic to him.


I barely see anyone saying that anymore. The idea that Proleague has little meaning because of its Bo1 format is much more common. The point is that Flash has shown high potential in Starcraft 2.




Yawn... you people with KT rolster sig never fail to disappoint me. Flash fanboys keep bringing up his proleauge results because its the only league he did well in rofl Q.Q


Hey, he won that Kespa tournament at the very beginning vs Bisu atleast! (Was it even Bisu? Cant even rememmber <.<)

I believe someone->Soulkey->Bisu he has beaten.

And Bisu had beaten Jaedong too. And now look where they are hehe. Not to mention Leta and Calm were playing in the tournament as well.


Don't forget, isn't that the tournament Flash won the first game without his keyboard working correctly?

Dunno about that, but you just reminded me of the time when Losira beat iNcontrol with a broken keyboard. Good times.
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
October 11 2013 20:33 GMT
#1770
On October 12 2013 05:32 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:30 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:29 Heartland wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:28 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Zlaaaataaaaaaaaaan!!!!!


That's the guy who is the Naniwa of football, right?


Not sure. Do NaNi talk about himself in third person?


I think I saw an interview with HotBid and Nani where Nani sniffed HotBid and said that he smelled like shit.

srsly? ^^
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 20:33 GMT
#1771
On October 12 2013 05:32 Nerevar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:31 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:30 Nerevar wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:28 BlackCompany wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:27 mongmong wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:20 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:15 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:11 stuchiu wrote:
[quote]

PL was overrated, It was missing the other half of the really good Korean players.


Why does that matter? He still did extremely well against lots of good players. That's like saying "A GSL win is overrated. He didn't even play half the people in the tournament!"


Because the idea of "PL is the highest level of competition in Korea" has stuck around despite the fact that its format and preparation can only be applied to itself. Sure being good at PL is good, but in that case Ryung is actually a god because he kicked the shit out of the GSTL but no one is applying that kind of logic to him.


I barely see anyone saying that anymore. The idea that Proleague has little meaning because of its Bo1 format is much more common. The point is that Flash has shown high potential in Starcraft 2.




Yawn... you people with KT rolster sig never fail to disappoint me. Flash fanboys keep bringing up his proleauge results because its the only league he did well in rofl Q.Q


Hey, he won that Kespa tournament at the very beginning vs Bisu atleast! (Was it even Bisu? Cant even rememmber <.<)

I believe someone->Soulkey->Bisu he has beaten.

And Bisu had beaten Jaedong too. And now look where they are hehe. Not to mention Leta and Calm were playing in the tournament as well.


Don't forget, isn't that the tournament Flash won the first game without his keyboard working correctly?

Dunno about that, but you just reminded me of the time when Losira beat iNcontrol with a broken keyboard. Good times.

When you see Losira's crazy hands, you have to feel bad for his keyboards.
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
October 11 2013 20:33 GMT
#1772
On October 12 2013 05:32 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:31 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:30 Nerevar wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:28 BlackCompany wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:27 mongmong wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:20 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:15 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:11 stuchiu wrote:
[quote]

PL was overrated, It was missing the other half of the really good Korean players.


Why does that matter? He still did extremely well against lots of good players. That's like saying "A GSL win is overrated. He didn't even play half the people in the tournament!"


Because the idea of "PL is the highest level of competition in Korea" has stuck around despite the fact that its format and preparation can only be applied to itself. Sure being good at PL is good, but in that case Ryung is actually a god because he kicked the shit out of the GSTL but no one is applying that kind of logic to him.


I barely see anyone saying that anymore. The idea that Proleague has little meaning because of its Bo1 format is much more common. The point is that Flash has shown high potential in Starcraft 2.




Yawn... you people with KT rolster sig never fail to disappoint me. Flash fanboys keep bringing up his proleauge results because its the only league he did well in rofl Q.Q


Hey, he won that Kespa tournament at the very beginning vs Bisu atleast! (Was it even Bisu? Cant even rememmber <.<)

I believe someone->Soulkey->Bisu he has beaten.

And Bisu had beaten Jaedong too. And now look where they are hehe. Not to mention Leta and Calm were playing in the tournament as well.


Don't forget, isn't that the tournament Flash won the first game without his keyboard working correctly?

Pfft, he could win the games without mice in HotS. Seriously.


