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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 30 2013 04:38 GMT
#101
On July 30 2013 13:36 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 13:31 AgentW wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:30 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:24 AgentW wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Sleep has had great ZvZ for a long time. YuGiOh didn't have a chance.

??

       (1542) Trap  0-0  YongHwa (1689)    
-------------------------------------------
18.93% 2-0 0-2 31.92%
21.39% 2-1 1-2 27.77%
-------------------------------------------
40.31% 59.69%

Median outcome: Trap 1-2 YongHwa
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Yonghwa's always been a PvP monster, but I think this should be closer than the prediction indicates.

EDIT: Yonghwa's weakest matchup is PvP by a significant margin in HotS. Trap just seems to be lacking some data.


All his ZvZ games in HotS were solid and he was more than consistent back in WoL except towards the very end.

Fair enough, but if you look at the data, his ZvZ is pretty middling (though this could very well be simply because of a lack of sufficient data to make reasonable conclusion).


Lack of sufficient data and not taking into account the quality of the games. In this case his ZvZ stats are not inflated by playing inferior competition.

Forgot about inflated Aguliac by farming foreigners. Good point.

Missed the openings. Things seemed to have stabilized. Fast archons from Trap?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
July 30 2013 04:39 GMT
#102
I'm sorry to see the ex-Slayers teamkill, but I'm happy for Sleep. I thought Yugioh would take it, however.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 30 2013 04:40 GMT
#103
On July 30 2013 13:38 slowbacontron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 13:24 AgentW wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Sleep has had great ZvZ for a long time. YuGiOh didn't have a chance.

??

       (1542) Trap  0-0  YongHwa (1689)    
-------------------------------------------
18.93% 2-0 0-2 31.92%
21.39% 2-1 1-2 27.77%
-------------------------------------------
40.31% 59.69%

Median outcome: Trap 1-2 YongHwa
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Yonghwa's always been a PvP monster, but I think this should be closer than the prediction indicates.

EDIT: Yonghwa's weakest matchup is PvP by a significant margin in HotS. Trap just seems to be lacking some data.

Are you saying that a 60-40 prediction is not close? If I'm not mistaken, Aligulac labels all matches 55-45 or closer as virtually even.

It gives a verdict at the top of the page when you predict something. In this case it's
Verdict: Slight advantage for YongHwa.
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
July 30 2013 04:40 GMT
#104
Just tuned in and YugiOh lost :/ fuck.
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
July 30 2013 04:41 GMT
#105
On July 30 2013 13:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 13:38 slowbacontron wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:24 AgentW wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Sleep has had great ZvZ for a long time. YuGiOh didn't have a chance.

??

       (1542) Trap  0-0  YongHwa (1689)    
-------------------------------------------
18.93% 2-0 0-2 31.92%
21.39% 2-1 1-2 27.77%
-------------------------------------------
40.31% 59.69%

Median outcome: Trap 1-2 YongHwa
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Yonghwa's always been a PvP monster, but I think this should be closer than the prediction indicates.

EDIT: Yonghwa's weakest matchup is PvP by a significant margin in HotS. Trap just seems to be lacking some data.

Are you saying that a 60-40 prediction is not close? If I'm not mistaken, Aligulac labels all matches 55-45 or closer as virtually even.

It gives a verdict at the top of the page when you predict something. In this case it's
Show nested quote +
Verdict: Slight advantage for YongHwa.

All I'm saying is, things don't get very much closer than 60-40.
jjakji fan
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
July 30 2013 04:42 GMT
#106
Why not split DTS first then wait until all 3 are in mineral lines...??
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 30 2013 04:42 GMT
#107
ata boy Yonjwa!

1 more!
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 30 2013 04:42 GMT
#108
On July 30 2013 13:41 slowbacontron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 13:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:38 slowbacontron wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:24 AgentW wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Sleep has had great ZvZ for a long time. YuGiOh didn't have a chance.

??

       (1542) Trap  0-0  YongHwa (1689)    
-------------------------------------------
18.93% 2-0 0-2 31.92%
21.39% 2-1 1-2 27.77%
-------------------------------------------
40.31% 59.69%

Median outcome: Trap 1-2 YongHwa
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Yonghwa's always been a PvP monster, but I think this should be closer than the prediction indicates.

EDIT: Yonghwa's weakest matchup is PvP by a significant margin in HotS. Trap just seems to be lacking some data.

Are you saying that a 60-40 prediction is not close? If I'm not mistaken, Aligulac labels all matches 55-45 or closer as virtually even.

It gives a verdict at the top of the page when you predict something. In this case it's
Verdict: Slight advantage for YongHwa.

All I'm saying is, things don't get very much closer than 60-40.

