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[OSL] RO8 Day 1 WCS Korea Season 2 2013 - Page 77

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DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 11:48:01
July 23 2013 11:47 GMT
#1521
On July 23 2013 20:46 NarutO wrote:
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On July 23 2013 20:45 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.


Are we forgetting Maru?


Maru is nowhere near the level of the players named above and Symbol played piss-poorly sorry to say

No love for third-rate terrans

+ Show Spoiler +
Like Bomber.

Yes, I'm gonna go and call Bomber third-rate Terran like Artosis does. Just to prove the point.

And yes, I love Bomber.
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
July 23 2013 11:47 GMT
#1522
The same people that are complaining about widow mines are the same that didn't say a thing when Terran could be obliterated with mass speedlings at wings of liberty. Btw, I'm a toss player, and that's how I see it.
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
July 23 2013 11:47 GMT
#1523
On July 23 2013 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.


It's got nothing to do with balance whine. It's more a reverse argument to people like you and Dwf constantly arguing about how weak terran is. There's always one or two terrans who "just happen to be the best player in the world" and dominate everything.

I'll start taking these statistics seriously when protoss beats terran in a BoX at the highest level.



I gotta agree. The amount of balance whining from terrans in most tvp's lately is just ptoo damn high.

IMO Balance is fine nowadays, Innovation just deserves to be punished more often for that opening.
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
July 23 2013 11:47 GMT
#1524
Calling it : Maru vs bomber WCS KR finals
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Xaeldaren
Profile Joined June 2010
Ireland588 Posts
July 23 2013 11:48 GMT
#1525
What is this song? It's awesome.
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
July 23 2013 11:48 GMT
#1526
On July 23 2013 20:45 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:44 Chr15t wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.


:O he did /s


I speak english, not shortcut sorry

Well i can certainly understand the confusion ;D sarcasm is a bitch ^^
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
July 23 2013 11:48 GMT
#1527
On July 23 2013 20:31 boxerfred wrote:
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On July 23 2013 20:31 NovaMB wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:30 boxerfred wrote:
wow, I got banned on the gomtv stream for basically saying that the sk vs. inno matches are "pure skill vs pure skill, stop balance whining".

shame on those mods


I'd say its your own fault trying to reason with twitch chat.


+1 on that.

lol you could get a warning from TL mods for that comment
TheFlexN
Profile Joined March 2012
Israel472 Posts
July 23 2013 11:48 GMT
#1528
On July 23 2013 20:47 govie wrote:
Calling it : Maru vs bomber WCS KR finals

And innovation will win WCS S2 finals
An Esports fan, playing SC2 and LoL because they are fun. Huge fan of mapmaking, Cloud Kingdom = best map ever made EVER.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 11:50:30
July 23 2013 11:48 GMT
#1529
On July 23 2013 20:46 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.


It's got nothing to do with balance whine. It's more a reverse argument to people like you and Dwf constantly arguing about how weak terran is. There's always one or two terrans who "just happen to be the best player in the world" and dominate everything.

I'll start taking these statistics seriously when protoss beats terran in a BoX at the highest level.


Ok, so OSL in 2 days?


Maybe, who knows. Fact is, Innovation 4-0d sOs in the last "highest level BoX series" at the WCS Finals. Wasn't sOs supposed to be the best protoss or something? I did hear people calling him that. The whine about terran being carried by a few players is silly. Protoss gets carried by a bunch of people who rule the "middle ground" of leagues like PL and individual leagues but get dominated by the best terrans. So what exactly is worse?
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 23 2013 11:48 GMT
#1530
On July 23 2013 20:47 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:46 Swisslink wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.


Statistically inferior?
There were 8 Terrans in the Ro32, 7 in the Ro16 and 4 in the Ro8. It's statistically impossible that they are inferior, when almost no Terran drops out of the tournament if it's not a pure TvT group (4 terrans dropped out so far, 2 of them in a TvT group)


Statistically inferior is more than number X in tournament X. You can check winrates for june... and I doubt it will change much for july-_-

Aligulac shows terrans are doing obscenely well in proleague and osl lol.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 23 2013 11:48 GMT
#1531
On July 23 2013 20:46 jackdaleaper wrote:
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On July 23 2013 20:44 Douillos wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:42 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:37 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 robson1 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 bo1b wrote:
I actually think it's pretty cool innovation can use the same build every tvz. It's nice that there is a standard macro build which isn't too greedy or aggressive, and which makes you win or lose based on mechanics.


