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[ATC] Millenium vs Quantic, Week 16 - Page 2

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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 29 2013 13:26 GMT
#21
On July 29 2013 22:24 shid0x wrote:
Why on earth would you send dayshi first ?
I...i'm just a player and a lambda TL poster but i find this a pretty bad decision.
Dayshi is typically the player you DONT wanna align first,especially after studying a bit how quantic behave in these teamleagues.

Man who decide what player to send if you read me you...you just make no sense...

It totally makes sense. With a 5-0 win, Millenium would have been officially qualified. Sending your strongest player first is the best way to make an all-kill.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
July 29 2013 13:26 GMT
#22
On July 29 2013 22:24 shid0x wrote:
Why on earth would you send dayshi first ?
I...i'm just a player and a lambda TL poster but i find this a pretty bad decision.
Dayshi is typically the player you DONT wanna align first,especially after studying a bit how quantic behave in these teamleagues.

Man who decide what player to send if you read me you...you just make no sense...


Well maybe they hoped for an all-kill from Dayshi, then they had qualified today.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 13:27:02
July 29 2013 13:26 GMT
#23
On July 29 2013 22:24 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 22:14 Aeromi wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:13 Amestir wrote:
Not often I see a completely unfamliliar name. Who is Venus?



A former MVP player.

Actually he was a random B-teamer on TSL before they disbanded and somehow quantic ended up getting him.



According to Liquipedia his alternative ID is VenusMVP but you are maybe right ! ^^
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Acer.ParanOid
Profile Joined June 2007
Poland133 Posts
July 29 2013 13:32 GMT
#24
On July 29 2013 22:26 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 22:24 shid0x wrote:
Why on earth would you send dayshi first ?
I...i'm just a player and a lambda TL poster but i find this a pretty bad decision.
Dayshi is typically the player you DONT wanna align first,especially after studying a bit how quantic behave in these teamleagues.

Man who decide what player to send if you read me you...you just make no sense...

It totally makes sense. With a 5-0 win, Millenium would have been officially qualified. Sending your strongest player first is the best way to make an all-kill.



They wouldnt have been qualified if they went 5-0, but that would greatly help them. Hypotherically they could still lose 0-5 to Axiom in the other encounter(assuming it hasnt been played yet and you dont know the scores).
publicenemy~
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
July 29 2013 13:33 GMT
#25
On July 29 2013 22:26 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 22:24 shid0x wrote:
Why on earth would you send dayshi first ?
I...i'm just a player and a lambda TL poster but i find this a pretty bad decision.
Dayshi is typically the player you DONT wanna align first,especially after studying a bit how quantic behave in these teamleagues.

Man who decide what player to send if you read me you...you just make no sense...

It totally makes sense. With a 5-0 win, Millenium would have been officially qualified. Sending your strongest player first is the best way to make an all-kill.


well if you think that way you certainly wouldn't make a good team manager in my opinion.
Dayshi is horrible against protoss and by horrible i mean really,really bad.

Quantic since they are out of ATC and even a bit before always used a protoss first,be it venus,hs,TREME...
And since they are now definitevely out its only normal that they would send their ''new'' players to the test bench ( TREME and venus ).

You now had a 60-70 % chance that quantic would have send a protoss,if you are the millenium manager you don't want to send dayshi,you just don't want it.


The best choice would have been feast if he was in shape otherwise goswer who is ok against all races.
RIP MKP
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 29 2013 13:33 GMT
#26
On July 29 2013 22:32 Acer.ParanOid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 22:26 Boucot wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:24 shid0x wrote:
Why on earth would you send dayshi first ?
I...i'm just a player and a lambda TL poster but i find this a pretty bad decision.
Dayshi is typically the player you DONT wanna align first,especially after studying a bit how quantic behave in these teamleagues.

Man who decide what player to send if you read me you...you just make no sense...

It totally makes sense. With a 5-0 win, Millenium would have been officially qualified. Sending your strongest player first is the best way to make an all-kill.



They wouldnt have been qualified if they went 5-0, but that would greatly help them. Hypotherically they could still lose 0-5 to Axiom in the other encounter(assuming it hasnt been played yet and you dont know the scores).

