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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 21 2013 09:26 GMT
#5001
It's noteworthy that this performance puits Hyun and JD 17th and 18th in WCS point rankings, almost solely on points based outside WCS. It would be quite fun (albeit unlikely) if the grand finals were won by someone who qualified without really doing anything in the regular WCS
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
NoNonsense
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia43 Posts
July 21 2013 10:03 GMT
#5002
On July 21 2013 15:19 VArsovskiSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 12:17 Diaresta wrote:
I saw that Jaedong beat StarDust, so I let out a scream of joy assuming Jaedong went on to win the tournament, only to see he lost in the finals, where I then let out a scream of agony, all in succession.

It kinda' went like this:

"YEEESSSSSUUuuuhhhFUUUCCCCKKKKK"

Grats to Hyun, though! Grats to Goswer too-- It seems like he got overshadowed.


Actually he'd have won it (maybe), if he wasn't the GREEDY player.. I mean we all know that triangle:

AGRESSIVE/CHEESE > GREED > STANDARD > CHEESE, but it was like 90% obvious that he should've played Standard there.. And EVEN after he did the Hatch-first --> 2 more Drones AND GAS before the Pool --> like really ?? What was he thinking that Hyun was doing all that time ?? - drinking Oil or sth ??, I mean come on - he played as if he was playing some scrub from the neighborhood right there.. He clearly underestimated Hyun there..

I was so damn mad.. I didn't even approve AT ALL his tears at the end, in fact he DESERVED them.. He played the series better, I agree, rooted for him like - all the time, but come on.. --> You really just don't do that in a deciding match.. :/

Makes me satisfied though that seems there to be a new Stephano after this one retires though.. I mean - Millenium has always been the awesomest player PRODUCING foreign organization, which they really should get more attention and be studied from..

But yah - was sooooooo damn mad as he should've been to himself instead of crying y know.. It was obvious that he'd not get away with a play like that >(

I mean - to be on the point though: HE DIDN'T GET OVERSHADOWED, HE KICKED OUT OF IT HIMSELF.. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, made me so mad.. >(, :/


Wood leaguers have no right to judge plays
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
July 21 2013 10:05 GMT
#5003
I'm heartbroken </3 I saw him beat stardust and had to leave. Came back to this :'(
Jaedong.
r1flEx
Profile Joined October 2012
Belgium256 Posts
July 21 2013 11:31 GMT
#5004
i'm surprised everything was played in 2 days. thought i would see the finals today
too bad jaedong couldn't go for the win again
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
July 21 2013 12:10 GMT
#5005
On July 21 2013 19:03 NoNonsense wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 15:19 VArsovskiSC wrote:
On July 21 2013 12:17 Diaresta wrote:
I saw that Jaedong beat StarDust, so I let out a scream of joy assuming Jaedong went on to win the tournament, only to see he lost in the finals, where I then let out a scream of agony, all in succession.

It kinda' went like this:

"YEEESSSSSUUuuuhhhFUUUCCCCKKKKK"

Grats to Hyun, though! Grats to Goswer too-- It seems like he got overshadowed.


Actually he'd have won it (maybe), if he wasn't the GREEDY player.. I mean we all know that triangle:

AGRESSIVE/CHEESE > GREED > STANDARD > CHEESE, but it was like 90% obvious that he should've played Standard there.. And EVEN after he did the Hatch-first --> 2 more Drones AND GAS before the Pool --> like really ?? What was he thinking that Hyun was doing all that time ?? - drinking Oil or sth ??, I mean come on - he played as if he was playing some scrub from the neighborhood right there.. He clearly underestimated Hyun there..

I was so damn mad.. I didn't even approve AT ALL his tears at the end, in fact he DESERVED them.. He played the series better, I agree, rooted for him like - all the time, but come on.. --> You really just don't do that in a deciding match.. :/

Makes me satisfied though that seems there to be a new Stephano after this one retires though.. I mean - Millenium has always been the awesomest player PRODUCING foreign organization, which they really should get more attention and be studied from..

