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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44312 Posts
August 25 2013 15:40 GMT
#5821
On August 26 2013 00:39 GinDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 00:38 goody153 wrote:
so is it official that ? or am i wrong

t>z
z>p
p>t


P>T? I don't know about that one. Maybe we should ask Teaja


oh yeah i forgot taeja is terran
this is a quote
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
August 25 2013 15:40 GMT
#5822
On August 26 2013 00:39 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 00:38 GinDo wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:35 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:28 Salient wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:25 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:23 dcsoda wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:22 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:17 Bagi wrote:
Scarletts ZvT was miles ahead of Jaedongs.

She could've made the finals great, but alas.

ZvZ would be better than ZvT? You mad.


Games would've probably been closer and the storyline of foreigner in the finals would've made it much better for me at least.

Old story: they should have trained harder and played better.


Scarlett might be the second best player in the world. She barely lost to Bomber. I wish we could see her play Taeja.

Absolutely no.

She's definitely top 10.

I persoanlly think lif is still way way better, and liffe is probably not top 10 anymore.


Life is really dominant early game. But just dies later on.
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Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
August 25 2013 15:40 GMT
#5823
On August 26 2013 00:22 Killmouse wrote:
since scarlett 2-3 Bomber in a nailbiting series, can we say Scarlett is the best ZvTer?


no
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 25 2013 15:40 GMT
#5824
On August 26 2013 00:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 00:38 goody153 wrote:
so is it official that ? or am i wrong

t>z
z>p
p>t

I think it is still t>z=p>t. Bizzare, i know :D

I tend to agree with that even though the balance is pretty good.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Left hand
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland133 Posts
August 25 2013 15:41 GMT
#5825
On August 26 2013 00:36 Naphal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 00:35 Salient wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:28 Salient wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:25 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:23 dcsoda wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:22 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:17 Bagi wrote:
Scarletts ZvT was miles ahead of Jaedongs.

She could've made the finals great, but alas.

ZvZ would be better than ZvT? You mad.


Games would've probably been closer and the storyline of foreigner in the finals would've made it much better for me at least.

Old story: they should have trained harder and played better.


Scarlett might be the second best player in the world. She barely lost to Bomber. I wish we could see her play Taeja.


How does that even make sense. Do you believe Bomber ist he best player in the world? :x Not to mention that a close-loss to him doesn't make you second best in the world...

Taeja also lost close to him. Also 2nd best? :x


It was the world championship finals. Winning it gives Bomber a good claim to be the best player in the world.


at least its temporarily the only and best evidence for it, there is someone better? why did he not win?


By this logic, Scarlett is tied 5-8th best player in the world. She's better than that? Why didn't she finish higher?
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
August 25 2013 15:41 GMT
#5826
So now that Stephano retired, we're gonna have Scarlett fanboys to deal with? Yay
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 15:42:08
August 25 2013 15:41 GMT
#5827
On August 26 2013 00:40 Adonminus wrote:
Bomber seems solid in all match ups. Just so beautiful play, he really deserves this win. A real top level player.

While Jaedong seemed only strong in PvZ and ZvZ, only getting lucky by having no terrans on his way to the finals.


That what was probably the issue. No TvZ for a couple days. Yeah your gonna be rusty. And playing with Scarlett was perfect practice.
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Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
August 25 2013 15:42 GMT
#5828
On August 26 2013 00:37 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 00:35 Salient wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:28 Salient wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:25 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:23 dcsoda wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:22 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:17 Bagi wrote:
Scarletts ZvT was miles ahead of Jaedongs.

She could've made the finals great, but alas.

ZvZ would be better than ZvT? You mad.


Games would've probably been closer and the storyline of foreigner in the finals would've made it much better for me at least.

Old story: they should have trained harder and played better.


Scarlett might be the second best player in the world. She barely lost to Bomber. I wish we could see her play Taeja.


How does that even make sense. Do you believe Bomber ist he best player in the world? :x Not to mention that a close-loss to him doesn't make you second best in the world...

Taeja also lost close to him. Also 2nd best? :x


It was the world championship finals. Winning it gives Bomber a good claim to be the best player in the world.

taeja and inno both have better TvZ and at least taeja is better at TvP. it's really only TvT in which bomber is better than taeja and inno, which sucks when they meet head to head.

I doubt inno has better t v z, we really only see him playing soulkey.
As t v p, bomber is absolutely a beast, no doubt he would stormed first 4-0 if he advanced.
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
August 25 2013 15:42 GMT
#5829
On August 26 2013 00:34 Marchinko wrote:
Still a JaeDong fan. Happy for Bomber as well, maybe people will stop with that stupid Bomber's law crap now.

+ Show Spoiler +
Probably not


Stupid? It took him 2 fucking years.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44312 Posts
August 25 2013 15:42 GMT
#5830
On August 26 2013 00:40 GinDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 00:39 Tanzklaue wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:38 GinDo wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:35 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:28 Salient wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:25 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:23 dcsoda wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:22 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:17 Bagi wrote:
Scarletts ZvT was miles ahead of Jaedongs.

She could've made the finals great, but alas.

ZvZ would be better than ZvT? You mad.


Games would've probably been closer and the storyline of foreigner in the finals would've made it much better for me at least.

Old story: they should have trained harder and played better.


Scarlett might be the second best player in the world. She barely lost to Bomber. I wish we could see her play Taeja.

Absolutely no.

She's definitely top 10.

I persoanlly think lif is still way way better, and liffe is probably not top 10 anymore.