Yes but they would be at +14, just like Acer. And Millenium beat Acer twice so they would be ahead of Acer.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
July 29 2013 13:35 GMT
#27
On July 29 2013 22:32 Acer.ParanOid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 22:26 Boucot wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:24 shid0x wrote:
Why on earth would you send dayshi first ?
I...i'm just a player and a lambda TL poster but i find this a pretty bad decision.
Dayshi is typically the player you DONT wanna align first,especially after studying a bit how quantic behave in these teamleagues.

Man who decide what player to send if you read me you...you just make no sense...

It totally makes sense. With a 5-0 win, Millenium would have been officially qualified. Sending your strongest player first is the best way to make an all-kill.



They wouldnt have been qualified if they went 5-0, but that would greatly help them. Hypotherically they could still lose 0-5 to Axiom in the other encounter(assuming it hasnt been played yet and you dont know the scores).

They hold the tiebreak against acer by beating them twice. Thus staying at the same map score and match score as acer, they would qualify.

PS : Unless you mean that Kaoru would work his magic to get undisclosed tie-breaker rules out of his hat.
Acer.ParanOid
Profile Joined June 2007
Poland133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 13:36:55
July 29 2013 13:35 GMT
#28
On July 29 2013 22:33 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 22:32 Acer.ParanOid wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:26 Boucot wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:24 shid0x wrote:
Why on earth would you send dayshi first ?
I...i'm just a player and a lambda TL poster but i find this a pretty bad decision.
Dayshi is typically the player you DONT wanna align first,especially after studying a bit how quantic behave in these teamleagues.

Man who decide what player to send if you read me you...you just make no sense...

It totally makes sense. With a 5-0 win, Millenium would have been officially qualified. Sending your strongest player first is the best way to make an all-kill.



They wouldnt have been qualified if they went 5-0, but that would greatly help them. Hypotherically they could still lose 0-5 to Axiom in the other encounter(assuming it hasnt been played yet and you dont know the scores).

Yes but they would be at +14, just like Acer. And Millenium beat Acer twice so they would be ahead of Acer.


Still there could be a three or even four way tie, with TL and Axiom. The other thing would be that admins are not sure whats the deciding factor of who comes ahead(at least thats what I heard, maybe its been decided by now).
publicenemy~
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
July 29 2013 13:35 GMT
#29
Venus or VINES, there can only be one penis-guy.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
July 29 2013 13:36 GMT
#30
That was a VERY wierd move by Venus. Why didn't he warm-in/FE the ramp?
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 29 2013 13:37 GMT
#31
On July 29 2013 22:33 shid0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 22:26 Boucot wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:24 shid0x wrote:
Why on earth would you send dayshi first ?
I...i'm just a player and a lambda TL poster but i find this a pretty bad decision.
Dayshi is typically the player you DONT wanna align first,especially after studying a bit how quantic behave in these teamleagues.

Man who decide what player to send if you read me you...you just make no sense...

It totally makes sense. With a 5-0 win, Millenium would have been officially qualified. Sending your strongest player first is the best way to make an all-kill.


well if you think that way you certainly wouldn't make a good team manager in my opinion.
Dayshi is horrible against protoss and by horrible i mean really,really bad.

Quantic since they are out of ATC and even a bit before always used a protoss first,be it venus,hs,TREME...
And since they are now definitevely out its only normal that they would send their ''new'' players to the test bench ( TREME and venus ).

You now had a 60-70 % chance that quantic would have send a protoss,if you are the millenium manager you don't want to send dayshi,you just don't want it.


The best choice would have been feast if he was in shape otherwise goswer who is ok against all races.


Sounds reasonable. I guess the choice was map related and that he felt confident playing on it.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 29 2013 13:39 GMT
#32
On July 29 2013 22:35 Acer.ParanOid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 22:33 Boucot wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:32 Acer.ParanOid wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:26 Boucot wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:24 shid0x wrote:
Why on earth would you send dayshi first ?
I...i'm just a player and a lambda TL poster but i find this a pretty bad decision.
Dayshi is typically the player you DONT wanna align first,especially after studying a bit how quantic behave in these teamleagues.

Man who decide what player to send if you read me you...you just make no sense...

It totally makes sense. With a 5-0 win, Millenium would have been officially qualified. Sending your strongest player first is the best way to make an all-kill.



