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On July 23 2013 20:46 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 20:45 Vindicare605 wrote:On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated. Are we forgetting Maru? Maru is nowhere near the level of the players named above and Symbol played piss-poorly sorry to say 
No love for third-rate terrans
+ Show Spoiler +Like Bomber.
Yes, I'm gonna go and call Bomber third-rate Terran like Artosis does. Just to prove the point.
And yes, I love Bomber.
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The same people that are complaining about widow mines are the same that didn't say a thing when Terran could be obliterated with mass speedlings at wings of liberty. Btw, I'm a toss player, and that's how I see it.
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On July 23 2013 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated. It's got nothing to do with balance whine. It's more a reverse argument to people like you and Dwf constantly arguing about how weak terran is. There's always one or two terrans who "just happen to be the best player in the world" and dominate everything. I'll start taking these statistics seriously when protoss beats terran in a BoX at the highest level.
I gotta agree. The amount of balance whining from terrans in most tvp's lately is just ptoo damn high.
IMO Balance is fine nowadays, Innovation just deserves to be punished more often for that opening.
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Calling it : Maru vs bomber WCS KR finals
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What is this song? It's awesome.
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On July 23 2013 20:45 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 20:44 Chr15t wrote:On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated. :O he did /s I speak english, not shortcut sorry
Well i can certainly understand the confusion ;D sarcasm is a bitch ^^
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On July 23 2013 20:31 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 20:31 NovaMB wrote:On July 23 2013 20:30 boxerfred wrote:
wow, I got banned on the gomtv stream for basically saying that the sk vs. inno matches are "pure skill vs pure skill, stop balance whining".
shame on those mods I'd say its your own fault trying to reason with twitch chat. +1 on that.
lol you could get a warning from TL mods for that comment
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On July 23 2013 20:47 govie wrote:Calling it : Maru vs bomber WCS KR finals
And innovation will win WCS S2 finals 
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On July 23 2013 20:46 Rhaegal wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated. It's got nothing to do with balance whine. It's more a reverse argument to people like you and Dwf constantly arguing about how weak terran is. There's always one or two terrans who "just happen to be the best player in the world" and dominate everything. I'll start taking these statistics seriously when protoss beats terran in a BoX at the highest level. Ok, so OSL in 2 days?
Maybe, who knows. Fact is, Innovation 4-0d sOs in the last "highest level BoX series" at the WCS Finals. Wasn't sOs supposed to be the best protoss or something? I did hear people calling him that. The whine about terran being carried by a few players is silly. Protoss gets carried by a bunch of people who rule the "middle ground" of leagues like PL and individual leagues but get dominated by the best terrans. So what exactly is worse?
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On July 23 2013 20:47 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 20:46 Swisslink wrote:On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated. Statistically inferior? There were 8 Terrans in the Ro32, 7 in the Ro16 and 4 in the Ro8. It's statistically impossible that they are inferior, when almost no Terran drops out of the tournament if it's not a pure TvT group (4 terrans dropped out so far, 2 of them in a TvT group) Statistically inferior is more than number X in tournament X. You can check winrates for june... and I doubt it will change much for july-_-
Aligulac shows terrans are doing obscenely well in proleague and osl lol.
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On July 23 2013 20:46 jackdaleaper wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 20:44 Douillos wrote:On July 23 2013 20:42 TheDwf wrote:On July 23 2013 20:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:On July 23 2013 20:40 Emzeeshady wrote:On July 23 2013 20:37 TheDwf wrote:On July 23 2013 20:36 robson1 wrote:On July 23 2013 20:36 bo1b wrote:
I actually think it's pretty cool innovation can use the same build every tvz. It's nice that there is a standard macro build which isn't too greedy or aggressive, and which makes you win or lose based on mechanics. 3 cc 26 supply into double upgrades. Not to greedy. No it's not. Deal with it. haha oh lord Yeah, indeed... I don't know if they are trolling us or they actually believe that. Or we understand something that you don't? If 3 CC into double Ebay is un-punishable, admit that something is wrong with the game. But that isn't true, and we will seeit in the next few games I think it is punishable, just not with 1-1 mass roach, or maybe not on such a big map.
I think Soulkey is scared to go Bane-Bust or Roach-Bane because Innovation used the CC first into Reactor Hellion into quick 2 additional Raxes (instead of 3rd CC) in a bunch of recent games. And that opening mostly wins against those all-ins. Or maybe he is just confident in his macro-play because he can easily beat every other Terran with it
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Is it throwing time again for INnoVation ?
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On July 23 2013 20:48 Nirel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 20:31 boxerfred wrote:On July 23 2013 20:31 NovaMB wrote:On July 23 2013 20:30 boxerfred wrote:
wow, I got banned on the gomtv stream for basically saying that the sk vs. inno matches are "pure skill vs pure skill, stop balance whining".
shame on those mods I'd say its your own fault trying to reason with twitch chat. +1 on that. lol you could get a warning from TL mods for that comment
For the +1 or the stomp on twitch chat mods?
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On July 23 2013 20:48 Nirel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 20:31 boxerfred wrote:On July 23 2013 20:31 NovaMB wrote:On July 23 2013 20:30 boxerfred wrote:
wow, I got banned on the gomtv stream for basically saying that the sk vs. inno matches are "pure skill vs pure skill, stop balance whining".
shame on those mods I'd say its your own fault trying to reason with twitch chat. +1 on that. lol you could get a warning from TL mods for that comment
HA!
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On July 23 2013 20:47 govie wrote:Calling it : Maru vs bomber WCS KR finals
Imagine Byun sitting in the studio, wearing the Darth Vader's mask.
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On July 23 2013 20:46 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 20:45 Vindicare605 wrote:On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated. Are we forgetting Maru? Maru is nowhere near the level of the players named above and Symbol played piss-poorly sorry to say
Bullshit, Symbol played as well as he's BEEN playing to make it this far.
Maru just played better, a whole lot better.
His control was on par with what Innovation is doing, his Macro isn't up that level but he's by no means worth ignoring.
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Two of the best players in the world are playing a best of 5, and the live report devolves into balance whine. Come on TL, this isn't reddit ^^
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On July 23 2013 20:48 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 20:47 NarutO wrote:On July 23 2013 20:46 Swisslink wrote:On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated. Statistically inferior? There were 8 Terrans in the Ro32, 7 in the Ro16 and 4 in the Ro8. It's statistically impossible that they are inferior, when almost no Terran drops out of the tournament if it's not a pure TvT group (4 terrans dropped out so far, 2 of them in a TvT group) Statistically inferior is more than number X in tournament X. You can check winrates for june... and I doubt it will change much for july-_- Aligulac shows terrans are doing obscenely well in proleague and osl lol.
Now take a deeper look into who gets most wins for Terran. Especially in TvZ, Flash is on a 10-win-streak and the highest INnovatioN streak is 11. I think nearly 50% of Terrans victories are based off of these two.
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