But yah - was sooooooo damn mad as he should've been to himself instead of crying y know.. It was obvious that he'd not get away with a play like that >(

I mean - to be on the point though: HE DIDN'T GET OVERSHADOWED, HE KICKED OUT OF IT HIMSELF.. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, made me so mad.. >(, :/


Wood leaguers have no right to judge plays


What a dumb thing to say... people who are not professional boxers do comment on performance of guys like Floyd Mayweather, amateur football players discuss how well teams like Barcelona or MU did in their games, couch dwellers share their thoughts on MLB or NHL games. This is a normal thing all over the world.

Somehow on TL every now and then a wild prophet must come up bashing people for doing exactly the same things but in esports context. How disappointing.
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 21 2013 12:32 GMT
#5006
On July 21 2013 18:03 mongmong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 16:30 GunSec wrote:
Jaedong you will win DH winter np!


not happening

Yeah, we all know that HerO is going to win.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
July 21 2013 12:40 GMT
#5007
--- Nuked ---
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
July 21 2013 12:45 GMT
#5008
just wanna say that BOTH two ladies hosted/translated amazingly. best I've seen at any event. comparing to recent MLG, previous Dreamhacks etc. props Smix keep it up.
(>'.')>
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 12:53:24
July 21 2013 12:53 GMT
#5009
Jaedong qualified 3 times for winter didn't he? He's the IM_Mvp of Dreamhack.
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
July 21 2013 12:56 GMT
#5010
On July 21 2013 18:15 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 16:30 GunSec wrote:
Jaedong you will win DH winter np!

Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 18:03 mongmong wrote:
not happening

ASUS ROG @ Assembly Summer?

There is still dreamhack bucharest...I really hope he attends it :D
XupinatoR
Profile Joined July 2011
Spain125 Posts
July 21 2013 14:24 GMT
#5011
I went to the event in Valencia, and even though i'm sad about jaedong loosing again, i was so impressed with the event :O

also, he didnt look very sad in The official party organised by the DH xD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D41Re9_AqL0
Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
July 21 2013 15:36 GMT
#5012
On July 21 2013 21:10 scypio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 19:03 NoNonsense wrote:
On July 21 2013 15:19 VArsovskiSC wrote:
On July 21 2013 12:17 Diaresta wrote:
I saw that Jaedong beat StarDust, so I let out a scream of joy assuming Jaedong went on to win the tournament, only to see he lost in the finals, where I then let out a scream of agony, all in succession.

It kinda' went like this:

"YEEESSSSSUUuuuhhhFUUUCCCCKKKKK"

Grats to Hyun, though! Grats to Goswer too-- It seems like he got overshadowed.


Actually he'd have won it (maybe), if he wasn't the GREEDY player.. I mean we all know that triangle:

AGRESSIVE/CHEESE > GREED > STANDARD > CHEESE, but it was like 90% obvious that he should've played Standard there.. And EVEN after he did the Hatch-first --> 2 more Drones AND GAS before the Pool --> like really ?? What was he thinking that Hyun was doing all that time ?? - drinking Oil or sth ??, I mean come on - he played as if he was playing some scrub from the neighborhood right there.. He clearly underestimated Hyun there..

I was so damn mad.. I didn't even approve AT ALL his tears at the end, in fact he DESERVED them.. He played the series better, I agree, rooted for him like - all the time, but come on.. --> You really just don't do that in a deciding match.. :/

Makes me satisfied though that seems there to be a new Stephano after this one retires though.. I mean - Millenium has always been the awesomest player PRODUCING foreign organization, which they really should get more attention and be studied from..

But yah - was sooooooo damn mad as he should've been to himself instead of crying y know.. It was obvious that he'd not get away with a play like that >(

I mean - to be on the point though: HE DIDN'T GET OVERSHADOWED, HE KICKED OUT OF IT HIMSELF.. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, made me so mad.. >(, :/


Wood leaguers have no right to judge plays


What a dumb thing to say... people who are not professional boxers do comment on performance of guys like Floyd Mayweather, amateur football players discuss how well teams like Barcelona or MU did in their games, couch dwellers share their thoughts on MLB or NHL games. This is a normal thing all over the world.

Somehow on TL every now and then a wild prophet must come up bashing people for doing exactly the same things but in esports context. How disappointing.


