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On September 06 2013 21:27 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 21:25 Abominous wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 jimothyjim wrote:On September 06 2013 21:23 Abominous wrote:
Could someone explain shortly how did DRG beat Inno? I was away. A lot of Macro, defending pushes with Banelings and then being annoying with Muta ling. Also shutdown drops fairly well. So it's possible to beat MMMM in a straight up ZvT? Yes, it is possible to beat Innovation's TvZ, if you have around 500 APM. That is only thing Soulkey did not have in his games against Innovation. Also, maps.
Also fast overseers, their games were so close that with fast overseers, Soulkey would have won some of them.
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Okay herO is going to beat Bogus now and advance.
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Gumiho is at 9 Code S appearances in a row btw
and DRG first nestea winner to not bomb out after receiving the award
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On September 06 2013 21:28 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 21:27 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 Abominous wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 jimothyjim wrote:On September 06 2013 21:23 Abominous wrote:
Could someone explain shortly how did DRG beat Inno? I was away. A lot of Macro, defending pushes with Banelings and then being annoying with Muta ling. Also shutdown drops fairly well. So it's possible to beat MMMM in a straight up ZvT? Yes, it is possible to beat Innovation's TvZ, if you have around 500 APM. That is only thing Soulkey did not have in his games against Innovation. Guess your signature is incorrect then, unless Innovation is not a good terran 
indeed, in both DRG's wins it was the denial of the 4th that led to the wins
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Also, trivia: last time Innovation and DRG and another terran were in group this happened: DRG topped group, beating Innovation, another terran fell to DRG and guy, who lost to Innovation in first match, and Inno advancing by beating this guy twice (that guy was Stephano, yep).
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On September 06 2013 21:29 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 21:28 AxionSteel wrote:On September 06 2013 21:27 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 Abominous wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 jimothyjim wrote:On September 06 2013 21:23 Abominous wrote:
Could someone explain shortly how did DRG beat Inno? I was away. A lot of Macro, defending pushes with Banelings and then being annoying with Muta ling. Also shutdown drops fairly well. So it's possible to beat MMMM in a straight up ZvT? Yes, it is possible to beat Innovation's TvZ, if you have around 500 APM. That is only thing Soulkey did not have in his games against Innovation. Guess your signature is incorrect then, unless Innovation is not a good terran Did not really see the games, but from what i understood A. Innovation was not playing like complete beast he usually is in TvZ. B. DRG has one of best mechanics in the world, so when he does not derp, my signature is completely irrelevant.
Both players played really well, near perfect. Check the VoDs later, was great games!
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On September 06 2013 21:31 lolfail9001 wrote:
Also, trivia: last time Innovation and DRG and another terran were in group this happened: DRG topped group, beating Innovation, another terran fell to DRG and guy, who lost to Innovation in first match, and Inno advancing by beating this guy twice (that guy was Stephano, yep).
then DRG and innovation were in the same round of 16 group :O
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On September 06 2013 21:30 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 21:27 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 Abominous wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 jimothyjim wrote:On September 06 2013 21:23 Abominous wrote:
Could someone explain shortly how did DRG beat Inno? I was away. A lot of Macro, defending pushes with Banelings and then being annoying with Muta ling. Also shutdown drops fairly well. So it's possible to beat MMMM in a straight up ZvT? Yes, it is possible to beat Innovation's TvZ, if you have around 500 APM. That is only thing Soulkey did not have in his games against Innovation. Also, maps. Also fast overseers, their games were so close that with fast overseers, Soulkey would have won some of them.
Soulkey never looked as good as drg did in his games vs innovation. Even that game on newkirk wasn't as impressive.
