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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 23 2013 11:42 GMT
#1461
On July 23 2013 20:41 opterown wrote:
Poll: Recommend Soulkey vs. INnoVation Game 2?

Yes (22)
 
41%

No (18)
 
33%

If you have the time (14)
 
26%

54 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs. INnoVation Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have the time


ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
July 23 2013 11:42 GMT
#1462
Poll: 2-0 lead INnoVation into 3-2 win for Soulkey?

Bogus (19)
 
61%

Yes! (12)
 
39%

31 total votes

Your vote: 2-0 lead INnoVation into 3-2 win for Soulkey?

(Vote): Yes!
(Vote): Bogus


Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 23 2013 11:42 GMT
#1463
On July 23 2013 20:38 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:35 Yello wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:33 Yello wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:30 Yello wrote:
[image loading] (Z)Soulkey vs. [image loading] (T)INnoVation
Game 2: Star Station


Soulkey spawns in the top left
Innovation spawns in the bottom right


0:00-4:00min
CC first on the low ground by Innovation
Hatch first for Soulkey

Rax and Gas for Innovation
3rd Hatch before Pool for Soulkey


4:00-8:00min
Factory and Reactor for Innovation, quick third CC on the way
Lair and double Evo-Chamber for Soulkey, Roach Warren as well

Double E-Bay for Innovation
additional Raxes on the way


8:00-10:00min
Hellions starts harassing the third of Soulkey and kill up to 8 Drones with good micro
+1 ranged and armor on the way for Soulkey, +1 attack and armor for Innovation

Starport on the way, more Raxes in production
Soulkey builds a lot of Roaches

10:00-12:00min
massive Roach timing with 1-1 upgrades incoming for Soulkey, Innovation scouts it very late
Soulkey attacks the third and Innovation is forced to pull all of his SCVs from the third

Innovation is able to hold off the timing but loses a lot of SCVs in the process
Soulkey tries to pressure some more with his Roaches but gets pushed back by Innovations growing Bio-force


12:00-14:00min 145 147
Spire and Baneling Nest on the way for Soulkey
also starting +2 armor and +1 melee and taking a 4th base

Innovation starts dropping the natural with 2 Meidvacs while moving out with his main army to the front

14:00-16:00min
Soulkey is able to defend against the drop and push back Inno's main force but loses a lot of units
Innovation keeps pushing and denying creep while dropping the 4th as well

16:00-18:00min 155 122
Innovation keeps reinforcing with massive amounts of units and Soulkey can't keep up with his production
Innovation takes another huge fight in the open but Soulkey has not enough Banelings to kill the bio units and Roaches are not enough either
Innovation pushes forward, drops the Manner Mule and Soulkey leaves the game

Innovation takes the 2-0 lead in the series!
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
July 23 2013 11:43 GMT
#1464
Coach to Bogus: So do you want peberonni or pork on your pizza.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
July 23 2013 11:43 GMT
#1465
On July 23 2013 20:42 Erraa93 wrote:
No emotion. Innovation is a robot


He needs an update that can simulate hum0rn behavior.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
TheFlexN
Profile Joined March 2012
Israel472 Posts
July 23 2013 11:43 GMT
#1466
On July 23 2013 20:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Reverse 3-0 by Soulkey nao? :O

Oh god no, please no!
An Esports fan, playing SC2 and LoL because they are fun. Huge fan of mapmaking, Cloud Kingdom = best map ever made EVER.
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
July 23 2013 11:43 GMT
#1467
I don't understand why zerg get hive so late. The standard ZvT I see zerg is doing quite well building up muta's nicely etc. but then 2-2 finishes and they are stuck at lair for a moment while terran continues to 3-3 and that point the MMMM pushes start to demolish zerg. Zerg can hold them off but loses (much) more than terran every time and just bleeds to death it seems.

Why don't these topzergs just get infestation pit + hive a bit earlier to start 3-3 on time? Last big fights happened just before 3-3 from zerg as well and he just got demolished again. I know teching to hive is a rather lengthy and costly investment that doesn't pay off that quickly. It's strange though, zergs tend to go hive and then immediately go for ultra's, 3-3 and adrenal glands at the same time, that seems to leave such a big window where you just die if attacked. Wouldn't it just be much smoother to get infestation pit and hive a bit earlier, go some infestors, then 3-3 and then adrenal glands and ultra's. Infestors seem to be so important just to prevent all the kiting in these big engagements
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 23 2013 11:43 GMT
#1468
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
July 23 2013 11:43 GMT
#1469
soulkey has still one solution : pray

i don't see how he can manage innovation
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 11:44:18
July 23 2013 11:43 GMT
#1470
On July 23 2013 20:41 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:41 Derez wrote:
Pretty poorly timed roach attack by soulkey.

