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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
July 20 2013 11:31 GMT
#861
On July 20 2013 20:30 robson1 wrote:
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On July 20 2013 20:27 liberate71 wrote:
On July 20 2013 20:25 robson1 wrote:
On July 20 2013 20:24 liberate71 wrote:
On July 20 2013 20:23 robson1 wrote:
On July 20 2013 20:22 Waxangel wrote:
yonghwa-mvp should be the final players

i'd skip losira since you used byul already


You really think they play MVP? I don't think he's coming out at all.


He finished top 4 in the Season Finals, he's not 'slumping' - I think he should be a lock for the final 2


He's always been bad in Teamleagues though.

He played a single map this whole season and he dropped it.


I think that's just unlucky rather than 'being bad in team leagues'

It's not as though hes 10-90 in team league matches or anything that really supports it


We'll see. My memory rembers a whole lot of times where IM got burned when they relied on MVP and another bunch of times where they just didn't play him at all.

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0:1 is a 100% lose rate yes, but its also a horrible basis for REAL statistical analysis.

Its like those map stats for Neo Planet S "100% win rate! - whoa shit!.. oh... one game"


Yeah. but they don't play him for a reason.


Most of them are last year and in WOL, playing him today as the ace would be a lot better than Squirtle, Youngwha should come out next imo.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 20 2013 11:31 GMT
#862
On July 20 2013 20:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On July 20 2013 20:29 DJHelium wrote:
Super into DongRaeGu?

could be a coin flip between DRG and Sniper at this point. Sniper all killed Axiom last week but I guess DRG has more experience with the high pressure situation. Both have served as ace before, though. Neither playing spectacularly

I would say Sniper is still a much better choice imo if it comes to it.
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
July 20 2013 11:31 GMT
#863
MVPSwagger for ace!
The Bomber boy
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
July 20 2013 11:31 GMT
#864
On July 20 2013 20:30 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 20:27 liberate71 wrote:
On July 20 2013 20:25 robson1 wrote:
On July 20 2013 20:24 liberate71 wrote:
On July 20 2013 20:23 robson1 wrote:
On July 20 2013 20:22 Waxangel wrote:
yonghwa-mvp should be the final players

i'd skip losira since you used byul already


You really think they play MVP? I don't think he's coming out at all.


He finished top 4 in the Season Finals, he's not 'slumping' - I think he should be a lock for the final 2


He's always been bad in Teamleagues though.

He played a single map this whole season and he dropped it.


I think that's just unlucky rather than 'being bad in team leagues'

It's not as though hes 10-90 in team league matches or anything that really supports it


We'll see. My memory rembers a whole lot of times where IM got burned when they relied on MVP and another bunch of times where they just didn't play him at all.

Show nested quote +
0:1 is a 100% lose rate yes, but its also a horrible basis for REAL statistical analysis.

Its like those map stats for Neo Planet S "100% win rate! - whoa shit!.. oh... one game"


Yeah. but they don't play him for a reason.


Hirai effect is not a rational reason for anyone else on the planet
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24592 Posts
July 20 2013 11:31 GMT
#865
On July 20 2013 20:30 pmp10 wrote:
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On July 20 2013 20:30 Heartland wrote:
Hmm. Does the seeker missile fizzle out if you jump into a bunker or similar when it targets you?

Yup.


Thanks.
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
July 20 2013 11:32 GMT
#866
On July 20 2013 20:31 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 20:30 robson1 wrote:
On July 20 2013 20:27 liberate71 wrote:
On July 20 2013 20:25 robson1 wrote:
On July 20 2013 20:24 liberate71 wrote:
On July 20 2013 20:23 robson1 wrote:
On July 20 2013 20:22 Waxangel wrote:
yonghwa-mvp should be the final players

i'd skip losira since you used byul already


You really think they play MVP? I don't think he's coming out at all.


He finished top 4 in the Season Finals, he's not 'slumping' - I think he should be a lock for the final 2


He's always been bad in Teamleagues though.

He played a single map this whole season and he dropped it.


I think that's just unlucky rather than 'being bad in team leagues'

It's not as though hes 10-90 in team league matches or anything that really supports it


We'll see. My memory rembers a whole lot of times where IM got burned when they relied on MVP and another bunch of times where they just didn't play him at all.

0:1 is a 100% lose rate yes, but its also a horrible basis for REAL statistical analysis.

Its like those map stats for Neo Planet S "100% win rate! - whoa shit!.. oh... one game"


Yeah. but they don't play him for a reason.


Hirai effect is not a rational reason for anyone else on the planet


Well all of his big blunders are like 1 1/2 years ago so...
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
July 20 2013 11:32 GMT
#867
All Dream needs is a good fight.
The curse is real
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 20 2013 11:32 GMT
#868
On July 20 2013 20:31 Wintex wrote:
MVPSwagger for ace!

Yea he beat ZerO so he's probably the best player they have left
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
July 20 2013 11:33 GMT
#869
wow bw army drops
hey man just curious
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
July 20 2013 11:33 GMT
#870
hahaha hellbat drops with blue flame, still pretty amazing for breaking Siege tank postiions
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
scr
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1025 Posts
July 20 2013 11:34 GMT
#871
give me my DRG! if im right Yoda was like the first one who beat DRG into his slump
Try again, fail better.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 20 2013 11:34 GMT
#872
YoDa just seems to be everywhere
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
July 20 2013 11:34 GMT
#873
On July 20 2013 20:33 liberate71 wrote:
hahaha hellbat drops with blue flame, still pretty amazing for breaking Siege tank postiions


Yeah because they are the same good'ol Hellbat
The curse is real
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 20 2013 11:34 GMT
#874
On July 20 2013 20:30 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 20:27 liberate71 wrote:
On July 20 2013 20:25 robson1 wrote:
On July 20 2013 20:24 liberate71 wrote:
On July 20 2013 20:23 robson1 wrote:
On July 20 2013 20:22 Waxangel wrote:
yonghwa-mvp should be the final players

i'd skip losira since you used byul already


You really think they play MVP? I don't think he's coming out at all.


He finished top 4 in the Season Finals, he's not 'slumping' - I think he should be a lock for the final 2


He's always been bad in Teamleagues though.

He played a single map this whole season and he dropped it.


I think that's just unlucky rather than 'being bad in team leagues'

It's not as though hes 10-90 in team league matches or anything that really supports it


We'll see. My memory rembers a whole lot of times where IM got burned when they relied on MVP and another bunch of times where they just didn't play him at all.

Show nested quote +
0:1 is a 100% lose rate yes, but its also a horrible basis for REAL statistical analysis.

Its like those map stats for Neo Planet S "100% win rate! - whoa shit!.. oh... one game"


Yeah. but they don't play him for a reason.

Yeah, I counted last week and Mvp's all time GSTL record is like 10-11 with most of his wins in the first two GSTL seasons.

I don't think it'd be a smart choice to send him out here.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
July 20 2013 11:34 GMT
#875
dream is fighting like a lion, incredible after being soo far behind
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 20 2013 11:34 GMT
#876
That was a pretty decent trade for dream imo lol, the supply difference was reduced.
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
July 20 2013 11:34 GMT
#877
hrmmmm that wasn't too good of a play. Come on Yoda!!
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
July 20 2013 11:35 GMT
#878
Drops are not as good in TvT it seems.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
July 20 2013 11:36 GMT
#879
Too many tanks, not enough hellbats.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
July 20 2013 11:36 GMT
#880
Poll: Recommend Game 5?

yes (12)
 
86%

no (1)
 
7%

if you have time (1)
 
7%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 5?

(Vote): yes
(Vote): no
(Vote): if you have time

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