To be fair most commentators and analysts in sports media have played their respective sport some what professionally. I can't stand personalities like Skip Bayless, Jackie McMullen, or the many pasty journalism majors on the online media. Their interviews and insights on events are so off base and clueless that it isn't worth reading. On the other hand, reading stuff from retired scouts (Bucky Brooks), Hall of Fame players (Warren Sapp), and retired coaches (Jon Gruden, Ditka) are a real treat.
However, I guess it is in the spirit of TL to be free with ideas and comments, especially since it is an online forum.

The comment that quoted was terribly written, it is funny when people get very upset about a one-liner.
eSports seems to think that they are such a new thing that they don't need to take lessons from and work on becoming more like mainstream sports media. It is backward thinking like yours that keeps the community from being recognized as a real entity, not just a gigantic sinkhole that is being funded by a bratty heiress and nerds without jobs.
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 15:41:41
July 21 2013 15:40 GMT
#5013
On July 21 2013 21:10 scypio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 19:03 NoNonsense wrote:
On July 21 2013 15:19 VArsovskiSC wrote:
On July 21 2013 12:17 Diaresta wrote:
I saw that Jaedong beat StarDust, so I let out a scream of joy assuming Jaedong went on to win the tournament, only to see he lost in the finals, where I then let out a scream of agony, all in succession.

It kinda' went like this:

"YEEESSSSSUUuuuhhhFUUUCCCCKKKKK"

Grats to Hyun, though! Grats to Goswer too-- It seems like he got overshadowed.


Actually he'd have won it (maybe), if he wasn't the GREEDY player.. I mean we all know that triangle:

AGRESSIVE/CHEESE > GREED > STANDARD > CHEESE, but it was like 90% obvious that he should've played Standard there.. And EVEN after he did the Hatch-first --> 2 more Drones AND GAS before the Pool --> like really ?? What was he thinking that Hyun was doing all that time ?? - drinking Oil or sth ??, I mean come on - he played as if he was playing some scrub from the neighborhood right there.. He clearly underestimated Hyun there..

I was so damn mad.. I didn't even approve AT ALL his tears at the end, in fact he DESERVED them.. He played the series better, I agree, rooted for him like - all the time, but come on.. --> You really just don't do that in a deciding match.. :/

Makes me satisfied though that seems there to be a new Stephano after this one retires though.. I mean - Millenium has always been the awesomest player PRODUCING foreign organization, which they really should get more attention and be studied from..

But yah - was sooooooo damn mad as he should've been to himself instead of crying y know.. It was obvious that he'd not get away with a play like that >(

I mean - to be on the point though: HE DIDN'T GET OVERSHADOWED, HE KICKED OUT OF IT HIMSELF.. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, made me so mad.. >(, :/


Wood leaguers have no right to judge plays


What a dumb thing to say... people who are not professional boxers do comment on performance of guys like Floyd Mayweather, amateur football players discuss how well teams like Barcelona or MU did in their games, couch dwellers share their thoughts on MLB or NHL games. This is a normal thing all over the world.

Somehow on TL every now and then a wild prophet must come up bashing people for doing exactly the same things but in esports context. How disappointing.


Everybody can comment on it and think about what the athlete could have done better. Does not mean their opinion is actually true or worth anything.
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
July 21 2013 16:22 GMT
#5014
sad that stardust didnt make it. he is my new protoss hero.
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
July 21 2013 16:38 GMT
#5015
On July 22 2013 00:36 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 21:10 scypio wrote:
On July 21 2013 19:03 NoNonsense wrote:
On July 21 2013 15:19 VArsovskiSC wrote:
On July 21 2013 12:17 Diaresta wrote:
I saw that Jaedong beat StarDust, so I let out a scream of joy assuming Jaedong went on to win the tournament, only to see he lost in the finals, where I then let out a scream of agony, all in succession.

It kinda' went like this:

"YEEESSSSSUUuuuhhhFUUUCCCCKKKKK"

Grats to Hyun, though! Grats to Goswer too-- It seems like he got overshadowed.


Actually he'd have won it (maybe), if he wasn't the GREEDY player.. I mean we all know that triangle:

AGRESSIVE/CHEESE > GREED > STANDARD > CHEESE, but it was like 90% obvious that he should've played Standard there.. And EVEN after he did the Hatch-first --> 2 more Drones AND GAS before the Pool --> like really ?? What was he thinking that Hyun was doing all that time ?? - drinking Oil or sth ??, I mean come on - he played as if he was playing some scrub from the neighborhood right there.. He clearly underestimated Hyun there..

