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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 07 2013 19:31 GMT
#1801
Twitch, please, I just want the 480p, that's all I need from you
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3772 Posts
August 07 2013 19:31 GMT
#1802
NaNiwa means business! So happy!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 07 2013 19:31 GMT
#1803
not sure the casters noticed, but Happy took out the larvae with his hellions. Since larvae are light units, you can easily take them out with that many hellions so it delays zerg production even more. Thought I'll mention it for those that don't know about this
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3399 Posts
August 07 2013 19:31 GMT
#1804
Tefel is looking like a one-trick pony.
Maybe he will at least try to hit a good timing this game.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 07 2013 19:32 GMT
#1805
On August 08 2013 04:29 The_Templar wrote:
(Z)Tefel vs (T)Happy
0-1


Map: Newkirk Precinct
Tefel spawns in the bottom right
Happy spawns in the bottom left

1:00
Spawning pool for Tefel.

2:00
Happy going with a CC first on the high ground followed by a barracks.
Hatchery for Tefel

3:00
Refinery for Happy.

4:00
Factory for Happy.

5:00
Happy landing his CC in the natural expansion
Fast third CC for Happy.
Tefel gas less so far, with three queens.
Tefel getting a third base.

6:00 (Z)Tefel 44 (T)Happy 27
Reactor hellions for Happy.
Happy getting his second gas at his natural expansion instead of his main.
Tefel walling his natural with 2 evo chambers + 2 queens + a roach warren.


7:00 (Z)Tefel 57 (T)Happy 48
Hellions do not manage to get into the natural because of queens.
Happy going marine/tank.

8:00 (Z)Tefel 76 (T)Happy 61
Hellions at the third are forced to retreat because of roaches.
Happy has a starport.
Hellions kill 6 drones.
Roach speed for Tefel

9:00 (Z)Tefel 85 (T)Happy 68
Happy taking his third base.
1/1 ranged attacks nearly finished for Tefel, 10 roaches in production.

10:00 (Z)Tefel 122 (T)Happy 81
Hellions finally die.
Happy scans the main and sees the lair.
Vikings moving around and killing overlords.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 07 2013 19:32 GMT
#1806
On August 08 2013 04:31 KristofferAG wrote:
Twitch, please, I just want the 480p, that's all I need from you

loving my 720p lag free
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 07 2013 19:32 GMT
#1807
Happy's going to be superready.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
August 07 2013 19:32 GMT
#1808
Does Tefel have any other openings in his locker, like muta /bane?
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
August 07 2013 19:32 GMT
#1809
On August 08 2013 04:25 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 04:17 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:11 sAsImre wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:09 DavoS wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:07 mikumegurine wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:04 Rhaegal wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:02 mikumegurine wrote:
hmmm

7 koreans in WCS EU ro32

16 koreans in WCS NA ro32

since koreans "generally" are better than foreigners

does that means WCS NA is more competitive than WCS EU?





Of course... no one is going to argue WCS EU is higher level than WCS NA


so WCS NA premier league is harder than WCS EU premier league

but WCS NA grandmaster is easier than WCS EU grandmaster? (some EU players said WCS EU GM is harder than WCS NA)


American ladder weaker ladder, but no self respecting Korean would play on there unless they had to. You don't need to be ranked Master/GM on the NA ladder to compete in the NA region.
Because Blizzard


being in GM is a joke for most koreans pro on NA/Eu, enforcing it would do nothing. Let's not talk about master.

I still think it'd make a good prerequisite. Not so much as an entry barrier, any korean pro gamer should make GM relatively easy. However, what it does lead to is an increase of Korean opponents for up-and-coming NA pro gamers (by virtue of it taking longer to reach GM). More Koreans opponents on the NA server = the stronger the server becomes.

it'll kick out all of the bottom tier gm player. And you can get GM easily in less than 100games, ppl aren't gonna need to practice on NA to be on it, just a lot of GM players are gonna be inactive.

