On August 26 2013 12:01 usethis2 wrote:
Taeja is one of those generic terrans who managed to survive after the GomTvT era. He is overly hyped for being in team liquid, but if you look at his games he lacks that something. Brilliance, star sense, aura, whatever you call it.

wtf are you smoking? He took out Innovation, Rain, duckdeok this weekend, ALL won championships this year. You got to be trolling....

Havik_

United States5585 Posts

August 26 2013 03:32 GMT

#6185

On August 26 2013 12:21 usethis2 wrote:
BTW terrans should acknowledge that marine + tank is just as viable as in WOL. I see more and more terrans doing tank push for whatever reason and they make it work. Perhaps some terrans are too used to mines (*cough* bogus *cough*) and the temporal aspect it provides, but marine + tank still works great if you are willing. Your marines will still get 3-3 way before zerg can have efficient engagements. Heck, it's not uncommon to see just marine + marauder + medivac without any tank or mine for players like MKP or Polt. Unfortunately David Kim likes the randomness of widow mine and thinks it provides "excitement" to viewers so it's unlikely anything will change about widow mines. But it's something to think about. For me marine + tank vs muta + ling is more exciting than marine + mine vs muta + ling.

True. Yet when I said Terrans should go back to using tanks again I got flamed and was told I had no clue what I was talking about. lol. Mines have their place, but so do tanks. The biggest benefit being that they don't have a 40 second cool down between firing, and the trade off being no anti-air.

usethis2

2164 Posts

August 26 2013 03:33 GMT

#6186

Thank you. Those are pretty good achievement to say the least. Still I don't think he's a champion. Kind of like I don't consider Hyun champion.

Die4Ever

United States17676 Posts

August 26 2013 03:34 GMT

#6187

On August 26 2013 12:33 usethis2 wrote:
Thank you. Those are pretty good achievement to say the least. Still I don't think he's a champion. Kind of like I don't consider Hyun champion.

huh? He is a champion though, a multitime champion, you actually can't argue with that it's a fact lol

babylon

8765 Posts

August 26 2013 03:37 GMT

#6188

What's your definition of a champion if not a player that has won a championship (or multiple)? .-.

usethis2

2164 Posts

August 26 2013 03:38 GMT

#6189

Well, I am using the term "champion" at somewhat abstract level instead of counting number of titles. If you think Taeja or Hyun is/will be a great champion than I respect your opinion and will leave it at that. It's something we'll have to agree to disagree.

Seishou

Hong Kong16 Posts

August 26 2013 03:46 GMT

#6190

OH MY GOD
The bomber law has been broken!

Papples

United States117 Posts

August 26 2013 03:52 GMT

#6191

While JD is really good, I honestly think that if aLive had edged out First, he would have beaten JD pretty easily (considering that he 2-0'ed Scarlett). Shame First choked so badly.
Also, bomber so strong

Die4Ever

United States17676 Posts

August 26 2013 04:03 GMT

#6192

On August 26 2013 12:52 Papples wrote:
While JD is really good, I honestly think that if aLive had edged out First, he would have beaten JD pretty easily (considering that he 2-0'ed Scarlett). Shame First choked so badly.
Also, bomber so strong

seems like JD can only be good at 2 matchups at a time lol, maybe he should try Warcraft 2

ItsMeDomLee

Canada2732 Posts

August 26 2013 04:04 GMT

#6193

On August 26 2013 12:37 babylon wrote:
What's your definition of a champion if not a player that has won a championship (or multiple)? .-.

Someone who has won a Korean championship.

BigFan

TLADT24920 Posts

August 26 2013 04:07 GMT

#6194

On August 26 2013 07:54 BisuDagger wrote:

Show nested quote +

Well I'm so glad I got dragged into this.

This is a roughly debatable (with slots 6-10) but solid list
1. (T)

Flash
2.

NaDa
3.

Jaedong
4. (Z)

sAviOr
5.

Oov
6.

Bisu
7.

BoxeR
8.

JulyZerg
9. (T)

Fantasy
10. (P)

Stork

Jaedong wasn't even two rofl. Call me out when you have a solid BW foundation. Fanboiyism doesn't change stats or history. I know where Bisu sits and I'm comfortable with it.

Show nested quote +

Bisu beat Flash in the winner's league finals and the PL finals when Flash looked unbeatable in his vP. But I made this statement earlier and I think it frames the situation well.

It's like telling a shaq fan that they are anti micheal jordan
I can love one of the greatest for his position (shaq) and still have respect for the greatest of all time (Jordan). Which is why I have no qualm about saying Flash was the greatest BW player ever. But Bisu was the greatest protoss.

That's a pretty decent list although I may put Saviour ahead of Jaedong but I dunno my BW history that well. Ya, I'm aware of Bisu beating Flash in the PL finals but he cheesed, doesn't count

Winner's league final? Not sure what that is?

Edit: Jaedong will eventually win. Nice to see his spirit is not broken! :D

babylon

8765 Posts

August 26 2013 04:10 GMT

#6195

On August 26 2013 13:04 ItsMeDomLee wrote:

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Someone who has won a Korean championship.

That makes sense, but at the same time, I can't think of Stephano as anything other than a champion.

Die4Ever

United States17676 Posts

August 26 2013 04:24 GMT

#6196

On August 26 2013 13:04 ItsMeDomLee wrote:

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Someone who has won a Korean championship.

this makes a little bit of sense, until you look at Sniper, Jjakji, Roro, Seed, and realize that they're obviously not as accomplished as Taeja, MarineKing, Leenock, Hero.