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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 23 2013 11:46 GMT
#1501
On July 23 2013 20:45 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.


Are we forgetting Maru?


Maru is nowhere near the level of the players named above and Symbol played piss-poorly sorry to say
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
July 23 2013 11:46 GMT
#1502
On July 23 2013 20:45 Conut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:42 Yonnua wrote:
>Zerg dominating individual leagues, Protoss dominating proleague
>Blizzard nerfs Terran
>Terran starts dominating everything. :D

>4chan

>still no green text
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
July 23 2013 11:46 GMT
#1503
Poll: Will Soulkey allin from now on?

Yes! (11)
 
61%

Bogus (7)
 
39%

18 total votes

Your vote: Will Soulkey allin from now on?

(Vote): Yes!
(Vote): Bogus


liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
July 23 2013 11:46 GMT
#1504
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.


4 terrans in round of 8, one is Bogus...
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 11:46:53
July 23 2013 11:46 GMT
#1505
On July 23 2013 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.


It's got nothing to do with balance whine. It's more a reverse argument to people like you and Dwf constantly arguing about how weak terran is. There's always one or two terrans who "just happen to be the best player in the world" and dominate everything.

I'll start taking these statistics seriously when protoss beats terran in a BoX at the highest level.


Ok, so OSL in 2 days?
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
July 23 2013 11:46 GMT
#1506
On July 23 2013 20:44 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:42 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:37 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 robson1 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 bo1b wrote:
I actually think it's pretty cool innovation can use the same build every tvz. It's nice that there is a standard macro build which isn't too greedy or aggressive, and which makes you win or lose based on mechanics.


3 cc 26 supply into double upgrades. Not to greedy.

No it's not. Deal with it.

haha oh lord

Yeah, indeed... I don't know if they are trolling us or they actually believe that.

Or we understand something that you don't?



If 3 CC into double Ebay is un-punishable, admit that something is wrong with the game.

But that isn't true, and we will seeit in the next few games

I love it when I'm playing and I go 3 Nexus into double forge vs Terran before making a single Stalker. That would totally work, who needs to defend drop harass or 8 marines killing everything you have. Ignore dwf, he thinks Hellbats were balanced pre-nerf.
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
July 23 2013 11:46 GMT
#1507
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.

Haha yea terran so weak.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 23 2013 11:46 GMT
#1508
--- Nuked ---
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 11:47:13
July 23 2013 11:46 GMT
#1509
On July 23 2013 20:43 TheFlexN wrote:
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On July 23 2013 20:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Reverse 3-0 by Soulkey nao? :O

Oh god no, please no!


The SK reverse kill trait only activates after 3 losses sadly, so no worries. Rooting for Innovation because it will be a quiet unique TvT then.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 11:47:53
July 23 2013 11:46 GMT
#1510
On July 23 2013 20:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.


It's got nothing to do with balance whine. It's more a reverse argument to people like you and Dwf constantly arguing about how weak terran is. There's always one or two terrans who "just happen to be the best player in the world" and dominate everything.

I'll start taking these statistics seriously when protoss beats terran in a BoX at the highest level.

Terran is nerfed accordingly to the fact that these players exist. It's not their fault that they transcend regular terrans. It makes for extreme games for people on the breaking point to the next level, like Code A terrans.

edit: i missed a word.
The Bomber boy
Green_25
Profile Joined June 2013
Great Britain696 Posts
July 23 2013 11:47 GMT
#1511
My problem with bio mine is that its too cheap. I'd like mines to cost more gas
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 23 2013 11:47 GMT
#1512
On July 23 2013 20:46 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.


Statistically inferior?
There were 8 Terrans in the Ro32, 7 in the Ro16 and 4 in the Ro8. It's statistically impossible that they are inferior, when almost no Terran drops out of the tournament if it's not a pure TvT group (4 terrans dropped out so far, 2 of them in a TvT group)


Statistically inferior is more than number X in tournament X. You can check winrates for june... and I doubt it will change much for july-_-
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12704 Posts
July 23 2013 11:47 GMT
#1513
someday people are gonna say zerg going 4th hatch 2 evo is also not greedy lol
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
TheFlexN
Profile Joined March 2012
Israel472 Posts
July 23 2013 11:47 GMT
#1514
On July 23 2013 20:46 jackdaleaper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:44 Douillos wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:42 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:37 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 robson1 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 bo1b wrote:
I actually think it's pretty cool innovation can use the same build every tvz. It's nice that there is a standard macro build which isn't too greedy or aggressive, and which makes you win or lose based on mechanics.