I was so damn mad.. I didn't even approve AT ALL his tears at the end, in fact he DESERVED them.. He played the series better, I agree, rooted for him like - all the time, but come on.. --> You really just don't do that in a deciding match.. :/

Makes me satisfied though that seems there to be a new Stephano after this one retires though.. I mean - Millenium has always been the awesomest player PRODUCING foreign organization, which they really should get more attention and be studied from..

But yah - was sooooooo damn mad as he should've been to himself instead of crying y know.. It was obvious that he'd not get away with a play like that >(

I mean - to be on the point though: HE DIDN'T GET OVERSHADOWED, HE KICKED OUT OF IT HIMSELF.. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, made me so mad.. >(, :/


Wood leaguers have no right to judge plays


What a dumb thing to say... people who are not professional boxers do comment on performance of guys like Floyd Mayweather, amateur football players discuss how well teams like Barcelona or MU did in their games, couch dwellers share their thoughts on MLB or NHL games. This is a normal thing all over the world.

Somehow on TL every now and then a wild prophet must come up bashing people for doing exactly the same things but in esports context. How disappointing.


To be fair most commentators and analysts in sports media have played their respective sport some what professionally. I can't stand personalities like Skip Bayless, Jackie McMullen, or the many pasty journalism majors on the online media. Their interviews and insights on events are so off base and clueless that it isn't worth reading. On the other hand, reading stuff from retired scouts (Bucky Brooks), Hall of Fame players (Warren Sapp), and retired coaches (Jon Gruden, Ditka) are a real treat.
However, I guess it is in the spirit of TL to be free with ideas and comments, especially since it is an online forum.

The comment that quoted was terribly written, it is funny when people get very upset about a one-liner.
eSports seems to think that they are such a new thing that they don't need to take lessons from and work on becoming more like mainstream sports media. It is backward thinking like yours that keeps the community from being recognized as a real entity, not just a gigantic sinkhole that is being funded by a bratty heiress and nerds without jobs.


TL is community website and community is mostly based on scrubs. Yeah, there is quite a few pro-gamer posters here (the Liquid or Acer players for example) but you really shouldn't expect that you will see THEM posting in a LR thread about a tournament they are actually playing in.

A live report thread is more like a pub - you come here, stick around, shout out more or less reasonable things, argue about them and have a good time. The opinions voiced here may or may not be clueless. It alright to ignore them and it is alright to argue with them. Now can you imagine someone walking into an actual pub right after sports event and shout something like "everyone who is not a professional player STFU! You are not allowed to speak about the game."?
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
July 21 2013 16:42 GMT
#5016
On July 22 2013 01:38 scypio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 00:36 Cattlecruiser wrote:
On July 21 2013 21:10 scypio wrote:
On July 21 2013 19:03 NoNonsense wrote:
On July 21 2013 15:19 VArsovskiSC wrote:
On July 21 2013 12:17 Diaresta wrote:
I saw that Jaedong beat StarDust, so I let out a scream of joy assuming Jaedong went on to win the tournament, only to see he lost in the finals, where I then let out a scream of agony, all in succession.

It kinda' went like this:

"YEEESSSSSUUuuuhhhFUUUCCCCKKKKK"

Grats to Hyun, though! Grats to Goswer too-- It seems like he got overshadowed.


Actually he'd have won it (maybe), if he wasn't the GREEDY player.. I mean we all know that triangle:

AGRESSIVE/CHEESE > GREED > STANDARD > CHEESE, but it was like 90% obvious that he should've played Standard there.. And EVEN after he did the Hatch-first --> 2 more Drones AND GAS before the Pool --> like really ?? What was he thinking that Hyun was doing all that time ?? - drinking Oil or sth ??, I mean come on - he played as if he was playing some scrub from the neighborhood right there.. He clearly underestimated Hyun there..

I was so damn mad.. I didn't even approve AT ALL his tears at the end, in fact he DESERVED them.. He played the series better, I agree, rooted for him like - all the time, but come on.. --> You really just don't do that in a deciding match.. :/

Makes me satisfied though that seems there to be a new Stephano after this one retires though.. I mean - Millenium has always been the awesomest player PRODUCING foreign organization, which they really should get more attention and be studied from..