That's not my point at all. I already agreed with you saying that GM would be an easy achievement for a Korean so naturally it means the bottom tier GM players fall out. What I'm saying is that the GM prereq forces a "timesink" so to speak. Yes we're not talking about consistent activity, but if we're talking about 100 games, it's still 10x the amount for Masters.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 07 2013 19:33 GMT
#1810
I mean, smart move going in from the North like that, but losing so many units.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
RagingDragon
Profile Joined April 2013
United States233 Posts
August 07 2013 19:33 GMT
#1811
WHY DONT YOU LIFT IT HEEWAHWOOOAHH!!!!! :D
Fear is the mind-killer.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 07 2013 19:33 GMT
#1812
so many roaches lost and no tanks lost. Almost got cc though.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Like a Boss
Profile Joined January 2011
502 Posts
August 07 2013 19:33 GMT
#1813
On August 08 2013 04:33 RagingDragon wrote:
WHY DONT YOU LIFT IT HEEWAHWOOOAHH!!!!! :D


LOL
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 07 2013 19:34 GMT
#1814
On August 08 2013 04:32 Topdoller wrote:
Does Tefel have any other openings in his locker, like muta /bane?

Nope, never.
General Nuke Em
Profile Joined March 2008
United States680 Posts
August 07 2013 19:34 GMT
#1815
Too bad he didn't just mix in some banelings and attack move into the natural.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 07 2013 19:34 GMT
#1816
On August 08 2013 04:32 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 04:25 sAsImre wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:17 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:11 sAsImre wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:09 DavoS wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:07 mikumegurine wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:04 Rhaegal wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:02 mikumegurine wrote:
hmmm

7 koreans in WCS EU ro32

16 koreans in WCS NA ro32

since koreans "generally" are better than foreigners

does that means WCS NA is more competitive than WCS EU?





Of course... no one is going to argue WCS EU is higher level than WCS NA


so WCS NA premier league is harder than WCS EU premier league

but WCS NA grandmaster is easier than WCS EU grandmaster? (some EU players said WCS EU GM is harder than WCS NA)


American ladder weaker ladder, but no self respecting Korean would play on there unless they had to. You don't need to be ranked Master/GM on the NA ladder to compete in the NA region.
Because Blizzard


being in GM is a joke for most koreans pro on NA/Eu, enforcing it would do nothing. Let's not talk about master.

I still think it'd make a good prerequisite. Not so much as an entry barrier, any korean pro gamer should make GM relatively easy. However, what it does lead to is an increase of Korean opponents for up-and-coming NA pro gamers (by virtue of it taking longer to reach GM). More Koreans opponents on the NA server = the stronger the server becomes.

it'll kick out all of the bottom tier gm player. And you can get GM easily in less than 100games, ppl aren't gonna need to practice on NA to be on it, just a lot of GM players are gonna be inactive.

That's not my point at all. I already agreed with you saying that GM would be an easy achievement for a Korean so naturally it means the bottom tier GM players fall out. What I'm saying is that the GM prereq forces a "timesink" so to speak. Yes we're not talking about consistent activity, but if we're talking about 100 games, it's still 10x the amount for Masters.


yeah but you kick almost every american not in a pro team from trying to qualify from wcs.
Zest fanboy.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
August 07 2013 19:34 GMT
#1817
On August 08 2013 04:22 NovaMB wrote:
I guess thats why we barely see Roach/Hydra anymore. It looked so good for a while but drops just tear you apart

Using this game as an example of anything is a bad idea. Tefel played horrible, Happy made it a lot more difficult on himself than he needed to by sieging up in the worst place possible and losing all his tanks.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
August 07 2013 19:35 GMT
#1818
Nydus?
Drops?

Nope, better balance whine. That's how you play this game.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 07 2013 19:35 GMT
#1819
happy has a solid 161 supplyblock every game. this is quite funny.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 07 2013 19:35 GMT
#1820
Don't take that fight tefel!!!!!!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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