Yeah, it seemed too weak.

You would imagine someone like soulkey playing that out a dozen of times and knowing what amount of units are out at that point.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
July 23 2013 11:43 GMT
#1471
On July 23 2013 20:42 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:37 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 robson1 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 bo1b wrote:
I actually think it's pretty cool innovation can use the same build every tvz. It's nice that there is a standard macro build which isn't too greedy or aggressive, and which makes you win or lose based on mechanics.


3 cc 26 supply into double upgrades. Not to greedy.

No it's not. Deal with it.

haha oh lord

Yeah, indeed... I don't know if they are trolling us or they actually believe that.

Or we understand something that you don't?

Or you don't have a clue?
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
jackdaleaper
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines1216 Posts
July 23 2013 11:43 GMT
#1472
Now Innovation will build tanks to stop any all in and complete the sweep.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 23 2013 11:44 GMT
#1473
On July 23 2013 20:43 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:42 Erraa93 wrote:
No emotion. Innovation is a robot


He needs an update that can simulate hum0rn behavior.


Dropped a mannermule! Thats Terran emotion.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16090 Posts
July 23 2013 11:44 GMT
#1474
On July 23 2013 20:42 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s

Said no one?


Honestly I think Terran players have a love/hate relationship with how good the top pros are.

On the one hand it's awesome to watch, but on the other it's frustrating knowing that the game is balanced around what THEY are able to do.

Go ahead and try macro/microing like Innovation with Bio/Mine vs Zerg on ladder. It's so hard lol.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 11:45:01
July 23 2013 11:44 GMT
#1475
On July 23 2013 20:42 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:37 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 robson1 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 bo1b wrote:
I actually think it's pretty cool innovation can use the same build every tvz. It's nice that there is a standard macro build which isn't too greedy or aggressive, and which makes you win or lose based on mechanics.


3 cc 26 supply into double upgrades. Not to greedy.

No it's not. Deal with it.

haha oh lord

Yeah, indeed... I don't know if they are trolling us or they actually believe that.

Or we understand something that you don't?



If 3 CC into double Ebay is un-punishable, admit that something is wrong with the game.

But that isn't true, and we will seeit in the next few games
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 23 2013 11:44 GMT
#1476
--- Nuked ---
SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
July 23 2013 11:44 GMT
#1477
I think the roach timing would have been fine, but Soukey did lose 8 drones to the hellions which he shouldn't have, and he was slightly supply blocked right after he spawned most of the roaches. I do wonder if those 2 things not occured, if his initial roach attack would have had more roaches, or at least enough roaches to do a bit more significant damage.
Julyzerg ftw
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 23 2013 11:44 GMT
#1478
On July 23 2013 20:43 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:42 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:40 Emzeeshady wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:37 TheDwf wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 robson1 wrote:
On July 23 2013 20:36 bo1b wrote:
I actually think it's pretty cool innovation can use the same build every tvz. It's nice that there is a standard macro build which isn't too greedy or aggressive, and which makes you win or lose based on mechanics.


3 cc 26 supply into double upgrades. Not to greedy.

No it's not. Deal with it.

haha oh lord

Yeah, indeed... I don't know if they are trolling us or they actually believe that.

Or we understand something that you don't?

Or you don't have a clue?

May I ask your level?
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
July 23 2013 11:44 GMT
#1479
On July 23 2013 20:43 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 20:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Terran seems pretty bad at the highest level
/s


Jesus give us a break. INnoVation _IS_ the best player in the world right now, especially in this match up. SoulKey went for a timing and it didn't work AT ALL. Jesus, stop balance whining when Terran is statistically inferior right now. If it wasn't for Flash and INnoVation Terran would get utterly dominated.


:O he did /s
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
July 23 2013 11:44 GMT
#1480
Now onto Baneling busting three times in a row.
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