3 cc 26 supply into double upgrades. Not to greedy.

No it's not. Deal with it.

haha oh lord

Yeah, indeed... I don't know if they are trolling us or they actually believe that.

Or we understand something that you don't?



If 3 CC into double Ebay is un-punishable, admit that something is wrong with the game.

But that isn't true, and we will seeit in the next few games


I think it is punishable, just not with 1-1 mass roach, or maybe not on such a big map.


I think Soulkey is scared to go Bane-Bust or Roach-Bane because Innovation used the CC first into Reactor Hellion into quick 2 additional Raxes (instead of 3rd CC) in a bunch of recent games. And that opening mostly wins against those all-ins. Or maybe he is just confident in his macro-play because he can easily beat every other Terran with it
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 23 2013 11:48 GMT
#1532
Is it throwing time again for INnoVation ?
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 23 2013 11:49 GMT
#1533
--- Nuked ---
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
July 23 2013 11:49 GMT
#1534
On July 23 2013 20:48 Nirel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:31 boxerfred wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:31 NovaMB wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:30 boxerfred wrote:
wow, I got banned on the gomtv stream for basically saying that the sk vs. inno matches are "pure skill vs pure skill, stop balance whining".

shame on those mods


I'd say its your own fault trying to reason with twitch chat.


+1 on that.

lol you could get a warning from TL mods for that comment

For the +1 or the stomp on twitch chat mods?
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
TheFlexN
Profile Joined March 2012
Israel472 Posts
July 23 2013 11:49 GMT
#1535
On July 23 2013 20:48 Nirel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:31 boxerfred wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:31 NovaMB wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:30 boxerfred wrote:
wow, I got banned on the gomtv stream for basically saying that the sk vs. inno matches are "pure skill vs pure skill, stop balance whining".

shame on those mods


I'd say its your own fault trying to reason with twitch chat.


+1 on that.

lol you could get a warning from TL mods for that comment

HA!
An Esports fan, playing SC2 and LoL because they are fun. Huge fan of mapmaking, Cloud Kingdom = best map ever made EVER.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
July 23 2013 11:49 GMT
#1536
On July 23 2013 20:47 govie wrote:
Calling it : Maru vs bomber WCS KR finals

Imagine Byun sitting in the studio, wearing the Darth Vader's mask.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
July 23 2013 11:49 GMT
#1537
On July 23 2013 20:46 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:45 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.


Are we forgetting Maru?


Maru is nowhere near the level of the players named above and Symbol played piss-poorly sorry to say


Bullshit, Symbol played as well as he's BEEN playing to make it this far.

Maru just played better, a whole lot better.

His control was on par with what Innovation is doing, his Macro isn't up that level but he's by no means worth ignoring.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 23 2013 11:49 GMT
#1538
Two of the best players in the world are playing a best of 5, and the live report devolves into balance whine. Come on TL, this isn't reddit ^^
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
July 23 2013 11:49 GMT
#1539
3-2?
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 23 2013 11:49 GMT
#1540
On July 23 2013 20:48 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:47 NarutO wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:46 Swisslink wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.


Statistically inferior?
There were 8 Terrans in the Ro32, 7 in the Ro16 and 4 in the Ro8. It's statistically impossible that they are inferior, when almost no Terran drops out of the tournament if it's not a pure TvT group (4 terrans dropped out so far, 2 of them in a TvT group)


Statistically inferior is more than number X in tournament X. You can check winrates for june... and I doubt it will change much for july-_-

Aligulac shows terrans are doing obscenely well in proleague and osl lol.


Now take a deeper look into who gets most wins for Terran. Especially in TvZ, Flash is on a 10-win-streak and the highest INnovatioN streak is 11. I think nearly 50% of Terrans victories are based off of these two.
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