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GaliX
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany380 Posts
August 05 2013 19:46 GMT
#1421
oh jesus, there is still a possibility of a rematch Grubby vs. Hasuobs.
Longest group round in wcg for ever?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 05 2013 19:47 GMT
#1422
Hasuobs should pull out the proxy oracle
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
August 05 2013 19:47 GMT
#1423
Mvp obviously doesn't want to go to the late game against protoss but I think he would have no problems winning vs. Hasuobs in a straight up game.. these helion openings are just too risky since it can backfire when protoss counter attacks
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 05 2013 19:47 GMT
#1424
On August 06 2013 04:46 GaliX wrote:
oh jesus, there is still a possibility of a rematch Grubby vs. Hasuobs.
Longest group round in wcg for ever?

what about Hasuobs vs ret in a swarm host game
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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
August 05 2013 19:47 GMT
#1425
On August 06 2013 04:44 Dodgin wrote:
mini heart attack, protoss allins so scary and mvp had like 6 units left lol


They're not that scary. Terran has a much stronger and varied early game.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-05 19:48:23
August 05 2013 19:47 GMT
#1426
On August 06 2013 04:46 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 04:45 TeeTS wrote:
On August 06 2013 04:44 HolydaKing wrote:
Looks like the ramp FF only works vs Zerg.

was a bad BO choice by hasu. 2base gateway allins don't cut it at all anymore.

3 gate all in I believe.

this was a 4gate on 2bases. But whatever gateway allin you choose: 4gate, 5gate, 7gate.... they don't win you games anymore. All common terran builds we have these days work very good against these.
archon/zealot or storm/zealot allins are the only 2base allins I see really working for protoss in this metagame.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 05 2013 19:48 GMT
#1427
On August 06 2013 04:44 Dodgin wrote:
mini heart attack, protoss allins so scary and mvp had like 6 units left lol


6 Mvp units. He scared Leenock with a 40 minute 3 marine move out.
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 05 2013 19:48 GMT
#1428
I'm starting to think WCS AM will start before this group is even over.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
August 05 2013 19:48 GMT
#1429
relevant:
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 05 2013 19:48 GMT
#1430
On August 06 2013 04:48 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 04:44 Dodgin wrote:
mini heart attack, protoss allins so scary and mvp had like 6 units left lol


6 Mvp units. He scared Leenock with a 40 minute 3 marine move out.

Best. Game. Ever.
Long live the King of Wings
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 05 2013 19:48 GMT
#1431
On August 06 2013 04:48 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 04:44 Dodgin wrote:
mini heart attack, protoss allins so scary and mvp had like 6 units left lol


6 Mvp units. He scared Leenock with a 40 minute 3 marine move out.

"Awww shit, Mvp made attacking units again, I'm so dead."
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 05 2013 19:48 GMT
#1432
On August 06 2013 04:48 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 04:44 Dodgin wrote:
mini heart attack, protoss allins so scary and mvp had like 6 units left lol


6 Mvp units. He scared Leenock with a 40 minute 3 marine move out.


What's the conversion rate?
kiss kiss fall in love
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 05 2013 19:48 GMT
#1433
On August 06 2013 04:48 KristofferAG wrote:
I'm starting to think WCS AM will start before this group is even over.


i think that is likely
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 05 2013 19:48 GMT
#1434
On August 06 2013 04:48 Yello wrote:
relevant: + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N2N_eTiDGU

Damn that was quick.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
August 05 2013 19:49 GMT
#1435
Mvp actually starts off with a build order advantage... he plants his CC down much before Hasu's Nexus
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 05 2013 19:49 GMT
#1436
I thought for a moment that Hasu was gonna proxy.
kiss kiss fall in love
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 05 2013 19:49 GMT
#1437
On August 06 2013 04:47 TeeTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 04:46 BigFan wrote:
On August 06 2013 04:45 TeeTS wrote:
On August 06 2013 04:44 HolydaKing wrote:
Looks like the ramp FF only works vs Zerg.

was a bad BO choice by hasu. 2base gateway allins don't cut it at all anymore.

3 gate all in I believe.

this was a 4gate on 2bases. But whatever gateway allin you choose: 4gate, 5gate, 7gate.... they don't win you games anymore. All common terran builds we have these days work very good against these.

as long as you scout it though. Mvp held because he got more bunkers and stim finished right as the first bunker went down. Reason I said 3 was because I recall he had one then put two down according to apollo but I get your point.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 05 2013 19:49 GMT
#1438
On August 06 2013 04:49 IntoTheheart wrote:
I thought for a moment that Hasu was gonna proxy.

I don't think Hasu even knows what a proxy is.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 05 2013 19:50 GMT
#1439
On August 06 2013 04:48 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 04:48 KristofferAG wrote:
I'm starting to think WCS AM will start before this group is even over.


i think that is likely

Kiiinda hoping they'll wait for WCS EU to finish. Proobably wont happen.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 05 2013 19:50 GMT
#1440
(T)Mvp vs (P)HasuObs
1-1


Map: Bel'shir Vestige
Mvp spawns in the top right.
HasuObs spawns in the bottom left.

1:00
Nothing strange yet.

2:00
HasuObs gets one gas after gateway
Mvp goes CC first on the low ground.

3:00
2 barracks for Mvp but no gas yet.
HasuObs looking to expand but Mvp is blocking it with an SCV.

4:00
HasuObs finally takes his natural.
Mvp building a bunker at his natural and taking 2 geysers, HasuObs taking his second one.
Warp gate for HasuObs.

5:00
HasuObs scouting for proxies, finding none. He builds a stargate in the corner of his main.
He didn't scout the CC first from Mvp.
Mvp building an engineering bay
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