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On September 06 2013 21:32 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 21:30 vthree wrote:On September 06 2013 21:27 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 Abominous wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 jimothyjim wrote:On September 06 2013 21:23 Abominous wrote:
Could someone explain shortly how did DRG beat Inno? I was away. A lot of Macro, defending pushes with Banelings and then being annoying with Muta ling. Also shutdown drops fairly well. So it's possible to beat MMMM in a straight up ZvT? Yes, it is possible to beat Innovation's TvZ, if you have around 500 APM. That is only thing Soulkey did not have in his games against Innovation. Also, maps. Also fast overseers, their games were so close that with fast overseers, Soulkey would have won some of them. Soulkey never looked as good as drg did in his games vs innovation. Even that game on newkirk wasn't as impressive.
Soulkey is kinda... slow, when compared to Innovation and DRG. His trickery is great though.
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On September 06 2013 21:31 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 21:29 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 06 2013 21:28 AxionSteel wrote:On September 06 2013 21:27 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 Abominous wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 jimothyjim wrote:On September 06 2013 21:23 Abominous wrote:
Could someone explain shortly how did DRG beat Inno? I was away. A lot of Macro, defending pushes with Banelings and then being annoying with Muta ling. Also shutdown drops fairly well. So it's possible to beat MMMM in a straight up ZvT? Yes, it is possible to beat Innovation's TvZ, if you have around 500 APM. That is only thing Soulkey did not have in his games against Innovation. Guess your signature is incorrect then, unless Innovation is not a good terran Did not really see the games, but from what i understood A. Innovation was not playing like complete beast he usually is in TvZ. B. DRG has one of best mechanics in the world, so when he does not derp, my signature is completely irrelevant. Both players played really well, near perfect. Check the VoDs later, was great games!
*as an innovation fan* I feel he could/should have avoided baneling damage a little more/better (however DRG did have a LOT of them at the right times).
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On September 06 2013 21:31 lolfail9001 wrote:
Also, trivia: last time Innovation and DRG and another terran were in group this happened: DRG topped group, beating Innovation, another terran fell to DRG and guy, who lost to Innovation in first match, and Inno advancing by beating this guy twice (that guy was Stephano, yep).
They would met again in the Ro16, where Bogus beat DRG, and DRG didn't make it out.
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On September 06 2013 21:30 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 21:27 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 Abominous wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 jimothyjim wrote:On September 06 2013 21:23 Abominous wrote:
Could someone explain shortly how did DRG beat Inno? I was away. A lot of Macro, defending pushes with Banelings and then being annoying with Muta ling. Also shutdown drops fairly well. So it's possible to beat MMMM in a straight up ZvT? Yes, it is possible to beat Innovation's TvZ, if you have around 500 APM. That is only thing Soulkey did not have in his games against Innovation. Also, maps. Also fast overseers, their games were so close that with fast overseers, Soulkey would have won some of them.
No.
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On September 06 2013 21:33 DusTerr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 21:31 DJHelium wrote:On September 06 2013 21:29 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 06 2013 21:28 AxionSteel wrote:On September 06 2013 21:27 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 Abominous wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 jimothyjim wrote:On September 06 2013 21:23 Abominous wrote:
Could someone explain shortly how did DRG beat Inno? I was away. A lot of Macro, defending pushes with Banelings and then being annoying with Muta ling. Also shutdown drops fairly well. So it's possible to beat MMMM in a straight up ZvT? Yes, it is possible to beat Innovation's TvZ, if you have around 500 APM. That is only thing Soulkey did not have in his games against Innovation. Guess your signature is incorrect then, unless Innovation is not a good terran Did not really see the games, but from what i understood A. Innovation was not playing like complete beast he usually is in TvZ. B. DRG has one of best mechanics in the world, so when he does not derp, my signature is completely irrelevant. Both players played really well, near perfect. Check the VoDs later, was great games! *as an innovation fan* I feel he could/should have avoided baneling damage a little more/better (however DRG did have a LOT of them at the right times).
Yeah, I think his micro was slightly below his standard level.