But yah - was sooooooo damn mad as he should've been to himself instead of crying y know.. It was obvious that he'd not get away with a play like that >(

I mean - to be on the point though: HE DIDN'T GET OVERSHADOWED, HE KICKED OUT OF IT HIMSELF.. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, made me so mad.. >(, :/


Wood leaguers have no right to judge plays


What a dumb thing to say... people who are not professional boxers do comment on performance of guys like Floyd Mayweather, amateur football players discuss how well teams like Barcelona or MU did in their games, couch dwellers share their thoughts on MLB or NHL games. This is a normal thing all over the world.

Somehow on TL every now and then a wild prophet must come up bashing people for doing exactly the same things but in esports context. How disappointing.


To be fair most commentators and analysts in sports media have played their respective sport some what professionally. I can't stand personalities like Skip Bayless, Jackie McMullen, or the many pasty journalism majors on the online media. Their interviews and insights on events are so off base and clueless that it isn't worth reading. On the other hand, reading stuff from retired scouts (Bucky Brooks), Hall of Fame players (Warren Sapp), and retired coaches (Jon Gruden, Ditka) are a real treat.
However, I guess it is in the spirit of TL to be free with ideas and comments, especially since it is an online forum.

The comment that quoted was terribly written, it is funny when people get very upset about a one-liner.
eSports seems to think that they are such a new thing that they don't need to take lessons from and work on becoming more like mainstream sports media. It is backward thinking like yours that keeps the community from being recognized as a real entity, not just a gigantic sinkhole that is being funded by a bratty heiress and nerds without jobs.


TL is community website and community is mostly based on scrubs. Yeah, there is quite a few pro-gamer posters here (the Liquid or Acer players for example) but you really shouldn't expect that you will see THEM posting in a LR thread about a tournament they are actually playing in.

A live report thread is more like a pub - you come here, stick around, shout out more or less reasonable things, argue about them and have a good time. The opinions voiced here may or may not be clueless. It alright to ignore them and it is alright to argue with them. Now can you imagine someone walking into an actual pub right after sports event and shout something like "everyone who is not a professional player STFU! You are not allowed to speak about the game."?


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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12406 Posts
July 21 2013 16:48 GMT
#5017
On July 21 2013 18:26 opisska wrote:
It's noteworthy that this performance puits Hyun and JD 17th and 18th in WCS point rankings, almost solely on points based outside WCS. It would be quite fun (albeit unlikely) if the grand finals were won by someone who qualified without really doing anything in the regular WCS


The thing is, basically everyone plays in WCS, so it's hard to conceive of a player that doesn't go far enough in WCS to get significant points, and yet still manages to smash everything else enough that he gets to be top 16 overall
No will to live, no wish to die
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 21 2013 17:04 GMT
#5018
On July 22 2013 01:48 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 18:26 opisska wrote:
It's noteworthy that this performance puits Hyun and JD 17th and 18th in WCS point rankings, almost solely on points based outside WCS. It would be quite fun (albeit unlikely) if the grand finals were won by someone who qualified without really doing anything in the regular WCS


The thing is, basically everyone plays in WCS, so it's hard to conceive of a player that doesn't go far enough in WCS to get significant points, and yet still manages to smash everything else enough that he gets to be top 16 overall

I think it's more that it's a good starting point for someone like HyuN who wont be in premier until season 3 and he'll still have a shot at top 16 since he may be poised to become the top player in the region, or at least top 3 probably
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Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
July 21 2013 17:08 GMT
#5019
On July 22 2013 01:38 scypio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2013 00:36 Cattlecruiser wrote:
On July 21 2013 21:10 scypio wrote:
On July 21 2013 19:03 NoNonsense wrote:
On July 21 2013 15:19 VArsovskiSC wrote:
On July 21 2013 12:17 Diaresta wrote:
I saw that Jaedong beat StarDust, so I let out a scream of joy assuming Jaedong went on to win the tournament, only to see he lost in the finals, where I then let out a scream of agony, all in succession.

It kinda' went like this:

"YEEESSSSSUUuuuhhhFUUUCCCCKKKKK"

Grats to Hyun, though! Grats to Goswer too-- It seems like he got overshadowed.


