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[WCG KR] Finals and Third Place Match 2013 - Page 18

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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 18 2013 10:12 GMT
#341
On August 18 2013 19:10 Trius wrote:
Soulkey vs Innovation is like new Mvp vs MKP.

who is MKP? Did he ever win anything?
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
August 18 2013 10:12 GMT
#342
On August 18 2013 19:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 19:09 -Kaiser- wrote:
"It looks like these 7 lings will be able to clean these 6 marines, 20 rallying marines, and 9 medivacs up."

There were freaking 47 of 'em :S

the joke still works
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
August 18 2013 10:12 GMT
#343
Innovation vs Soulkey starting to get really old when every game is a foregone conclusion.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5298 Posts
August 18 2013 10:12 GMT
#344
it was the usual - kill 2934723423 terran scvs, deny his expansions into terran win
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Raambo11
Profile Joined April 2011
United States828 Posts
August 18 2013 10:12 GMT
#345
On August 18 2013 19:10 ReMinD_ wrote:
Another game that proves Soulkey is the better player.


Wut? Soulkey lost the game man. The last few attacks he did were NOT cost effecient. Roaches are a huge double edge sword because if you stay on them too long your asking to lose. The last fight it was roaches vs 10 medivacs, thats not going to go well.
calh
Profile Joined March 2013
537 Posts
August 18 2013 10:12 GMT
#346
On August 18 2013 19:11 RaFox17 wrote:
Did innovation had any economy?? 2-base versus 4-base and you just get rolled.

Economy didn't matter when Soulkey was trading resources in a terrible ratio the whole game, even when he did the flanking. The timing of the flank was off, allowing Innovation to spread.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
August 18 2013 10:12 GMT
#347
Poll: What will soulkey do in game 2 ?

RoachBane again then lose (7)
 
78%

6 pool ? (1)
 
11%

10 pool ?? (1)
 
11%

9 total votes

Your vote: What will soulkey do in game 2 ?

(Vote): RoachBane again then lose
(Vote): 6 pool ?
(Vote): 10 pool ??


this is a quote
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
August 18 2013 10:13 GMT
#348
On August 18 2013 19:09 ACrow wrote:
Terran is up by 30 supply, an army destroying the Z's third. Commentator: "don't worry, Soulkey is fine, he has a fourth"

wut?!?


yea, not the most analytical pair, my fav casters right now as a pair are idra and khalador.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 18 2013 10:13 GMT
#349
On August 18 2013 19:11 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 19:10 Trius wrote:
Soulkey vs Innovation is like new Mvp vs MKP.


Nah. That's an even more imbalanced matchup. MKP has never beaten MVP in a boX as far as I know :p

Mvp vs MKP was at least player with mechanics and good usage of brains beating player with simply mechanics. SK vs Bogus seems like player with godly mechanics beating player with no-so-godly mechanics, yet some brilliant ideas.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Fuzzmosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada752 Posts
August 18 2013 10:13 GMT
#350
Soulkey, throwing away his detection. Not getting anything to hit air. Suiciding units instead of taking free buildings to try and killl....?

Maybe he thought he had a 80 supply lead?

I'm From Canada, so they think I'm slow, eh?
Megiddosc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States966 Posts
August 18 2013 10:13 GMT
#351
On August 18 2013 19:10 SsoL wrote:
Innovation's control is still outstanding. Any other terran would have died to the roach/bane push.

Did you not watch Polt vs Jaedong?
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
August 18 2013 10:13 GMT
#352
On August 18 2013 19:11 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 19:10 Trius wrote:
Soulkey vs Innovation is like new Mvp vs MKP.


Nah. That's an even more imbalanced matchup. MKP has never beaten MVP in a boX as far as I know :p


I don't think any top player has brutalized another top player (both in their primes) than Mvp vs MKP.
-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-18 10:14:55
August 18 2013 10:14 GMT
#353
On August 18 2013 19:13 Fuzzmosis wrote:
Soulkey, throwing away his detection. Not getting anything to hit air. Suiciding units instead of taking free buildings to try and killl....?

Maybe he thought he had a 80 supply lead?



I wouldn't be surprised, the casters seemed to think he did.

"Soulkey was winning that game by any stretch of the imagination."

They just keep fucking going. I liked GOMplayer when I could filter out the pitch of some casters' voices.
3 Hatch Before Cool
Jombozeus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
China1014 Posts
August 18 2013 10:14 GMT
#354
Soulkey did a ling bane roach on lots of eco build... Its weakness is upgrades/medivac for longevity against little staying power of the burst damage army, and a big timing hole between a switch to mutas and/or ultras.

Its physically impossible for terran not to take massive damage to that build, but once they have held, they are often even or ahead. A game where you are only "slightly ahead" with soulkey's style is in reality an even match or playing from behind. Its just the nature of that particular playstyle.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
August 18 2013 10:14 GMT
#355
I really do think infestors into hive is the much much better transition when in SK position. Dunno why we never see infestors. Fungal is till good in alot of situations
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
August 18 2013 10:14 GMT
#356
Soulkey started to make some really bad trades half way into the game. Followed by a super risky muta switch and killing 12 SCV's with 8 banelings... T__T

But other than that I feel like this is the superior way to play against MMMM.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 18 2013 10:14 GMT
#357
awww poor zergs. So much rage. Even I'm starting to feel bad for them now

Raambo11
Profile Joined April 2011
United States828 Posts
August 18 2013 10:14 GMT
#358
On August 18 2013 19:12 NarutO wrote:
Too much stupidity here once again. INnoVation fights were always cost efficient due to medivac count and SoulKey was low economy to begin with. Also I really don't understand the muta switch in the end. When the medivac count was too high for him to handle, it was already too late. Also he k ept rallying single Zerglings and roaches into INnoVations army at his own 3rd and threw away the chances he had.

SoulKey should take a more defensive approach with potential smaller runbys. Great game up until a certain point. Brilliant control by INnoVation in nearly every fight.

Also people complaining that ZERG LOST THAT GAME DUE TO THE MATCH UP. You realize SoulKey was more or less allin already with his roach/bane bust vs 3 ccs in the beginning? But keep blaming Terran.


Actually agree with this. The commentators were making it seem like Soulkey was on the verge of winning all game. Soulkey should have stopped making roaches after the first attack, he even had the melee attack upgrade. Just go ling bane.
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6105 Posts
August 18 2013 10:14 GMT
#359
TvZ in Korea, last three tournaments:

GSL (U&D): 9-4
OSL: 17-7
Proleague: 52-29
#1 Terran hater
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 18 2013 10:14 GMT
#360
Not sure about this muta switch, being ahead in upgrade he should have pushed for hive while keeping massing ling and blings and going for 3/3. Corruptors would have been better than mutas actually :o
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