They wouldnt have been qualified if they went 5-0, but that would greatly help them. Hypotherically they could still lose 0-5 to Axiom in the other encounter(assuming it hasnt been played yet and you dont know the scores).

Yes but they would be at +14, just like Acer. And Millenium beat Acer twice so they would be ahead of Acer.


Still there could be a three or even four way tie, with TL and Axiom. The other thing would be that admins are not sure whats the deciding factor of who comes ahead(at least thats what I heard, maybe its been decided by now).

It would be good to decide before the tournament. :x
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Acer.ParanOid
Profile Joined June 2007
Poland133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 13:44:21
July 29 2013 13:43 GMT
#33
On July 29 2013 22:39 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 22:35 Acer.ParanOid wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:33 Boucot wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:32 Acer.ParanOid wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:26 Boucot wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:24 shid0x wrote:
Why on earth would you send dayshi first ?
I...i'm just a player and a lambda TL poster but i find this a pretty bad decision.
Dayshi is typically the player you DONT wanna align first,especially after studying a bit how quantic behave in these teamleagues.

Man who decide what player to send if you read me you...you just make no sense...

It totally makes sense. With a 5-0 win, Millenium would have been officially qualified. Sending your strongest player first is the best way to make an all-kill.



They wouldnt have been qualified if they went 5-0, but that would greatly help them. Hypotherically they could still lose 0-5 to Axiom in the other encounter(assuming it hasnt been played yet and you dont know the scores).

Yes but they would be at +14, just like Acer. And Millenium beat Acer twice so they would be ahead of Acer.


Still there could be a three or even four way tie, with TL and Axiom. The other thing would be that admins are not sure whats the deciding factor of who comes ahead(at least thats what I heard, maybe its been decided by now).

It would be good to decide before the tournament. :x


Maybe I put it wrong way, the admin didnt want to state anything before consulting it with the head admin. Im pretty sure the rules have been decided once the league was settled.
publicenemy~
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
July 29 2013 13:45 GMT
#34
On July 29 2013 22:43 Acer.ParanOid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 22:39 Boucot wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:35 Acer.ParanOid wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:33 Boucot wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:32 Acer.ParanOid wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:26 Boucot wrote:
On July 29 2013 22:24 shid0x wrote:
Why on earth would you send dayshi first ?
I...i'm just a player and a lambda TL poster but i find this a pretty bad decision.
Dayshi is typically the player you DONT wanna align first,especially after studying a bit how quantic behave in these teamleagues.

Man who decide what player to send if you read me you...you just make no sense...

It totally makes sense. With a 5-0 win, Millenium would have been officially qualified. Sending your strongest player first is the best way to make an all-kill.



They wouldnt have been qualified if they went 5-0, but that would greatly help them. Hypotherically they could still lose 0-5 to Axiom in the other encounter(assuming it hasnt been played yet and you dont know the scores).

Yes but they would be at +14, just like Acer. And Millenium beat Acer twice so they would be ahead of Acer.


Still there could be a three or even four way tie, with TL and Axiom. The other thing would be that admins are not sure whats the deciding factor of who comes ahead(at least thats what I heard, maybe its been decided by now).

It would be good to decide before the tournament. :x


Maybe I put it wrong way, the admin didnt want to state anything before consulting it with the head admin. Im pretty sure the rules have been decided once the league was settled.

Knowing Take's admins I would doubt that.
phil.ipp
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria1067 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 13:57:49
July 29 2013 13:56 GMT
#35
omg get out macgeolli ... that not your league

and gowser plays so bad, i cant watch it anymore
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
July 29 2013 13:59 GMT
#36
On July 29 2013 22:56 phil.ipp wrote:
omg get out macgeolli ... that not your league

and gowser plays so bad, i cant watch it anymore



Yeah, worst game of ATC. :/
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
phil.ipp
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria1067 Posts
July 29 2013 14:00 GMT
#37
omg what am i watching - thats like a diamond game
phil.ipp
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria1067 Posts
July 29 2013 14:03 GMT
#38
muhaha he builds ultras again not funny anymore
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 29 2013 14:04 GMT
#39
Facepalm
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
July 29 2013 14:04 GMT
#40
Poor Goswser, he played so well in the first 15 minutes.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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