Actually he'd have won it (maybe), if he wasn't the GREEDY player.. I mean we all know that triangle:

AGRESSIVE/CHEESE > GREED > STANDARD > CHEESE, but it was like 90% obvious that he should've played Standard there.. And EVEN after he did the Hatch-first --> 2 more Drones AND GAS before the Pool --> like really ?? What was he thinking that Hyun was doing all that time ?? - drinking Oil or sth ??, I mean come on - he played as if he was playing some scrub from the neighborhood right there.. He clearly underestimated Hyun there..

I was so damn mad.. I didn't even approve AT ALL his tears at the end, in fact he DESERVED them.. He played the series better, I agree, rooted for him like - all the time, but come on.. --> You really just don't do that in a deciding match.. :/

Makes me satisfied though that seems there to be a new Stephano after this one retires though.. I mean - Millenium has always been the awesomest player PRODUCING foreign organization, which they really should get more attention and be studied from..

But yah - was sooooooo damn mad as he should've been to himself instead of crying y know.. It was obvious that he'd not get away with a play like that >(

I mean - to be on the point though: HE DIDN'T GET OVERSHADOWED, HE KICKED OUT OF IT HIMSELF.. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, made me so mad.. >(, :/


Wood leaguers have no right to judge plays


What a dumb thing to say... people who are not professional boxers do comment on performance of guys like Floyd Mayweather, amateur football players discuss how well teams like Barcelona or MU did in their games, couch dwellers share their thoughts on MLB or NHL games. This is a normal thing all over the world.

Somehow on TL every now and then a wild prophet must come up bashing people for doing exactly the same things but in esports context. How disappointing.


To be fair most commentators and analysts in sports media have played their respective sport some what professionally. I can't stand personalities like Skip Bayless, Jackie McMullen, or the many pasty journalism majors on the online media. Their interviews and insights on events are so off base and clueless that it isn't worth reading. On the other hand, reading stuff from retired scouts (Bucky Brooks), Hall of Fame players (Warren Sapp), and retired coaches (Jon Gruden, Ditka) are a real treat.
However, I guess it is in the spirit of TL to be free with ideas and comments, especially since it is an online forum.

The comment that quoted was terribly written, it is funny when people get very upset about a one-liner.
eSports seems to think that they are such a new thing that they don't need to take lessons from and work on becoming more like mainstream sports media. It is backward thinking like yours that keeps the community from being recognized as a real entity, not just a gigantic sinkhole that is being funded by a bratty heiress and nerds without jobs.


TL is community website and community is mostly based on scrubs. Yeah, there is quite a few pro-gamer posters here (the Liquid or Acer players for example) but you really shouldn't expect that you will see THEM posting in a LR thread about a tournament they are actually playing in.

A live report thread is more like a pub - you come here, stick around, shout out more or less reasonable things, argue about them and have a good time. The opinions voiced here may or may not be clueless. It alright to ignore them and it is alright to argue with them. Now can you imagine someone walking into an actual pub right after sports event and shout something like "everyone who is not a professional player STFU! You are not allowed to speak about the game."?


I understand it is in the spirit of LR to have informed opinions as well as uninformed opinions. Since it is an online forum there is no getting around it. I'm fine with it and expect it.
I completely support that people have the right to discuss it and support things as they wish, it is in the spirit of eSports and especially TL.

Just like in any bar, there are few drunk fucks in a group that tries to set the mood, that believe since their post count is very high or have been in the community the longest believe their opinion is right every time. It is the exact reason why I hate to watch Bowl games or playoff games with loudmouths. Most of the time I watch games with high school buds that played football with me or at least someone that participated in athletic competition to a high enough level to understand the physical scale/dimensions that players have to deal with. It is the same with Starcraft, I don't enjoy watching with people that dabbled with some scrub games trying to claim stupid shit like Marines IMBA, someone played like shit, and someone should've won (especially foreigners).
Gruntt
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Last Edited: 2013-07-21 17:47:02
July 21 2013 17:46 GMT
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IMMA TURN MY MIC UPSIDE DOWN


Sorry, I just couldn't believe how bad that was... lol. Had to turn the stream off right after... haha
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