Considering he could probably beat a pretty sizable chunk of people in this LR thread using one of those eraser-head pointer things on a laptop keyboard... could be.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
calh
Profile Joined March 2013
537 Posts
October 11 2013 20:34 GMT
#1773
Apollo's intro makes Flash seem like a shounen manga hero, fighting stronger and stronger guys to reclaim his former power.
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
October 11 2013 20:35 GMT
#1774
Avert thine eyes, children.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
October 11 2013 20:35 GMT
#1775
CC FIRST

YES
FLASH
RIP MKP
Nerevar
Profile Joined January 2013
547 Posts
October 11 2013 20:35 GMT
#1776
On October 12 2013 05:33 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:32 Nerevar wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:31 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:30 Nerevar wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:28 BlackCompany wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:27 mongmong wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:20 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:15 GolemMadness wrote:
[quote]

Why does that matter? He still did extremely well against lots of good players. That's like saying "A GSL win is overrated. He didn't even play half the people in the tournament!"


Because the idea of "PL is the highest level of competition in Korea" has stuck around despite the fact that its format and preparation can only be applied to itself. Sure being good at PL is good, but in that case Ryung is actually a god because he kicked the shit out of the GSTL but no one is applying that kind of logic to him.


I barely see anyone saying that anymore. The idea that Proleague has little meaning because of its Bo1 format is much more common. The point is that Flash has shown high potential in Starcraft 2.




Yawn... you people with KT rolster sig never fail to disappoint me. Flash fanboys keep bringing up his proleauge results because its the only league he did well in rofl Q.Q


Hey, he won that Kespa tournament at the very beginning vs Bisu atleast! (Was it even Bisu? Cant even rememmber <.<)

I believe someone->Soulkey->Bisu he has beaten.

And Bisu had beaten Jaedong too. And now look where they are hehe. Not to mention Leta and Calm were playing in the tournament as well.


Don't forget, isn't that the tournament Flash won the first game without his keyboard working correctly?

Dunno about that, but you just reminded me of the time when Losira beat iNcontrol with a broken keyboard. Good times.

When you see Losira's crazy hands, you have to feel bad for his keyboards.

Bad for keyboards, great for girls
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
October 11 2013 20:35 GMT
#1777
On October 12 2013 05:33 75 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:32 Heartland wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:30 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:29 Heartland wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:28 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Zlaaaataaaaaaaaaan!!!!!


That's the guy who is the Naniwa of football, right?


Not sure. Do NaNi talk about himself in third person?


I think I saw an interview with HotBid and Nani where Nani sniffed HotBid and said that he smelled like shit.

srsly? ^^


No. This is a Zlatan reference.
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
October 11 2013 20:35 GMT
#1778
Lol how did Flash drop a game against State? Wow.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 11 2013 20:36 GMT
#1779
On October 12 2013 05:32 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:30 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:29 Heartland wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:28 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Zlaaaataaaaaaaaaan!!!!!


That's the guy who is the Naniwa of football, right?


Not sure. Do NaNi talk about himself in third person?


I think I saw an interview with HotBid and Nani where Nani sniffed HotBid and said that he smelled like shit.


Zlatan he is then. ..but does that make HotBid Ekwall? :o
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 20:36 GMT
#1780
On October 12 2013 05:35 Nerevar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 05:33 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:32 Nerevar wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:31 felisconcolori wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:30 Nerevar wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:29 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:28 BlackCompany wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:27 mongmong wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:20 GolemMadness wrote:
On October 12 2013 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
[quote]

Because the idea of "PL is the highest level of competition in Korea" has stuck around despite the fact that its format and preparation can only be applied to itself. Sure being good at PL is good, but in that case Ryung is actually a god because he kicked the shit out of the GSTL but no one is applying that kind of logic to him.


I barely see anyone saying that anymore. The idea that Proleague has little meaning because of its Bo1 format is much more common. The point is that Flash has shown high potential in Starcraft 2.




Yawn... you people with KT rolster sig never fail to disappoint me. Flash fanboys keep bringing up his proleauge results because its the only league he did well in rofl Q.Q


Hey, he won that Kespa tournament at the very beginning vs Bisu atleast! (Was it even Bisu? Cant even rememmber <.<)

I believe someone->Soulkey->Bisu he has beaten.

And Bisu had beaten Jaedong too. And now look where they are hehe. Not to mention Leta and Calm were playing in the tournament as well.


Don't forget, isn't that the tournament Flash won the first game without his keyboard working correctly?

Dunno about that, but you just reminded me of the time when Losira beat iNcontrol with a broken keyboard. Good times.

When you see Losira's crazy hands, you have to feel bad for his keyboards.

Bad for keyboards, great for girls

Losira does strike me as a ladykiller.
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