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On August 18 2013 19:14 Raambo11 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 19:12 NarutO wrote:
Too much stupidity here once again. INnoVation fights were always cost efficient due to medivac count and SoulKey was low economy to begin with. Also I really don't understand the muta switch in the end. When the medivac count was too high for him to handle, it was already too late. Also he k ept rallying single Zerglings and roaches into INnoVations army at his own 3rd and threw away the chances he had.
SoulKey should take a more defensive approach with potential smaller runbys. Great game up until a certain point. Brilliant control by INnoVation in nearly every fight.
Also people complaining that ZERG LOST THAT GAME DUE TO THE MATCH UP. You realize SoulKey was more or less allin already with his roach/bane bust vs 3 ccs in the beginning? But keep blaming Terran. Actually agree with this. The commentators were making it seem like Soulkey was on the verge of winning all game. Soulkey should have stopped making roaches after the first attack, he even had the melee attack upgrade. Just go ling bane.
He was on the verge of winning for much of the game, just couldn't do enough damage and then Bogus's more balanced build pulled ahead as the game went longer.
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On August 18 2013 19:16 Jombozeus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 19:13 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 18 2013 19:11 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 18 2013 19:10 Trius wrote:
Soulkey vs Innovation is like new Mvp vs MKP. Nah. That's an even more imbalanced matchup. MKP has never beaten MVP in a boX as far as I know :p Mvp vs MKP was at least player with mechanics and good usage of brains beating player with simply mechanics. SK vs Bogus seems like player with godly mechanics beating player with no-so-godly mechanics, yet some brilliant ideas. Innovations mechanics is bar none better than any other terran in the world. Against Soulkey's style, if you get hit by one big baneling hit, you are out of the game. Innovation consistently splits and snipes banelings every single time, without fail. No other terran does it nearly as well as he does. Its just hard to appreciate tvz mechanics because splits look so similar nowadays.
I did say that innovation is player with godly mechanics. And i did try marine split challenge and am aware that it is hard as **** to split , macro and other stuff.
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Isn't 3 hatch a pretty standard response to CC first, these days?
I say screw it, go 4 hatch. Gotta go something...
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On August 18 2013 19:17 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 19:15 massivez wrote:
Innovation was 1-1 the whole time also. Medivacs just negate that upgrade defecit if soulkey only rushed to hive and 3-3 .. he may have been in a better situation ..
or he would have died earlier because he wouldn't have had any units
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On August 18 2013 19:17 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 19:15 massivez wrote:
Innovation was 1-1 the whole time also. Medivacs just negate that upgrade defecit if soulkey only rushed to hive and 3-3 .. he may have been in a better situation ..
No, he would have died to that same push.
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On August 18 2013 19:18 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Isn't 3 hatch a pretty standard response to CC first, these days?
Yes, the casters really have a poor understanding of this game...
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On August 18 2013 19:15 massivez wrote:
Innovation was 1-1 the whole time also. Medivacs just negate that upgrade defecit
this "upgrade deficit" was only the last 2minutes.
But funny is that sk killed ebay 2-3 times and however inno was ahead in upgrades except the last 2minutes and sk was still unable to go hive.
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2 base timing incoming from Innovation.
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On August 18 2013 19:19 Dingodile wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 19:15 massivez wrote:
Innovation was 1-1 the whole time also. Medivacs just negate that upgrade defecit this "upgrade deficit" was only the last 2minutes. But funny is that sk killed ebay 2-3 times and however inno was ahead in upgrades except the last 2minutes and sk was still unable to go hive.
Actually innovation was behind on armor upgrade according to some.
Roach bane, hell yeah! But this time it is against not 3 CC 2 EB. So GG, gratz Inno.
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On August 18 2013 19:17 Snusmumriken wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 19:15 Raambo11 wrote:On August 18 2013 19:14 Highways wrote:
TvZ in Korea, last three tournaments:
GSL (U&D): 9-4
OSL: 17-7
Proleague: 52-29 Wonder how many of those are from Innovation. It was said only innovation (and maybe flash) could pull of this tvz. Thats obviously false. Any highly skilled terran seems to be able to beat the best zergs in the world pretty easily and I havent seen a zerg win a proper macrogame vs a top-terran in a while now. And i play terran 0_o
Saw how MKP looked vs SoulKey, but I guess MKP is completely unskilled to begin with :[
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fast +1 attack from innovation .. poor soulkey
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this time soulkey gets lings in position to morph banes way quickers but inno goes for 2 base timing, this is gonna be strange
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does the obs not notice that it is zoomed in?
i get angrier the more i watch this crap! such great players and they ruin everything with the casters and the bad observer
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this camera angle is really ticking me off  gogo inno!
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These casters have no idea. Last game the amount of medivacs helped INnoVation and made him win the game. Soulkey was not unusually aggressive. INnoVation did NOT hit any timing.
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It seems like only Bomber doesn't know how to play tvz nowadays
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