Life is really dominant early game. But just dies later on.


the only z player that i have seen that has a 50-50 percent chance of not dying in the late game is scarlett,sk and symbol .. the rest just wont survive late or die in midgame 3/3 terran
this is a quote
dcsoda
Profile Joined June 2011
United States583 Posts
August 25 2013 15:42 GMT
#5831
On August 26 2013 00:35 Salient wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:28 Salient wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:25 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:23 dcsoda wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:22 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:17 Bagi wrote:
Scarletts ZvT was miles ahead of Jaedongs.

She could've made the finals great, but alas.

ZvZ would be better than ZvT? You mad.


Games would've probably been closer and the storyline of foreigner in the finals would've made it much better for me at least.

Old story: they should have trained harder and played better.


Scarlett might be the second best player in the world. She barely lost to Bomber. I wish we could see her play Taeja.


How does that even make sense. Do you believe Bomber ist he best player in the world? :x Not to mention that a close-loss to him doesn't make you second best in the world...

Taeja also lost close to him. Also 2nd best? :x


It was the world championship finals. Winning it gives Bomber a good claim to be the best player in the world.


But why does this even matter? Dude just won a huge tournament with a lot of really good players. Isn't that enough?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 25 2013 15:42 GMT
#5832
On August 26 2013 00:40 GinDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 00:39 Tanzklaue wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:38 GinDo wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:35 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:28 Salient wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:25 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:23 dcsoda wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:22 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:17 Bagi wrote:
Scarletts ZvT was miles ahead of Jaedongs.

She could've made the finals great, but alas.

ZvZ would be better than ZvT? You mad.


Games would've probably been closer and the storyline of foreigner in the finals would've made it much better for me at least.

Old story: they should have trained harder and played better.


Scarlett might be the second best player in the world. She barely lost to Bomber. I wish we could see her play Taeja.

Absolutely no.

She's definitely top 10.

I persoanlly think lif is still way way better, and liffe is probably not top 10 anymore.


Life is really dominant early game. But just dies later on.

but if we take this tournament where Scarlett almost beat Bomber as evidence of her incredible skill, should we not also look at RSL and say Life is better than Scarlett 100%?

No, you're right we shouldn't. Lets not all make power ranks based on just this tournament.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
August 25 2013 15:43 GMT
#5833
All this "Player X is the best" crap can be avoided if you just talk about individual leagues and tournaments.

Scarlett is one of the best players in the WCS.

There, objective reality.
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
August 25 2013 15:43 GMT
#5834
playoffs exist specifically because the best player does not necessarily win. that's just fact. if we were looking for the best player, we would just crown a winner based on total season results

what makes playoffs exciting is the potential for an upset and for crazy events going on in each single game. and there's nothing wrong with that. playoffs are a fan tribute, not a way of determining skill. as long as we accept this, there should be no problem...
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
August 25 2013 15:43 GMT
#5835
--- Nuked ---
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
August 25 2013 15:43 GMT
#5836
On August 26 2013 00:41 Linwelin wrote:
So now that Stephano retired, we're gonna have Scarlett fanboys to deal with? Yay


IMO Scarlett has always been better the Stephano. Stephano is over-rated.
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Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1433 Posts
August 25 2013 15:43 GMT
#5837
On August 26 2013 00:42 Baroninthetree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 00:37 Tanzklaue wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:35 Salient wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:29 NarutO wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:28 Salient wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:25 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:23 dcsoda wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:22 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On August 26 2013 00:17 Bagi wrote:
Scarletts ZvT was miles ahead of Jaedongs.

She could've made the finals great, but alas.

ZvZ would be better than ZvT? You mad.


Games would've probably been closer and the storyline of foreigner in the finals would've made it much better for me at least.

Old story: they should have trained harder and played better.


Scarlett might be the second best player in the world. She barely lost to Bomber. I wish we could see her play Taeja.


How does that even make sense. Do you believe Bomber ist he best player in the world? :x Not to mention that a close-loss to him doesn't make you second best in the world...

Taeja also lost close to him. Also 2nd best? :x


It was the world championship finals. Winning it gives Bomber a good claim to be the best player in the world.

taeja and inno both have better TvZ and at least taeja is better at TvP. it's really only TvT in which bomber is better than taeja and inno, which sucks when they meet head to head.

I doubt inno has better t v z, we really only see him playing soulkey.
As t v p, bomber is absolutely a beast, no doubt he would stormed first 4-0 if he advanced.

lol, inno having worse tvz than bomber?
you just disqualified for every discusiion ever. you also make it sound like soulkey is bad at zvt. he is probably the best zvt player on the planet.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 25 2013 15:44 GMT
#5838
On August 26 2013 00:43 GinDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 00:41 Linwelin wrote:
So now that Stephano retired, we're gonna have Scarlett fanboys to deal with? Yay


IMO Scarlett has always been better the Stephano. Stephano is over-rated.

*sigh* Here we go.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
August 25 2013 15:44 GMT
#5839
Bomber finally showed his Supremacy.

Aww yeah... I feel so good.
The Bomber boy
HomeWorld
Profile Joined December 2011
Romania903 Posts
August 25 2013 15:45 GMT
#5840
On August 26 2013 00:39 Kinon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 00:37 HomeWorld wrote:
Scarlett second best player in the world. Jaedong doesn't even compares to her grasp of TvZ


She's far from being the second best in the world, but clearly her TvZ is much better.

Compare her match against Bomber from yesterday with Jaedong vs Bomber. Freaking big difference, to the point you might say how the hell that rookie(Jaedong) got in finals and be squashed so hard. Point is Scarlett's ZvT > Jaedong's ZvT by several light years.
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