Yeah sorry I was adding on to what you said. I agree with you
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 30 2013 04:42 GMT
#109
gogo yonghwa!
Moderatorlickypiddy
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 30 2013 04:42 GMT
#110
On July 30 2013 13:41 slowbacontron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 13:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:38 slowbacontron wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:24 AgentW wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Sleep has had great ZvZ for a long time. YuGiOh didn't have a chance.

??

       (1542) Trap  0-0  YongHwa (1689)    
-------------------------------------------
18.93% 2-0 0-2 31.92%
21.39% 2-1 1-2 27.77%
-------------------------------------------
40.31% 59.69%

Median outcome: Trap 1-2 YongHwa
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Yonghwa's always been a PvP monster, but I think this should be closer than the prediction indicates.

EDIT: Yonghwa's weakest matchup is PvP by a significant margin in HotS. Trap just seems to be lacking some data.

Are you saying that a 60-40 prediction is not close? If I'm not mistaken, Aligulac labels all matches 55-45 or closer as virtually even.

It gives a verdict at the top of the page when you predict something. In this case it's
Verdict: Slight advantage for YongHwa.

All I'm saying is, things don't get very much closer than 60-40.

I was attempting to express that I'm expecting an extremely close and competitive series.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
July 30 2013 04:42 GMT
#111
Yongwha! Forcing trap to chase him across the map into win
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 30 2013 04:43 GMT
#112
Poll: Recommend YongHwa vs Trap Game 1?

★★★ - Good game (9)
 
64%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (4)
 
29%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
 
7%

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
 
0%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend YongHwa vs Trap Game 1?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what

AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 30 2013 04:43 GMT
#113
I feel like Yonghwa could have done more damage with the DTs, but I guess it didn't matter.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 30 2013 04:43 GMT
#114
brb lunch
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
July 30 2013 04:43 GMT
#115
Gogo Yonghwa. So long as you aren't cannon rushing my favorite zergs I'll support you!
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
July 30 2013 04:44 GMT
#116
dang it
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 30 2013 04:44 GMT
#117
Well played by YongHwa.
Moderatorlickypiddy
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
July 30 2013 04:44 GMT
#118
On July 30 2013 13:42 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 13:41 slowbacontron wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:38 slowbacontron wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:24 AgentW wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Sleep has had great ZvZ for a long time. YuGiOh didn't have a chance.

??

       (1542) Trap  0-0  YongHwa (1689)    
-------------------------------------------
18.93% 2-0 0-2 31.92%
21.39% 2-1 1-2 27.77%
-------------------------------------------
40.31% 59.69%

Median outcome: Trap 1-2 YongHwa
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Yonghwa's always been a PvP monster, but I think this should be closer than the prediction indicates.

EDIT: Yonghwa's weakest matchup is PvP by a significant margin in HotS. Trap just seems to be lacking some data.

Are you saying that a 60-40 prediction is not close? If I'm not mistaken, Aligulac labels all matches 55-45 or closer as virtually even.

It gives a verdict at the top of the page when you predict something. In this case it's
Verdict: Slight advantage for YongHwa.

All I'm saying is, things don't get very much closer than 60-40.

I was attempting to express that I'm expecting an extremely close and competitive series.

You know what, I think we're all agreeing with each other here. I shouldn't have brought anything up in the first place
jjakji fan
KillerDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States498 Posts
July 30 2013 04:45 GMT
#119
On July 30 2013 13:42 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 13:41 slowbacontron wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:38 slowbacontron wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:24 AgentW wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Sleep has had great ZvZ for a long time. YuGiOh didn't have a chance.

??

       (1542) Trap  0-0  YongHwa (1689)    
-------------------------------------------
18.93% 2-0 0-2 31.92%
21.39% 2-1 1-2 27.77%
-------------------------------------------
40.31% 59.69%

Median outcome: Trap 1-2 YongHwa
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Yonghwa's always been a PvP monster, but I think this should be closer than the prediction indicates.

EDIT: Yonghwa's weakest matchup is PvP by a significant margin in HotS. Trap just seems to be lacking some data.

Are you saying that a 60-40 prediction is not close? If I'm not mistaken, Aligulac labels all matches 55-45 or closer as virtually even.

It gives a verdict at the top of the page when you predict something. In this case it's
Verdict: Slight advantage for YongHwa.

All I'm saying is, things don't get very much closer than 60-40.

I was attempting to express that I'm expecting an extremely close and competitive series.


In the future, instead of saying "closer than the prediction", people must say "Instead of a 60% chance to win I estimate a 56% chance, +/- 3.56% with 95% confidence"

:D
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 04:46:10
July 30 2013 04:45 GMT
#120
Either Yongwha or Trap was ready to TvP instead of PvP

EDIT: For those only reading, game delayed to be remade quickly because one of them spawned as terran.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
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