3 cc 26 supply into double upgrades. Not to greedy.

No it's not. Deal with it.

haha oh lord

Yeah, indeed... I don't know if they are trolling us or they actually believe that.

Or we understand something that you don't?



If 3 CC into double Ebay is un-punishable, admit that something is wrong with the game.

But that isn't true, and we will seeit in the next few games


I think it is punishable, just not with 1-1 mass roach, or maybe not on such a big map.

baneling bust life style=gg watch MLG winter(?)
An Esports fan, playing SC2 and LoL because they are fun. Huge fan of mapmaking, Cloud Kingdom = best map ever made EVER.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 23 2013 11:47 GMT
#1515
On July 23 2013 20:46 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:45 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.


Are we forgetting Maru?


Maru is nowhere near the level of the players named above and Symbol played piss-poorly sorry to say

we'll see ;D
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Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
July 23 2013 11:47 GMT
#1516
On July 23 2013 20:44 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:42 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:37 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 robson1 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 bo1b wrote:
I actually think it's pretty cool innovation can use the same build every tvz. It's nice that there is a standard macro build which isn't too greedy or aggressive, and which makes you win or lose based on mechanics.


3 cc 26 supply into double upgrades. Not to greedy.

No it's not. Deal with it.

haha oh lord

Yeah, indeed... I don't know if they are trolling us or they actually believe that.

Or we understand something that you don't?



If 3 CC into double Ebay is un-punishable, admit that something is wrong with the game.


Well Soulkey also opened greedy with very fast 3rd. If he did some 2 base roach bane all in it would be way harder for Innovation to stop. As far as I remember from last season, Innovation lost a lot of TvZs to such all ins, even against weaker zergs.

You could also say that something would be wrong if zerg could straight up kill the terran when both of them open for fast 3rd base.

That timing was too weak because it was a middle of the road build and it put him behind.
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
July 23 2013 11:47 GMT
#1517
On July 23 2013 20:46 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:45 Conut wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:42 Yonnua wrote:
>Zerg dominating individual leagues, Protoss dominating proleague
>Blizzard nerfs Terran
>Terran starts dominating everything. :D

>4chan

>still no green text

i was going to keep going but then i was like, WHATS THE POINT
Sc2 always got your back
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
July 23 2013 11:47 GMT
#1518
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.

What does statistically inferior mean?
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 23 2013 11:47 GMT
#1519
On July 23 2013 20:44 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:42 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:37 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 robson1 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 bo1b wrote:
I actually think it's pretty cool innovation can use the same build every tvz. It's nice that there is a standard macro build which isn't too greedy or aggressive, and which makes you win or lose based on mechanics.


3 cc 26 supply into double upgrades. Not to greedy.

No it's not. Deal with it.

haha oh lord

Yeah, indeed... I don't know if they are trolling us or they actually believe that.

Or we understand something that you don't?

3 cc double ups just straight up loses to a roach bane bust...

If that is not greedy then what is? 4 CC, double bio plus mech ups?

There is a big difference between making an early oc, and taking an early 3rd base.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
July 23 2013 11:47 GMT
#1520
On July 23 2013 20:46 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:44 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:42 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s

Said no one?


Honestly I think Terran players have a love/hate relationship with how good the top pros are.

On the one hand it's awesome to watch, but on the other it's frustrating knowing that the game is balanced around what THEY are able to do.

Go ahead and try macro/microing like Innovation with Bio/Mine vs Zerg on ladder. It's so hard lol.

It's not easy but since HotS came out I no longer feel like I just can't win against Zerg anymore because infestors aren't constantly ruining my life.


It's a different kind of frustration.

Instead of being frustrated AT Infestors, I'm frustrated with myself for not being good enough with my execution to pull off what my mind is planning.

Like wishing you were faster than you are and then being sad that you aren't.
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