EPT[OSL] RO4 Day 1 WCS Korea Season 2 2013 - Page 92
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sparklyresidue
United States5524 Posts
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
On July 30 2013 22:52 renaissanceMAN wrote: you know what I mean about innovation winning the SPL, if he wins his match, or both his matches, he's going to remain top 3 easy I know, I just mean that it shouldn't count as much. SPL is no better than GSTL except its on TV in korea. Infact the format is a bit easier since most of the rounds aren't winner league. | ||
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
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massivez
Belgium653 Posts
TvT is no pushover against a prime Terran, Byun bopped Demuslim easy with funky strategies(not that he is on innovation lvl). | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On July 30 2013 22:59 sparklyresidue wrote: After watching Flash hold a 6pool last night due to diligent scouting while his initial BO was lowground 14cc, I have zero sympathy for Innovation here. It would've been cool to see him dominate completely, but he did not play this series well at all. Lost too much in game one, Overreaction in game two, Rattled in game three, macro game four. Innovation got socked in the face and lost his cool. Totally outplayed by Maru. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
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Wingblade
United States1806 Posts
On July 30 2013 22:12 renaissanceMAN wrote: anybody else think it's kind of bizarre that we haven't seen reigns like bw? where a player was absolutely dominant for 1-2 years (oov, nada, flash, savior) sure MVP and life were king of the hill for a while, but it wasn't any more than 6-8 months at the most... It's actually explained quite well by the author of the preview for this match. There are so many more tournaments in SC2 than there were in BW that it is extremely difficult to have a reign like that. Bonjwas in BW won about as many tournaments as some of the guys with smaller reigns in SC2 but it looks different because the tourneys were stretched over years at a time. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27462 Posts
On July 30 2013 22:59 redviper wrote: Sad thing is that Innovation isn't even crying. MKP would have cried. That is why its hard to even like Innovation. No emotion IRL and no grace in the game. Tbh you just seem to hate Innovation. Yeah he's not the most charismatic but what does it even mean to say his game has no 'grace'? | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Congrats to the winner ! so sad I had no way of seeing it live T.T . | ||
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Thinasy
2856 Posts
On July 30 2013 23:00 redviper wrote: I know, I just mean that it shouldn't count as much. SPL is no better than GSTL except its on TV in korea. Infact the format is a bit easier since most of the rounds aren't winner league. SPL is alot harder then GSTL, sorry. | ||
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Obbim
Sweden7 Posts
GJ Maru! I knew this dude would be awsome first time I saw him gueststream on Byuns stream. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On July 30 2013 23:16 Obbim wrote: So tired of everyone callin Maru a lame cheeser. From what I have seen, all TvTs have been pretty much based on 1 base agression for the last few months, so whats the upset? If Maru wins 4-0, he is clearly currently better then innovation, regardless of tactic. Starcraft is about winning, thats ALL that matters. Not who can macro the most. GJ Maru! I knew this dude would be awsome first time I saw him gueststream on Byuns stream. I agree with the sentiment that ultimately results > everything, tvt hasn't just been 1 base aggression recently at all. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8760 Posts
What an upset, and way to go Maru to keep dem fanboys of inno stirring like a hornet's nest :D | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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convention
United States622 Posts
On July 30 2013 23:16 Obbim wrote: So tired of everyone callin Maru a lame cheeser. From what I have seen, all TvTs have been pretty much based on 1 base agression for the last few months, so whats the upset? If Maru wins 4-0, he is clearly currently better then innovation, regardless of tactic. Starcraft is about winning, thats ALL that matters. Not who can macro the most. GJ Maru! I knew this dude would be awsome first time I saw him gueststream on Byuns stream. I think my favorite quote I've seen about "cheesing", is that you have the earn the right to play a macro game. If you can't hold off 1 base aggression while trying to early expand, then you can't do an early expand. Maru clearly knew how to beat Innovation, really cool to see him finally doing well. I don't really want a TvT finals, but it would be awesome to see Maru v Bomber finals, since both of those guys have struggled for so long, but both of them have been so good. | ||
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
On July 30 2013 23:08 Wombat_NI wrote: Tbh you just seem to hate Innovation. Yeah he's not the most charismatic but what does it even mean to say his game has no 'grace'? Its not like I am trying to hide it. You aren't seeing some deep dark secret. I hate Innovation. Because he has none. His games have no grace because they are lacking style and innovation. He is brute force mechanics and no thought. | ||
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PerSe
United Kingdom550 Posts
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braller
96 Posts
On July 30 2013 22:22 redviper wrote: I don't think Maru is the best player. I said Maru is a better player right now. Innovation is nowhere near the levels of the hype that people seem to associate to him. He didn't show any innovation (haha) or insight in his matches ever. Yeah he has good mechanics but how has he evolved the metagame? Sure he's "boring," but he's also currently at 77.77777% in TvZ and 80% in TvP. Those are both absurd numbers, especially given that he hasn't exactly had many "easy" opponents to pad his numbers. | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On July 30 2013 23:29 redviper wrote: Its not like I am trying to hide it. You aren't seeing some deep dark secret. I hate Innovation. Because he has none. His games have no grace because they are lacking style and innovation. He is brute force mechanics and no thought. "No thoughts". Damn I laughed so hard... The man is cold, and he has insane mechanics. That doesn't prevent to show some respect (even if you hate him, no problem with that) and not to spit some random bullshit about him. That being said, I'm happy for Maru !  | ||
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SebaZ
Italy223 Posts
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