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On September 06 2013 21:34 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 21:33 DusTerr wrote:On September 06 2013 21:31 DJHelium wrote:On September 06 2013 21:29 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 06 2013 21:28 AxionSteel wrote:On September 06 2013 21:27 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 Abominous wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 jimothyjim wrote:On September 06 2013 21:23 Abominous wrote:
Could someone explain shortly how did DRG beat Inno? I was away. A lot of Macro, defending pushes with Banelings and then being annoying with Muta ling. Also shutdown drops fairly well. So it's possible to beat MMMM in a straight up ZvT? Yes, it is possible to beat Innovation's TvZ, if you have around 500 APM. That is only thing Soulkey did not have in his games against Innovation. Guess your signature is incorrect then, unless Innovation is not a good terran Did not really see the games, but from what i understood A. Innovation was not playing like complete beast he usually is in TvZ. B. DRG has one of best mechanics in the world, so when he does not derp, my signature is completely irrelevant. Both players played really well, near perfect. Check the VoDs later, was great games! *as an innovation fan* I feel he could/should have avoided baneling damage a little more/better (however DRG did have a LOT of them at the right times). Yeah, I think his micro was slightly below his standard level.
Do you think that had his micro been as good as it normally was he would have won?
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In Korean forums Z players are in awe and anger at the same time because they now think mines will not be nerfed. rofl.
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On September 06 2013 21:34 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 21:34 TheDwf wrote:On September 06 2013 21:33 DusTerr wrote:On September 06 2013 21:31 DJHelium wrote:On September 06 2013 21:29 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 06 2013 21:28 AxionSteel wrote:On September 06 2013 21:27 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 Abominous wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 jimothyjim wrote:On September 06 2013 21:23 Abominous wrote:
Could someone explain shortly how did DRG beat Inno? I was away. A lot of Macro, defending pushes with Banelings and then being annoying with Muta ling. Also shutdown drops fairly well. So it's possible to beat MMMM in a straight up ZvT? Yes, it is possible to beat Innovation's TvZ, if you have around 500 APM. That is only thing Soulkey did not have in his games against Innovation. Guess your signature is incorrect then, unless Innovation is not a good terran Did not really see the games, but from what i understood A. Innovation was not playing like complete beast he usually is in TvZ. B. DRG has one of best mechanics in the world, so when he does not derp, my signature is completely irrelevant. Both players played really well, near perfect. Check the VoDs later, was great games! *as an innovation fan* I feel he could/should have avoided baneling damage a little more/better (however DRG did have a LOT of them at the right times). Yeah, I think his micro was slightly below his standard level. Do you think that had his micro been as good as it normally was he would have won?
Can't tell, this kind of "what if..." is too complex.
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On September 06 2013 21:35 usethis2 wrote:
In Korean forums Z players are in awe and anger at the same time because they now think mines will not be nerfed. rofl.
Is there alot of happiness for DongRaeGu?
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On September 06 2013 21:32 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 21:30 vthree wrote:On September 06 2013 21:27 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 Abominous wrote:On September 06 2013 21:25 jimothyjim wrote:On September 06 2013 21:23 Abominous wrote:
Could someone explain shortly how did DRG beat Inno? I was away. A lot of Macro, defending pushes with Banelings and then being annoying with Muta ling. Also shutdown drops fairly well. So it's possible to beat MMMM in a straight up ZvT? Yes, it is possible to beat Innovation's TvZ, if you have around 500 APM. That is only thing Soulkey did not have in his games against Innovation. Also, maps. Also fast overseers, their games were so close that with fast overseers, Soulkey would have won some of them. Soulkey never looked as good as drg did in his games vs innovation. Even that game on newkirk wasn't as impressive.
It is hard to tell until we see Soulkey play a top Terran. 4M vs muta ling bling is very snowbally. Even if overseers allow zergs to chase down 1 more medivac/mine before pulling back due to mines each engagement, that is already huge.
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INnoVation spawns in the bottom left
herO spawns in the top right
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