• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:39
CEST 04:39
KST 11:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High15
Community News
PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition215.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)94$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 151Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada11Weekly Cups (Sept 22-28): MaxPax double, Zerg wins, PTR12
StarCraft 2
General
PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition 5.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version) ZvT - Army Composition - Slow Lings + Fast Banes Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada Had to smile :)
Tourneys
Stellar Fest $2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 15 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LANified! 37: Groundswell, BYOC LAN, Nov 28-30 2025 Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On BarrackS' ASL S20 Ro.8 Review&Power of Friendship Question regarding recent ASL Bisu vs Larva game BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Thoughts on rarely used units
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro8 Day 4 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art Current Meta I am doing this better than progamers do. Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts The Automated Ban List BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final
Blogs
[AI] From Comfort Women to …
Peanutsc
Mental Health In Esports: Wo…
TrAiDoS
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1243 users

[OSL] RO8 Day 1 WCS Korea Season 2 2013 - Page 75

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 73 74 75 76 77 107 Next
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 11:45:04
July 23 2013 11:44 GMT
#1481
On July 23 2013 20:44 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:42 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:37 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 robson1 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 bo1b wrote:
I actually think it's pretty cool innovation can use the same build every tvz. It's nice that there is a standard macro build which isn't too greedy or aggressive, and which makes you win or lose based on mechanics.


3 cc 26 supply into double upgrades. Not to greedy.

No it's not. Deal with it.

haha oh lord

Yeah, indeed... I don't know if they are trolling us or they actually believe that.

Or we understand something that you don't?



If 3 CC into double Ebay is un-punishable, admit that something is wrong with the game.

But, it is.

Edit: punishable.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
July 23 2013 11:44 GMT
#1482
The Bomber boy
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
July 23 2013 11:44 GMT
#1483
32k viewers.
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
July 23 2013 11:44 GMT
#1484
On July 23 2013 20:43 Chr15t wrote:
Coach to Bogus: So do you want peberonni or pork on your pizza.

Pepperoni?
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
July 23 2013 11:45 GMT
#1485
On July 23 2013 20:44 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:42 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s

Said no one?


Honestly I think Terran players have a love/hate relationship with how good the top pros are.

On the one hand it's awesome to watch, but on the other it's frustrating knowing that the game is balanced around what THEY are able to do.

Go ahead and try macro/microing like Innovation with Bio/Mine vs Zerg on ladder. It's so hard lol.


bingo.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 23 2013 11:45 GMT
#1486
On July 23 2013 20:44 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:42 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:37 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 robson1 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 bo1b wrote:
I actually think it's pretty cool innovation can use the same build every tvz. It's nice that there is a standard macro build which isn't too greedy or aggressive, and which makes you win or lose based on mechanics.


3 cc 26 supply into double upgrades. Not to greedy.

No it's not. Deal with it.

haha oh lord

Yeah, indeed... I don't know if they are trolling us or they actually believe that.

Or we understand something that you don't?



If 3 CC into double Ebay is un-punishable, admit that something is wrong with the game.


3 Hatch into 2 Evo is unpunishable though
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 23 2013 11:45 GMT
#1487
On July 23 2013 20:42 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:37 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 robson1 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 bo1b wrote:
I actually think it's pretty cool innovation can use the same build every tvz. It's nice that there is a standard macro build which isn't too greedy or aggressive, and which makes you win or lose based on mechanics.


3 cc 26 supply into double upgrades. Not to greedy.

No it's not. Deal with it.

haha oh lord

Yeah, indeed... I don't know if they are trolling us or they actually believe that.

Or we understand something that you don't?

A lot of geniuses got laughed out when they first told people what they thought. So did a lot of people that were actually just wrong though...
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16090 Posts
July 23 2013 11:45 GMT
#1488
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.


Are we forgetting Maru?
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
July 23 2013 11:45 GMT
#1489
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.


It's got nothing to do with balance whine. It's more a reverse argument to people like you and Dwf constantly arguing about how weak terran is. There's always one or two terrans who "just happen to be the best player in the world" and dominate everything.

I'll start taking these statistics seriously when protoss beats terran in a BoX at the highest level.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
TsGBruzze
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Sweden1190 Posts
July 23 2013 11:45 GMT
#1490
damn inno just crushes :O he is a fucking alien -.-'
''you got to yolo things up to win''
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 23 2013 11:45 GMT
#1491
On July 23 2013 20:44 Chr15t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.


