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[WCS] Day 3 Season 2 Grand Finals 2013 - Page 312
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Elroi
Sweden5600 Posts
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openbox1
1393 Posts
Now he needs to fix his ZvT. Remember, you can't even blame balance because two of the games widow mines didn't come into play. He botched the defence against triple bunker and bomber won the last set with rine/tank... rine tank... come on... I think in this tournament, both JD and Bomber proved that they could dismantle Tosses like tossing toothpicks. Scarlett showed she could stick in with top Code S Koreans. Worried for Innovation. He's been getting spanked left and right and a loss to Naniwa... wow... | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On August 26 2013 16:46 ArcadeR wrote: Are you a wizard  ? Obv he'd overcome his troubles when he simply puts enough time in his practice and knows where his faults are... His trouble with zvp was massively over stated, and his rate of improvement was pretty quick. Honestly speaking, unless something bizarre happens I expect him to win the next season finals + blizzcon. | ||
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painkilla
United States695 Posts
On August 26 2013 16:07 Schelim wrote: holy motherfucking SHIT fuck YEAAAAAAAH BOMBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i watched the VODs of the semis last night and the finals just now and i'm so fucking happy right now. today is gonna be a good day. Bomber is a fucking monster. it looks like one of my top 3 favorite players is about to take the spot another one used to hold (Mvp). perfect game sense, great series planning, huge variety of builds, high mental strength, and he actually has better macro than Mvp when he won fucking everything. holy fuck i feel so good right now. Bomber is very much like Mvp with better macro but I think his series planning is not as good as Mvp's yet. If you look at the series against Rain in OSL, when his plan didn't go well he kinda fell apart and just lose badly. | ||
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negativedge
4279 Posts
On August 26 2013 15:39 Die4Ever wrote: I wouldn't look to this series for balance, Bomber was keeping up in supply with Jaedong even before any engagements happen when Zerg is supposed to be ahead in supply, also Bomber was usually getting a lead before he even got 3/3. zergs do not have supply leads in standard TvZ anymore. especially when the terran isn't even building any marauders | ||
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NexCa
Germany954 Posts
On August 26 2013 17:23 painkilla wrote: Bomber is very much like Mvp with better macro but I think his series planning is not as good as Mvp's yet. If you look at the series against Rain in OSL, when his plan didn't go well he kinda fell apart and just lose badly. Better Macro than MVP ? Kidding me !? oO | ||
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
On August 26 2013 17:11 openbox1 wrote: JD fixed his JvP and his ZvZ was always stellar. Now he needs to fix his ZvT. Remember, you can't even blame balance because two of the games widow mines didn't come into play. He botched the defence against triple bunker and bomber won the last set with rine/tank... rine tank... come on... I think in this tournament, both JD and Bomber proved that they could dismantle Tosses like tossing toothpicks. Scarlett showed she could stick in with top Code S Koreans. Worried for Innovation. He's been getting spanked left and right and a loss to Naniwa... wow... He prepared perfectly against First, I guess it was more important than to train TvZ, too, overnight. He only had to play against protoss until after his semi final so I don't blame him for not preparing too much. The same thing goes for bomber, though and he looked phenomenal. | ||
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iGn1t3
Hong Kong73 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Are you kidding? I didn't think that was in question at all | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
definitely better macro than Mvp. Bomber has been a fucking macro god even when he honestly wasn't winning much. before Innovation and Flash hit the sc2 scene he was clearly the best macro terran in the world imo. even now it's arguable, but those two are some pretty strong competition in that regard. Bomber has an experience and game sense advantage on both of them though imo. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
As much as I love mvp, bomber is a mechanical god. Watch his stream and you will see how clean he plays. I don't think any terran is better at macro. Mvp's strengths lie elsewhere. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 26 2013 18:17 monkybone wrote: why do they put titles on the vods? just to spoil the shit out of people who watch them? Yes, they do it just to spite you | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
Well deserved win by a great SC2 player. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
yeah comfortably. Mvp's macro was always pretty good but not outstanding like Bombers. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On August 26 2013 12:01 usethis2 wrote: Taeja is one of those generic terrans who managed to survive after the GomTvT era. He is overly hyped for being in team liquid, but if you look at his games he lacks that something. Brilliance, star sense, aura, whatever you call it. Lol rubbish. He's anything but a "generic Terran" who "managed to survive" after terran imbalance. He frequently displays Brilliance, and showed it off plenty of times over the weekend against innovation and Rain in particular. | ||
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Abominous
Croatia1625 Posts
Think it's a fact taught in Korean schools already. | ||
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ShroudeD
Greece1333 Posts
On August 26 2013 18:20 Dodgin wrote: As much as I love mvp, bomber is a mechanical god. Watch his stream and you will see how clean he plays. I don't think any terran is better at macro. Mvp's strengths lie elsewhere. Innovation is better at macro | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On August 26 2013 18:49 AxionSteel wrote: yeah comfortably. Mvp's macro was always pretty good but not outstanding like Bombers. To be fair, I always found it weird people look at macro and micro independently. Once you get to the mid game, it is all about how you spread your APM. Bomber always prioritized macro (so he sometimes loses armies due to lack of micro). He was the opposite of MKP who would prioritize his micro. Mvp was successful because he found the best balance between the two (Innovation is probably the best at balancing the 2 right now, but his strategies aren't as flexible). | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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