:O he did /s


I speak english, not shortcut sorry
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 23 2013 11:45 GMT
#1492
wait, Maru won? :O Is Innovation up 2-0 as well? It says 0-2 on stream?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
July 23 2013 11:45 GMT
#1493
Anyone know of a music thread for this season's OSL? I'm looking for a song in english (pop) with female lead singer that was played in the first half of the season (2).
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 23 2013 11:45 GMT
#1494
On July 23 2013 20:43 Markwerf wrote:
I don't understand why zerg get hive so late. The standard ZvT I see zerg is doing quite well building up muta's nicely etc. but then 2-2 finishes and they are stuck at lair for a moment while terran continues to 3-3 and that point the MMMM pushes start to demolish zerg. Zerg can hold them off but loses (much) more than terran every time and just bleeds to death it seems.

Why don't these topzergs just get infestation pit + hive a bit earlier to start 3-3 on time? Last big fights happened just before 3-3 from zerg as well and he just got demolished again. I know teching to hive is a rather lengthy and costly investment that doesn't pay off that quickly. It's strange though, zergs tend to go hive and then immediately go for ultra's, 3-3 and adrenal glands at the same time, that seems to leave such a big window where you just die if attacked. Wouldn't it just be much smoother to get infestation pit and hive a bit earlier, go some infestors, then 3-3 and then adrenal glands and ultra's. Infestors seem to be so important just to prevent all the kiting in these big engagements

It's a lot of gas which most zergs just can't get when they're on 3-4 bases. The beauty of the 4m style is it absolutely forces the zerg to constantly make mutas and banelings.
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
July 23 2013 11:45 GMT
#1495
On July 23 2013 20:42 Yonnua wrote:
>Zerg dominating individual leagues, Protoss dominating proleague
>Blizzard nerfs Terran
>Terran starts dominating everything. :D

>4chan
Sc2 always got your back
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
July 23 2013 11:46 GMT
#1496
On July 23 2013 20:44 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:42 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s

Said no one?


Honestly I think Terran players have a love/hate relationship with how good the top pros are.

On the one hand it's awesome to watch, but on the other it's frustrating knowing that the game is balanced around what THEY are able to do.

Go ahead and try macro/microing like Innovation with Bio/Mine vs Zerg on ladder. It's so hard lol.

It's not easy but since HotS came out I no longer feel like I just can't win against Zerg anymore because infestors aren't constantly ruining my life.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
July 23 2013 11:46 GMT
#1497
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.


Statistically inferior?
There were 8 Terrans in the Ro32, 7 in the Ro16 and 4 in the Ro8. It's statistically impossible that they are inferior, when almost no Terran drops out of the tournament if it's not a pure TvT group (4 terrans dropped out so far, 2 of them in a TvT group)
jackdaleaper
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines1216 Posts
July 23 2013 11:46 GMT
#1498
On July 23 2013 20:44 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:42 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:37 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 robson1 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 bo1b wrote:
I actually think it's pretty cool innovation can use the same build every tvz. It's nice that there is a standard macro build which isn't too greedy or aggressive, and which makes you win or lose based on mechanics.


3 cc 26 supply into double upgrades. Not to greedy.

No it's not. Deal with it.

haha oh lord

Yeah, indeed... I don't know if they are trolling us or they actually believe that.

Or we understand something that you don't?



If 3 CC into double Ebay is un-punishable, admit that something is wrong with the game.

But that isn't true, and we will seeit in the next few games


I think it is punishable, just not with 1-1 mass roach, or maybe not on such a big map.
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
July 23 2013 11:46 GMT
#1499
Moar kpop P
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
July 23 2013 11:46 GMT
#1500
Proxy rax incoming from innovation now
Prev 1 73 74 75 76 77 107 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 21m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 200
WinterStarcraft198
SpeCial 121
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 4602
ggaemo 102
sorry 91
Noble 19
Icarus 6
Dota 2
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1071
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0495
AZ_Axe223
Mew2King60
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor167
Other Games
summit1g9362
JimRising 595
ViBE144
XaKoH 122
UpATreeSC84
JuggernautJason11
Nina3
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick706
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• OhrlRock 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler59
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
7h 21m
BSL Team Wars
16h 21m
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
Dewalt vs kogeT
JDConan vs Tarson
RaNgeD vs DragOn
StRyKeR vs Bonyth
Aeternum vs Hejek
IPSL
16h 21m
DragOn vs Fear
Radley vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
1d 7h
Map Test Tournament
2 days
Map Test Tournament
3 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Map Test Tournament
4 days
Map Test Tournament
5 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Map Test Tournament
6 days
OSC
6 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Safe House 2
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
Maestros of the Game
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Acropolis #4 - TS2
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
Frag Blocktober 2025
Urban Riga Open #1
FERJEE Rush 2025
Birch Cup 2025
DraculaN #2
LanDaLan #3
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
WardiTV TLMC #15
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.